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Jom 02-28-2006 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=dazmo]are u a girl or a guy? :confused:[/QUOTE]

He's bisexual.

Noyana 02-28-2006 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=Ibasslikethis!]I had to break up with James the other day.
I did it because I didnt really have feelings for him, and I was essentailly using him to get over my ex girlfriend.
I thought I did a good thing, but I feel bad about it.[/QUOTE]

You will obviously feel bad about it, but it would be worse to use James to get over your girlfriend.

I tried dating somebody to do that, and all it did was end in a mess for both parties (he was thinking long term college-highschool relationship, i was thinking summer fling)

If you don't have the innate feelings for somebody, you shouldn't be going out with them, and as hard as it is to end it, i think you're better off for it in the long run.

props for recognizing what you were feeling.

man_with_bass 03-01-2006 01:02 AM

ok i need help because i'm feeling like crap. :'(

me and my ex broke up 18 days ago on the 11th of Feb. and it was a mistake i made, because it was that i got frustrated taht she didnt' want to answer my question if she wanted to be together. The reason i asked her was that she sent me a letter saying she didn't have for us anymore. So i asked her as i was walking with her to her class. I asked her about 3 times and all she said was "i want pizza" just trying to get away from the question. I started crying and i asked her twice more. She said the same thing so i said "fine then we're breaking up, it's over". i gave her the necklace she gave me.After that i went to class,advisory period.During those 30 minutes i regretted saying that.I got to her after advisory and told her i regretted what i had said..she said"no no i got to go to class" and she walked away :'(. So all this time i've been asking her if she still loves me and if we would go out in the future.She got fed up with it. The reason she didn't want to go back was that she had family problems cuz her dad got a divorce with his wife(not her mom) around the same time we broke up(her mom and dad are divorced) so i'm thinking it triggered something in her head.That she didn't want a boyfriend right now. So i asked her those two questions constantly..she got really pissed off like 3 days ago.I kept on asking her cuz she wouldn't give me an answer.She did give me an answer though but only once.I've been going pretty crazy at the moment.Yesterday we were fighting and she was saying that i stalk her and it hurts soo bad tthat she thinks i stalk her. She thinks that cuz i always ask what she's doing and she doesn't understand that i'm just curious of what she does.Today i went through her myspace and found a message that she sent her friend yesterday.it said that she only told me she never loved me and she only said it so i wouldn't get hurt. and alot of stuff like i annoy her and i stalk her. she also says that she has another boyfriend...i started crying as soon as i finished reading the message..i was in shock. i let my bro use the computer and me and my bro told three of my friends of my discovery and i called her. She said she had no idea what I was talking about...she said taht she lent her friends her password so they could get in her myspace..and she said that she would never say taht.I told her taht i told our friends about it and she got mad at me for crying and telling my friends of what i found.My three friends said they didn't want to talk to her(except for one). Then word got around to my other two friends.She said that i was jsut trying to ruin her friendship when i didn't want to do that.She's already mad at me cuz i ruined one of her best friendships by accident.She got mad at me and said that she hated me...it really really hurts.She told me that she would talk to me if i got back her friends.I tried and only one of them was going to..and he makes her really happy and he's one of my best friends so he did it after i begged him and told him she didnt' write the message.i'm confused about the thing that she did or didn't write the message...cuz she's lied to her best friend before so i dont' really know what to think.Ever since we broke up i've been feeling worse and worse.I've told my friends i would kill myself but i don't think i would really do it.I told my ex i would if we ever broke up...and she's creeped out by me and i don't know what to do anymore.My friends all tell me to move on although IT'S NOT EASY.I can't let her go and i won't cuz i miss all things we would do.She says that she would probably go out with me again after a year(more or less) because she needs time to get over her dad's divorce.I'm afraid that she might move on and forget about me.She says taht she just wants me as a friend right now...I'm going through heartache right now and i don't know what to do anymore...any advice mxers? i know i'm pretty crazy but still help..or try to :'(

Steerpike 03-01-2006 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=man_with_bass]I asked her about 3 times[/quote]

Mistake #1

Never, never do something like that. You cannot badger an answer out of her. It'll only piss her off.

[quote]I started crying and i asked her twice more.[/quote]

Mistake #2

You [i]should[/i] be in control of your own emotions enough that you don't do something like this. That kind of behaivor is expected from a child.

