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Nostalgia 05-21-2006 11:54 PM

I bought MAYH. I actually don't like it too much. I still think Orchid's their best work.

Darkness 05-21-2006 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=SilentScream]I bought MAYH. I actually don't like it too much. I still think Orchid's their best work.[/QUOTE]
MAYH is Opeths "grower" album. Read the lyrics.

gmoneyguy 05-21-2006 11:57 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]MAYH is Opeths "grower" album. Read the lyrics.[/QUOTE]
I used to not like it much, but the more I listened to it the better it got. Songs like Karma, April Ethereal, and Demons of the Fall are all great.

Nostalgia 05-21-2006 11:58 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]MAYH is Opeths "grower" album. Read the lyrics.[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping it'll grow on me

JamJar 05-22-2006 12:47 AM

It's grown on me to become my favourite Opeth album. It's surpassed the oh so amazing Still Life, in terms of my likingness which is not easy to do.

Det_Nosnip 05-22-2006 12:52 AM

[QUOTE=Jude]I don't know if Axenrot is good or not. Det Nosnip seems to hate him though. Why's that?
[/QUOTE]

Because I saw Opeth live and he was boring as hell.

PeEpHoLe_10 05-22-2006 02:32 AM

What do you mean boring?You obviously know more about drumming than i do because your a drummer but he seemed to play the songs pretty perfect to me when i saw them.I know thats got nothing to do with how boring he is/isnt,but,really what more could he have done?

Shadius 05-22-2006 05:37 AM

[QUOTE=SilentScream]I bought MAYH. I actually don't like it too much. I still think Orchid's their best work.[/QUOTE]

It grew on me so, so much.

Just listen on a cold wet, rainy day. Go for a walk.

Walking albums ftw!

Stormrider 05-22-2006 08:00 AM

[QUOTE=Toaster]I bought Orchid, Morningrise, and MAYH for 30.99 each. Damn HMV.[/QUOTE]

Haha, that's what they were all before. Morningrise I got somewhere else...in Florida for 16.99.

Oh, and it was at a HMV yesterday that MAYH was at 24.99. If only I had had more money...

NP Death - Suicide Machine

Neoteric 05-22-2006 11:12 AM

I have fallen asleep to Damnation for several nights now.

JamJar 05-22-2006 11:30 AM

Damnation is so relaxing. It's one of my most played albums. Lopez's playing is damn good on it. :(

Det_Nosnip 05-22-2006 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]What do you mean boring?You obviously know more about drumming than i do because your a drummer but he seemed to play the songs pretty perfect to me when i saw them.I know thats got nothing to do with how boring he is/isnt,but,really what more could he have done?[/QUOTE]

Well, a large part of it has more to do with "how" the notes are played than what notes in particular are played. Axe can perform the metal parts ok, but whenever the soft sections hit, I feel like he was rather lacking. He strikes me as a typical metal drummer - that is, to say, bad. The thing that I liked about Lopez was that he DIDN'T play the songs note for note live - he wasn't afraid to improvise, and was alot less predictable. Granted, it is pretty damn hard to play somebody else's music with the right groove and feeling, but I felt that Gene Hoglan pulled it off perfectly when I saw Opeth at SOTU (and he had ALOT less time to prepare), whereas Axe just feels...mediocre.

gmoneyguy 05-22-2006 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Because I saw Opeth live and he was boring as hell.[/QUOTE]
I honestly payed no attention to him. The funny thing Axenrot was set up in a way its look as if Opeth was trying to hide him from the crowd.

NP: Opeth - Wreath

Darkness 05-22-2006 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Well, a large part of it has more to do with "how" the notes are played than what notes in particular are played. Axe can perform the metal parts ok, but whenever the soft sections hit, I feel like he was rather lacking. He strikes me as a typical metal drummer - that is, to say, bad. The thing that I liked about Lopez was that he DIDN'T play the songs note for note live - he wasn't afraid to improvise, and was alot less predictable. Granted, it is pretty damn hard to play somebody else's music with the right groove and feeling, but I felt that Gene Hoglan pulled it off perfectly when I saw Opeth at SOTU (and he had ALOT less time to prepare), whereas Axe just feels...mediocre.[/QUOTE]
I am worried about the soft parts on later releases with Axe, but I am looking forward to the metal parts being stepped back up to that of Deliverance and Blackwater Park. The heavy parts on GR were rather bland (with a few exceptions ofcourse).

Shattered_Future 05-22-2006 03:14 PM

I kinda felt the same way...even though Opeth live was one of the sweetest things ever, Axe DID seem to be a bit lacking on the songs...he played them perfectly, he just didn't really have a feel to it. He just put the performance in, instead of putting in the performance, mind, body, and soul.

On another note, we're working on covering The Grand Conjuration to play next year at school.

Tyler 05-22-2006 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I kinda felt the same way...even though Opeth live was one of the sweetest things ever, Axe DID seem to be a bit lacking on the songs...he played them perfectly, he just didn't really have a feel to it. He just put the performance in, instead of putting in the performance, mind, body, and soul.

On another note, we're working on covering The Grand Conjuration to play next year at school.[/QUOTE]
He might become more passionate, hopefully.

Good luck with the cover.

Toaster 05-22-2006 03:34 PM

I'm sure part of it is that Axe knew that Lopez had been with the band for many years, and people would be heavily scrutinizing his playing. If he had tried to improvise a bit more or add some different elements, he would have had an easier time of screwing it up, and that would seem much worse to many fans than playing with very little "groove". Once he's in the band for awhile I bet he'll open up in his playing. Mikeal definitely has an ear for soft music, he wouldn't just recruit any metal drummer to play in his band.