[quote]She said the same thing so i said "fine then we're breaking up, it's over".[/quote]

Mistake #3

Overreacting. Again with controlling the emotions.

[quote]So all this time i've been asking her if she still loves me and if we would go out in the future.[/quote]

Mistake #4

Still badgering her.

[quote]So i asked her those two questions constantly..she got really pissed off like 3 days ago.I kept on asking her cuz she wouldn't give me an answer.[/quote]

Mistake #5

Do I really need to say it?

[quote]Yesterday we were fighting and she was saying that i stalk her and it hurts soo bad tthat she thinks i stalk her. She thinks that cuz i always ask what she's doing and she doesn't understand that i'm just curious of what she does.[/quote]

Mistake #6

Yes, you are stalking her. This is absurd.

[quote]Today i went through her myspace and found a message that she sent her friend yesterday.it said that she only told me she never loved me and she only said it so i wouldn't get hurt. and alot of stuff like i annoy her and i stalk her. she also says that she has another boyfriend...i started crying as soon as i finished reading the message..i was in shock. i let my bro use the computer and me and my bro told three of my friends of my discovery and i called her.[/quote]

Mistake #7

F[size=2]u[/size]ck MySpace for one thing. For another, you handled the situation poorly. You sought validation from other people.

[quote]I told her taht i told our friends about it and she got mad at me for crying and telling my friends of what i found.[/quote]

Mistake #8

Stop being such a doormat! This woman is not going to make or break you.

[quote]She told me that she would talk to me if i got back her friends.I tried and only one of them was going to..and he makes her really happy and he's one of my best friends so he did it after i begged him and told him she didnt' write the message.[/quote]

Mistake #9

Don't sacrifice your dignity like that.

[quote]I told my ex i would if we ever broke up...and she's creeped out by me and i don't know what to do anymore.[/quote]

Mistake #10

What?! Duh, she's gonna be creeped out. What possessed you to say that?

[quote]My friends all tell me to move on although IT'S NOT EASY.I can't let her go and i won't cuz i miss all things we would do.[/quote]

Mistake #11

Stop trying to justify your actions and listen to your friends.

[quote]any advice mxers? i know i'm pretty crazy but still help..or try to :'([/QUOTE]

I apologize for being blunt with you, but you really need some tough love. This kind of behavior is repellent, not just to women, but people in general. You're sacrificing your dignity, self-control, and self-respect for a girl. No one should do that to themselves, it's absurd.

Before you even think about getting back together with her, or dating any other girl for that matter, you need to work on yourself severely. I cant' believe some of the stuff I'm reading here. You're ruining yourself mentally and emotionally.

I'll help you, but first you need to need to look right in the mirror and promise yourself to haul yourself up by the bootstraps and affect change in your own life instead of somebody else's.

dazmo 03-01-2006 03:15 AM

[QUOTE=man_with_bass]ok i need help because i'm feeling like crap. :'(

me and my ex broke up 18 days ago on the 11th of Feb. and it was a mistake i made, because it was that i got frustrated taht she didnt' want to answer my question if she wanted to be together. The reason i asked her was that she sent me a letter saying she didn't have for us anymore. So i asked her as i was walking with her to her class. I asked her about 3 times and all she said was "i want pizza" just trying to get away from the question. I started crying and i asked her twice more. She said the same thing so i said "fine then we're breaking up, it's over". i gave her the necklace she gave me.After that i went to class,advisory period.During those 30 minutes i regretted saying that.I got to her after advisory and told her i regretted what i had said..she said"no no i got to go to class" and she walked away :'(. So all this time i've been asking her if she still loves me and if we would go out in the future.She got fed up with it. The reason she didn't want to go back was that she had family problems cuz her dad got a divorce with his wife(not her mom) around the same time we broke up(her mom and dad are divorced) so i'm thinking it triggered something in her head.That she didn't want a boyfriend right now. So i asked her those two questions constantly..she got really pissed off like 3 days ago.I kept on asking her cuz she wouldn't give me an answer.She did give me an answer though but only once.I've been going pretty crazy at the moment.Yesterday we were fighting and she was saying that i stalk her and it hurts soo bad tthat she thinks i stalk her. She thinks that cuz i always ask what she's doing and she doesn't understand that i'm just curious of what she does.Today i went through her myspace and found a message that she sent her friend yesterday.it said that she only told me she never loved me and she only said it so i wouldn't get hurt. and alot of stuff like i annoy her and i stalk her. she also says that she has another boyfriend...i started crying as soon as i finished reading the message..i was in shock. i let my bro use the computer and me and my bro told three of my friends of my discovery and i called her. She said she had no idea what I was talking about...she said taht she lent her friends her password so they could get in her myspace..and she said that she would never say taht.I told her taht i told our friends about it and she got mad at me for crying and telling my friends of what i found.My three friends said they didn't want to talk to her(except for one). Then word got around to my other two friends.She said that i was jsut trying to ruin her friendship when i didn't want to do that.She's already mad at me cuz i ruined one of her best friendships by accident.She got mad at me and said that she hated me...it really really hurts.She told me that she would talk to me if i got back her friends.I tried and only one of them was going to..and he makes her really happy and he's one of my best friends so he did it after i begged him and told him she didnt' write the message.i'm confused about the thing that she did or didn't write the message...cuz she's lied to her best friend before so i dont' really know what to think.Ever since we broke up i've been feeling worse and worse.I've told my friends i would kill myself but i don't think i would really do it.I told my ex i would if we ever broke up...and she's creeped out by me and i don't know what to do anymore.My friends all tell me to move on although IT'S NOT EASY.I can't let her go and i won't cuz i miss all things we would do.She says that she would probably go out with me again after a year(more or less) because she needs time to get over her dad's divorce.I'm afraid that she might move on and forget about me.She says taht she just wants me as a friend right now...I'm going through heartache right now and i don't know what to do anymore...any advice mxers? i know i'm pretty crazy but still help..or try to :'([/QUOTE]

Dude, no. This is like the flipside of my situation. i like a girl, but so does this emo and hes madly in love with her, and he'll kill himself if she doesnt go out with him. Do you think saying that is going to make her fall for you? i mean wtf?!?!?! That is a stupid thing to say, and it never helps, it only hurts people. you are obsessing over her, and it is not cool. i know you may like her a lot, so do wats best for HER and give her some space. If not, you are only in the relationship for yourself


Sorry for being brutal, but u gotta wake up, man

Steerpike 03-01-2006 03:21 AM

[QUOTE=dazmo]Dude, no. This is like the flipside of my situation. i like a girl, but so does this emo and hes madly in love with her, and he'll kill himself if she doesnt go out with him. Do you think saying that is going to make her fall for you? i mean wtf?!?!?! That is a stupid thing to say, and it never helps, it only hurts people. you are obsessing over her, and it is not cool. i know you may like her a lot, so do wats best for HER and give her some space. If not, you are only in the relationship for yourself


Sorry for being brutal, but u gotta wake up, man[/QUOTE]

Like I said above, this is a case that requires some tough love.

What kills me is that this sort of behavior is so painfully obvious in its counterproductivity, but every day someone else falls for it.

Jom 03-01-2006 07:20 AM

Agreed with the other two guys.

Let me say from current personal experience that while it's tough initially to wait for an answer, if she never gets around to answering you, it's much easier to just move on and forget about everything, because that's just the path life takes you.

You can't interrogate her, or pester her, or repeatedly ask questions. You ask it one time, and that's it.

Some people can make decisions faster than others, while some take awhile to get their thought processes in order, while some won't even answer the question at all.

In any scenario, you have to prepare yourself for whatever comes at you.

Crying, stalking, pestering, and overall NOT keeping your emotions in check is definitely not the way to go.

Loch Tess Monster 03-01-2006 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=man_with_bass]ok i need help because i'm feeling like crap. :'(