Crysiss 05-22-2006 03:53 PM

Great Point^^^

Jude 05-22-2006 05:21 PM

Here's hoping Axe can make up for losing Lopez.

Out of curiosity what made you guys decide to do TGC?

i am the robots 05-22-2006 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=JamJar]It's grown on me to become my favourite Opeth album. It's surpassed the oh so amazing Still Life, in terms of my likingness which is not easy to do.[/QUOTE]

Same here man.

penelope weird hands 05-22-2006 10:31 PM

^ Well said Toaster.

It's no easy task to become passionate playing someone elses music/notes.
I would imagine it to be particularly hard for drummers.

I'm sure Axe will show his diversity for dynamics in Opeth's next release/s, seeing as he will play the parts originally with his own feel, rather than having to constantly try to replicate Lopez' style.

Det_Nosnip 05-23-2006 02:05 AM

True. We'll see.

Darkness 05-25-2006 06:28 PM

Yes, we will...


/bump

ok lateralus 05-25-2006 06:41 PM

This is slightly off topic but does anyone else think the next Opeth album is going to be not so good? Or flat out suck? Dont get me wrong I do highly enjoy 3 or 4 of the songs from Ghost Reveries but it seems like they're going in a certain direction... I don't know. Please no fanboi flames, I'm just expressing an opinion here.

Shattered_Future 05-25-2006 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]Here's hoping Axe can make up for losing Lopez.

[B]Out of curiosity what made you guys decide to do TGC?[/B][/QUOTE]

It's easy. :p

Seriously, that's the reason why. I can't figure out Bleak (which I REALLY want to do) for ****, and plus, this one's hella easy to play and sing at the same time. Plus, even though many of you won't admit it, there ARE some cool riffs in there.

Jude 05-25-2006 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]It's easy. :p

Seriously, that's the reason why. I can't figure out Bleak (which I REALLY want to do) for ****, and plus, this one's hella easy to play and sing at the same time. Plus, even though many of you won't admit it, there ARE some cool riffs in there.[/QUOTE]
Well, there's the main, riff, which is cool, and then that riff that busts out of nowhere and he does the long growl over it....I forget what else...and then that TERRIBLE "whispered conjuration etc" riff...

I assume you aren't doing the whole 10 minutes? What are you cutting out?

OK Lateralus: We'll see. I have no idea. I don't worry about it.

Kaiwaz 05-25-2006 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]This is slightly off topic but does anyone else think the next Opeth album is going to be not so good? Or flat out suck? Dont get me wrong I do highly enjoy 3 or 4 of the songs from Ghost Reveries but it seems like they're going in a certain direction... I don't know. Please no fanboi flames, I'm just expressing an opinion here.[/QUOTE]


I predict Opeth's next album will be better than Ghost Reveries.

ok lateralus 05-25-2006 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I predict Opeth's next album will be better than Ghost Reveries.[/QUOTE]

What leads you to believe that?

Darkness 05-25-2006 07:01 PM

God I hope so. :lol:

Kaiwaz 05-25-2006 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]What leads you to believe that?[/QUOTE]


I think Axe will have a tremendous influence on their new writing technique.

ok lateralus 05-25-2006 07:07 PM

Well, I really hope so. I would be saddened if they wrote an album of Reverie/Harlequin Forest songs.

Shattered_Future 05-25-2006 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]Well, there's the main, riff, which is cool, and then that riff that busts out of nowhere and he does the long growl over it....I forget what else...and then that TERRIBLE "whispered conjuration etc" riff...

I assume you aren't doing the whole 10 minutes? What are you cutting out?

OK Lateralus: We'll see. I have no idea. I don't worry about it.[/QUOTE]

No, it's Opeth as it was meant to be played. No cutting out like the single version...the whole 10 minutes.

Kaiwaz 05-25-2006 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Well, I really hope so. I would be saddened if they wrote an album of Reverie/Harlequin Forest songs.[/QUOTE]



You and me both. I could be wrong, but I don't think Opeth will be going in that direction for their next recording.

Deth 05-25-2006 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I think Axe will have a tremendous influence on their new writing technique.[/QUOTE]
I actually completely disagree with this. I can't think why Mikeal would write differently because there is a different drummer. The songs may turn out differently because of his drumming, but I doubt they'll be written with them in mind. Also, it's not like he'll be writing himself.

i am the robots 05-25-2006 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]You and me both. I could be wrong, but I don't think Opeth will be going in that direction for their next recording.[/QUOTE]

Shame, seeing that harlequin forest is the best song on Ghost Reveries and the only song off the album I really get excited about when I hear it.

Carrionshine 05-25-2006 09:47 PM

I'm shocked at how much people dont like GR on here. I personally loved it at first, got bored of it, then re-discovered it again.It is absolutely amazing.It took me months to finally realize it to this extent.

opethdw 05-25-2006 09:57 PM

Ghost Reveries is such an awesome album. I don't see how anyone could not like it.

Carrionshine 05-25-2006 10:13 PM

It would be much easier for people to like it if looked at it for what it is rather than what it's not.

pate 05-25-2006 10:15 PM

Well put.

Killtacular 05-25-2006 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=opethdw]Ghost Reveries is such an awesome album. I don't see how anyone could not like it.[/QUOTE]
We have higher standards than you.


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