me and my ex broke up 18 days ago on the 11th of Feb. and it was a mistake i made, because it was that i got frustrated taht she didnt' want to answer my question if she wanted to be together. The reason i asked her was that she sent me a letter saying she didn't have for us anymore. So i asked her as i was walking with her to her class. I asked her about 3 times and all she said was "i want pizza" just trying to get away from the question. I started crying and i asked her twice more. She said the same thing so i said "fine then we're breaking up, it's over". i gave her the necklace she gave me.After that i went to class,advisory period.During those 30 minutes i regretted saying that.I got to her after advisory and told her i regretted what i had said..she said"no no i got to go to class" and she walked away :'(. So all this time i've been asking her if she still loves me and if we would go out in the future.She got fed up with it. The reason she didn't want to go back was that she had family problems cuz her dad got a divorce with his wife(not her mom) around the same time we broke up(her mom and dad are divorced) so i'm thinking it triggered something in her head.That she didn't want a boyfriend right now. So i asked her those two questions constantly..she got really pissed off like 3 days ago.I kept on asking her cuz she wouldn't give me an answer.She did give me an answer though but only once.I've been going pretty crazy at the moment.Yesterday we were fighting and she was saying that i stalk her and it hurts soo bad tthat she thinks i stalk her. She thinks that cuz i always ask what she's doing and she doesn't understand that i'm just curious of what she does.Today i went through her myspace and found a message that she sent her friend yesterday.it said that she only told me she never loved me and she only said it so i wouldn't get hurt. and alot of stuff like i annoy her and i stalk her. she also says that she has another boyfriend...i started crying as soon as i finished reading the message..i was in shock. i let my bro use the computer and me and my bro told three of my friends of my discovery and i called her. She said she had no idea what I was talking about...she said taht she lent her friends her password so they could get in her myspace..and she said that she would never say taht.I told her taht i told our friends about it and she got mad at me for crying and telling my friends of what i found.My three friends said they didn't want to talk to her(except for one). Then word got around to my other two friends.She said that i was jsut trying to ruin her friendship when i didn't want to do that.She's already mad at me cuz i ruined one of her best friendships by accident.She got mad at me and said that she hated me...it really really hurts.She told me that she would talk to me if i got back her friends.I tried and only one of them was going to..and he makes her really happy and he's one of my best friends so he did it after i begged him and told him she didnt' write the message.i'm confused about the thing that she did or didn't write the message...cuz she's lied to her best friend before so i dont' really know what to think.Ever since we broke up i've been feeling worse and worse.I've told my friends i would kill myself but i don't think i would really do it.I told my ex i would if we ever broke up...and she's creeped out by me and i don't know what to do anymore.My friends all tell me to move on although IT'S NOT EASY.I can't let her go and i won't cuz i miss all things we would do.She says that she would probably go out with me again after a year(more or less) because she needs time to get over her dad's divorce.I'm afraid that she might move on and forget about me.She says taht she just wants me as a friend right now...I'm going through heartache right now and i don't know what to do anymore...any advice mxers? i know i'm pretty crazy but still help..or try to :'([/QUOTE]
What the hell are you doing, man? Give her some space. No wonder she thinks you're stalking her - you are. You signed onto her myspace? What the hell? She's going through a tough time with her home life, then you break up with her, then you start stalking her. That's a lot to deal with emotionally. It's probably gonna be a bitch but you have to just give her some room and [i]try[/i] to get over her during that time.

That's all I have to say, and quite frankly, I'm still shocked that you thought her myspace was important enough to log into and spy around.

Special Brew 03-01-2006 08:32 AM

The situation is completely out of control, and really, you've ruined any chances you have with this girl. Just stop, and forget about her. Hang out with friends or whatever it is you used to do before you met her. No girl is that important or worth that much frustration. Don't tell people you're going to kill yourself, that's just a way of begging for attention.

You [I]are[/I] stalking her. Stop it. Just leave her alone. I know it's hard, but you have to force yourself to forget her. Keep reminding yourself that she's worthless and not worth your time. If she ended it that quickly, and apparently without remorse, then she has no interest in you, nor did she ever [I]really [/I]love you. Acting this way is going to turn her off. Girls don't like obsessive guys, usually. You have to take control and make her come to you, not the other way around, if you are really wanting her back. Flirt aroudn with some other girls and see if she gets jealous. That often works... lol.

EinzingerIsGod 03-01-2006 01:10 PM

To man_with_bass:

You're treating this situation like a 12 year old. And you may be 12. But when it comes to relationships you have to be a little more mature than that. And as much as you like this girl you need to realize that chances are this isn't the person that you'll be spending the rest of your life with. There will be more girls for you and more guys for her. Either give her space and try to fix things down the line or move on and find someone else. You can't expect this girl cater to your every need, especially if she is going through an emotionally difficult time. Not to be blunt, but you need to grow up man.

AtomShip 03-01-2006 03:16 PM

I cant get over this girl, shes been all I've persued for three months and she keeps leading me on than putting me down. It's not that shes a horrible selfcentered person its just shes been sheltered her whole life and every guy seems to have a crush on her and she has a really flirtatous personallity. She says I'm her best friend and closer to her than practically all her girl friends and she says I'm the only guy that treats her different etc and respects her etc... She knows my feelings for her and that I love her and than she said she loved me and wanted to be with me and than the next day she says she changed her mind and didnt want to be more than just best friends.

I mean c'mon this sucks guys and I dont know what to do anymore cause I have really strong feelings for her but she doesnt want a boyfriend now and it just is bad. She also has a rep for playing with guys and I think I just got played...

I'm majorly just venting here but any advice is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

Chaindrive 03-01-2006 03:17 PM

Move on. She's not worth the hassle.

Chrysostom 03-01-2006 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]She also has a rep for playing with guys and I think I just got played...[/QUOTE]

That tells you all you need to know. Leave her well alone. You'll get over her eventually.

EinzingerIsGod 03-01-2006 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]I mean c'mon this sucks guys and I dont know what to do anymore cause I have really strong feelings for her but she doesnt want a boyfriend now and it just is bad. She also has a rep for playing with guys and I think I just got played...[/QUOTE]

This doesn't sound like something worth going for. She'll most likely continually let you down. Your best bet is to just remain friends with her but move on and look for another girl for a relationship.

Steerpike 03-01-2006 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]shes been all I've persued for three months[/quote]

Ouch. Right from the moment I read this part, I knew it was going to be bad.

[quote]and she keeps leading me on than putting me down. It's not that shes a horrible selfcentered person its just shes been sheltered her whole life and every guy seems to have a crush on her and she has a really flirtatous personallity. She says I'm her best friend and closer to her than practically all her girl friends and she says I'm the only guy that treats her different etc and respects her etc... She knows my feelings for her and that I love her and than she said she loved me and wanted to be with me and than the next day she says she changed her mind and didnt want to be more than just best friends.

I mean c'mon this sucks guys and I dont know what to do anymore cause I have really strong feelings for her but she doesnt want a boyfriend now and it just is bad. She also has a rep for playing with guys and I think I just got played...

I'm majorly just venting here but any advice is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

And I was right.

If you want women to date you, stop acting like one of their girlfriends. Contrary to most male fantasies, women don't get together to make out with each other. Acting like a girl around her is not going to make her want to be with you. Start being an alpha male.

Start flirting with other women. You'll get over it.

I Am a Hat 03-01-2006 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]....[/QUOTE]
hey is doing what you've been doing working to attract her

no

so stop doing it

she can have anyone she wants. she doesn't want someone who chases her and throws himself at her.

BE DIFFERENT than other guys

Chaindrive 03-01-2006 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]If you want women to date you, stop acting like one of their girlfriends.[/QUOTE]


This has got to be some of the best advice I've seen in here.

Acting like one of their girlfriends puts you squarely in the "friends only" category. Never to escape.

Tillius 03-01-2006 04:44 PM

I hate the "friends only" category when you're really pursuing somebody. It's such a bitch to hear.
"You're a great friend, but I think that's as far as it should go."
:upset:

AtomShip 03-01-2006 04:47 PM

No you got me all wrong, I'm not a little girl around her, like shes come to me to talk to not the other way around and what I've been doing HAS been different than every other guy. They all want to get with her and she doesnt want to get with anyone unless she really 100% likes them. I think she doesnt want to date me for the fear of losing my friendship cause she likes the support I give her, so I'm gonna take your advice and distance her from me and maybe she'll get mad and come after me? I been going after her for too long its time for her to make the next move. so cheers guys and thanks.

[QUOTE=Tillius]I hate the "friends only" category when you're really pursuing somebody. It's such a bitch to hear.
"You're a great friend, but I think that's as far as it should go."
:upset:[/QUOTE]

YEAH I know!. Over the weekend she was like all in love with me and I was "all she could think about" than monday she was like "well I thought it over and I was just 'caught in the moment' and I like you only as a best friend" I was like c'mon can you make it more obvious that your a psycho bitch who just walks all over guys?!

I'm just p.o'd.

I Am a Hat 03-01-2006 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]YEAH I know!. Over the weekend she was like all in love with me and I was "all she could think about" [/QUOTE]
next time she's like that tell her you only like her as a friend

Tillius 03-01-2006 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]YEAH I know!. Over the weekend she was like all in love with me and I was "all she could think about" than monday she was like "well I thought it over and I was just 'caught in the moment' and I like you only as a best friend" I was like c'mon can you make it more obvious that your a psycho bitch who just walks all over guys?!

I'm just p.o'd.[/QUOTE]
That's a bitch, but that's girls for ya. They love to play with guys' heads.

Steerpike 03-01-2006 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=AtomShip]YEAH I know!. Over the weekend she was like all in love with me and I was "all she could think about" than monday she was like "well I thought it over and I was just 'caught in the moment' and I like you only as a best friend" I was like c'mon can you make it more obvious that your a psycho bitch who just walks all over guys?!

I'm just p.o'd.[/QUOTE]

Caught in the moment. That's a new one.

Anyway, you've been pursuing her for three months. [i]Don't do that[/i]. Never pursue. Get her attention and make her come to you.

AtomShip 03-01-2006 05:03 PM

mhm I'm so naive haha. Well I'm feeling better cause I realize that its not that she doesnt like me its that she doesnt want a boyfriend (shes been through quite a few int he past year). And this guy who hates me she did the same thing to that she did to me and I noticed that we're both too cocky and testosterone driven to realize that she doesnt want a guy now and we were better off just playin it cool all along.

Steerpike 03-01-2006 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]That's a bitch, but that's girls for ya. They love to play with guys' heads.[/QUOTE]

They only play mindgames because it gives them an edge. Because guys aren't naturally inclined to play those games. It's not the fault of women, it's the fault of men for not endeavoring to level the playing field.

Tillius 03-01-2006 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]They only play mindgames because it gives them an edge. Because guys aren't naturally inclined to play those games. It's not the fault of women, it's the fault of men for not endeavoring to level the playing field.[/QUOTE]
True true.
As men, we can be idiots quite often.


BTW, I tried that trick you told me and failed miserably. :lol:

man_with_bass 03-01-2006 05:57 PM

Well hello again and i had a change of mind ever since yesterday...the reason for this is because of you guys and my friend rey. Well he helped me think about some stuff.I made a decision today in the morning as i woke up...that i would be her friend as long as she wanted to be my friend...seeing as i've ****ed up her other friendships...I feel bad and i really want to do something to make her feel happy...well since we don't have each other in classes, we saw each other in breaking periods...and I forgot that we broke up and the pain i had during those 2-4 minutes that i spent with her, we were playing around...but i'm gonna try and stop badgering her...it's worthless...i still love her...i told her i still did...and maybe that's a bad thing but i still do...and i don't know, should i call her or shouldn't i? i just don't want to forget about her.I want to make her as happy as I can since i've ****ed up so much for her.I still want her in my life...is this a good thing i'm doing? It makes me hurt but i think she really needs a friend right now...any advice on what i'm doing wrong?

Aakon_Keetreh 03-01-2006 06:10 PM

My mind is pissing me off.

Im keeping thinking my gf doesnt like me for some stupid random reasons that i dont even know are. My mind is making me mad.

Is this like a symptom or something. Or is my mind just f[B]u[/B]cking with me.

Tillius 03-01-2006 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=Destined_for]My mind is pissing me off.

Im keeping thinking my gf doesnt like me for some stupid random reasons that i dont even know are. My mind is making me mad.

Is this like a symptom or something. Or is my mind just f[B]u[/B]cking with me.[/QUOTE]
Are there ANY reasons you could tell us for these feelings?

Aakon_Keetreh 03-01-2006 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]Are there ANY reasons you could tell us for these feelings?[/QUOTE]


Well im always paranoid about everything.
I guess i really dont trust anybody.
But i do trust the girl im with.
Were perfect for each other
I just think that just randomly she wont like me.

EDIT: I know its all in my mind. Do i have a disorder or something?

Chaindrive 03-01-2006 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=man_with_bass]Well hello again and i had a change of mind ever since yesterday...the reason for this is because of you guys and my friend rey. Well he helped me think about some stuff.I made a decision today in the morning as i woke up...that i would be her friend as long as she wanted to be my friend...seeing as i've ****ed up her other friendships...I feel bad and i really want to do something to make her feel happy...well since we don't have each other in classes, we saw each other in breaking periods...and I forgot that we broke up and the pain i had during those 2-4 minutes that i spent with her, we were playing around...but i'm gonna try and stop badgering her...it's worthless...i still love her...i told her i still did...and maybe that's a bad thing but i still do...and i don't know, should i call her or shouldn't i? i just don't want to forget about her.I want to make her as happy as I can since i've ****ed up so much for her.I still want her in my life...is this a good thing i'm doing? It makes me hurt but i think she really needs a friend right now...any advice on what i'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]

What exactly did you do to screw up her other friendships?

Tillius 03-01-2006 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Well im always paranoid about everything.
I guess i really dont trust anybody.
But i do trust the girl im with.
Were perfect for each other
I just think that just randomly she wont like me.[/QUOTE]
Well, that's normal for a lot of guys. Maybe you just have a hint of jealousy issues, and yes, paranoia. If it ever gets so bad that you truly without a doubt believe that she feels like this, then talk to her about it.

/hates your avatar

EDIT: No, it's not a disorder.

Aakon_Keetreh 03-01-2006 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]Well, that's normal for a lot of guys. Maybe you just have a hint of jealousy issues, and yes, paranoia. If it ever gets so bad that you truly without a doubt believe that she feels like this, then talk to her about it.

/hates your avatar

EDIT: No, it's not a disorder.[/QUOTE]


Okay. What are somethings that she would do to show me that she doesnt like me anymore? Like actions or something. Or when i talk to her on the phone. Im just so paranoid about everything.

Tillius 03-01-2006 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Okay. What are somethings that she would do to show me that she doesnt like me anymore? Like actions.[/QUOTE]
Well, when you try to kiss her, she may turn away a little. Or, if you do kiss her, it may, how do I best say this, [I]feel different.[/I] Or, if you're going in to kiss her, she may have a weird expression before doing it.
Also, if she seems to avoid you a bit in the hallways or anything, that may be a good sign.
Also, try to take note on how she talks to you. If she talks differently or acts weird, then that's obviously a sign.

Aakon_Keetreh 03-01-2006 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]Well, when you try to kiss her, she may turn away a little. Or, if you do kiss her, it may, how do I best say this, [I]feel different.[/I] Or, if you're going in to kiss her, she may have a weird expression before doing it.
Also, if she seems to avoid you a bit in the hallways or anything, that may be a good sign.
Also, try to take note on how she talks to you. If she talks differently or acts weird, then that's obviously a sign.[/QUOTE]


Well she doesnt go to my school. When i talk to her would i notice anything. But the thing is that she loves me a lot. a lot a lot. I just have hard time stopping my mind from wondering.

EDIT: And were like perfect for each other. And we are always so sweet to each other and all that good stuff.

Tillius 03-01-2006 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Well she doesnt go to my school. When i talk to her would i notice anything. But the thing is that she loves me a lot. a lot a lot. I just have hard time stopping my mind from wondering.[/QUOTE]
Well then, I'm sure it's just you're subconcious mind playing tricks on you.

mmfan486 03-01-2006 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=man_with_bass]Well hello again and i had a change of mind ever since yesterday...the reason for this is because of you guys and my friend rey. Well he helped me think about some stuff.I made a decision today in the morning as i woke up...that i would be her friend as long as she wanted to be my friend...seeing as i've ****ed up her other friendships...I feel bad and i really want to do something to make her feel happy...well since we don't have each other in classes, we saw each other in breaking periods...and I forgot that we broke up and the pain i had during those 2-4 minutes that i spent with her, we were playing around...but i'm gonna try and stop badgering her...it's worthless...i still love her...i told her i still did...and maybe that's a bad thing but i still do...and i don't know, should i call her or shouldn't i? i just don't want to forget about her.I want to make her as happy as I can since i've ****ed up so much for her.I still want her in my life...is this a good thing i'm doing? It makes me hurt but i think she really needs a friend right now...any advice on what i'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]
OK chap... this is what you need to do, having read both your posts.

Firstly, you need to figure out which way round the letters go in "that." It was really irritating trying to read that post at the top of the page. Next, learn about paragraphs. Formal for a message board, sure, but you have no idea how easier your posts would be to read if you broke them up a little bit.

Now, this is going to hurt, but I need to tell you this: Stay away from her. If she's freaked out by you, then calling her, talking to her, or in any way trying to contact her through myspace or anything like that is only going to make matters worse. Whether you love her or not... well you've told her now, and she knows it. She probably won't forget any of this. See where I'm going? THERE IS NO NEED TO TELL HER AGAIN!!!

Honestly I think things have got bad enough to the extent that it's not worth having her in your life, and it's not worth her having you in hers. She needs... ok I'm going to go all insensitive again but this is the truth. You say you want to be her friend and make her as happy as you can, and the fact of the matter is that she doesn't need you right now. She needs a friend who's slightly less ****ed up, (It's not your fault you're ****ed up, it just happened that way because of the break-up,) because this can't be easy for her either and she needs to talk to someone with a clear head. In fact I'm half expecting to see a post from her on this very thread any minute now.

The danger, of course, is this: If you completely shun contact with her, bridges will be burned and will be very hard to repair. If you let her go now, it's unlikely that you'll ever go out again or even be friends again. This has happened to me, though on a less dramatic scale. You might not speak to her again. But from the way things are looking right about now, that may be the better option.

You've totally screwed this up man, and I say that with sympathy rather than spite. It's not going to be easy to recover from this, like you said. But whatever you do, don't go making matters worse. Niether of you needs it right now.

Post back in about a week and tell us how you're getting on.

Aakon_Keetreh 03-01-2006 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Tillius]Well then, I'm sure it's just you're subconcious mind playing tricks on you.[/QUOTE]


It really is. Thats why im wondering if its a disorder.

Here is something i wrote for her and its a poem, here is what she wrote.

I wrote: I am so in love with you.
I would do anything to make you happy
I would do anyting so you would not feel one drop of sadness
Your the most beatuiful girl ever. No exceptions.
I love you with all my heart and all my soul.
Your The best Thing that has ever happened to me.
Your everything i ever dreamed about and wanted in a girl.
I cant stop thinking about you baby.
I just love you so much.
And i want to be with you forever.
I just Love you so much!
You make me feel like the happest guy ever.
I want to hold you and never let go.
I will always be here for you, in times of good and bad.
I love you so damn much.
You have the coolest personality ever. Hands down.
You are my love.
And i love you with all my heart.
Forever

I wrote this poem about you.

I just love you so much.

She wrote: babe your so ****in cute i love you so damn much!

I wrote: And i really mean all the things i said in the poem.
I love you so much.
So ****ing much.
You have no clue how much i love and care about you.
I would do anything for you.
I love u so so so so so so so so so so so so Much!!!!!!
And hopefully we can hang out this weekend cuz i really want to see you so bad!
I love you with all my heart!
Have a good day babe!
Muah!


She wrote: babe your soo cute!
I wouldnt trade you for the world!
your amazing!!
I love you soooooo much!
yeah i really hope i get to see you this weekend too.
I LOVEYOU I LOVEYOU I LOVEYOU


I know that this is no reason to be paranoid.
My mind is just playing tricks on me.

man_with_bass 03-01-2006 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]What exactly did you do to screw up her other friendships?[/QUOTE]

well there was this message that someone wrote to a friend of hers about me(i say someone because i kinda believe taht she didn't write it but i didn't know this at the time) on her myspace.Well it ended up making me feel the worst i've ever felt in my life...and soon enough i started telling our friends about it.I showed them the message and they started to say stuff like "how could she do this?".so they said they weren't gonna talk to her anymore. i called her and she said she didn't write it and i believed her...i only got to tell two of my friends she didn't write it.One of them was important to her because he made her feel happy.He said that he didn't wanna talk to her...i told him to talk to her cuz i wanted her to be happy...i told him to do it for me...taht was yesterday.well today he didn't really talk to her that much and the other friends ignored her so i could kinda tell she was feeling bad..i felt bad for waht i did..What sucks is that word got spread around to my other friends and they don't want to talk to her...so i feel like it's all my fault for doing what i did..i wanna make things better...

mmfan486 03-01-2006 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=man_with_bass]well there was this message that someone wrote to a friend of hers about me(i say someone because i kinda believe taht she didn't write it but i didn't know this at the time) on her myspace.Well it ended up making me feel the worst i've ever felt in my life...and soon enough i started telling our friends about it.I showed them the message and they started to say stuff like "how could she do this?".so they said they weren't gonna talk to her anymore. i called her and she said she didn't write it and i believed her...i only got to tell two of my friends she didn't write it.One of them was important to her because he made her feel happy.He said that he didn't wanna talk to her...i told him to talk to her cuz i wanted her to be happy...i told him to do it for me...taht was yesterday.well today he didn't really talk to her that much and the other friends ignored her so i could kinda tell she was feeling bad..i felt bad for waht i did..What sucks is that word got spread around to my other friends and they don't want to talk to her...so i feel like it's all my fault for doing what i did..i wanna make things better...[/QUOTE]
To summarise my last post in 2 sentences:

Don't try to make things better. You'll only make them worse.

Tillius 03-01-2006 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Destined_for]It really is. Thats why im wondering if its a disorder.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it.
Many guys have this kinda paranoia about their girls.


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