yeah your right , but Jones was a great bandleader who had great songwriting abilities. Mick was the tunesmith while Joe was mostly the heart and soul of the music that the clash made , a true rock rebel

I think the combination of Mick , Joe , Paul and Topper was magical and one in a million. Mick brought great musicianship and songcrafting , Joe brought his passion and heart to it , Paul brought diversity to the music because of his upbringings in brixton , Topper brought musicianship and diversity and precision to the table as well.

The sum of the Clash was much greater than the value of its parts.

without any of them the Clash would not be Clash , that definently includes Paul and Topper.

I wouldn't argue that Topper was an integral part of the group but he didn't play on 'The Clash' and that's a great album.


Oh, and someone claimed that Terry Chimes was one of the three guys who joined Joe and Paul on Cut The Crap and actually it they were Nick Sheppard, Vince White, and Pete Howard. Chimes was just a stand-in when Topper quit/was sacked.

[QUOTE=White Riot!]yeah your right , but Jones was a great bandleader who had great songwriting abilities. Mick was the tunesmith while Joe was mostly the heart and soul of the music that the clash made , a true rock rebel

I think the combination of Mick , Joe , Paul and Topper was magical and one in a million. Mick brought great musicianship and songcrafting , Joe brought his passion and heart to it , Paul brought diversity to the music because of his upbringings in brixton , Topper brought musicianship and diversity and precision to the table as well.

The sum of the Clash was much greater than the value of its parts.

without any of them the Clash would not be Clash , that definently includes Paul and Topper.[/QUOTE]

your very right...i mean without paul the clash would have little or no reggae influnce..which was a major part of the band

[QUOTE]The sum of the Clash was much greater than the value of its parts.[/QUOTE]

Right on, man.

And Paul was definetly a huge part of the Clash. On the first album his basslines were the only thing holding the music together, and like Travis said, gave them the reggae influence. And without Topper we wouldn't have Rock the Casbah or Revolution Rock for sure. And as far as drummiing abilities go, Topper>Chimes.

i didnt know topper wrote revolution rock

I don't think he wrote the words, just the music. And the percussion in that song is great.

That entire song is great. Why does no one talk about it much?

It was my favourite clash song at first

I think it might be the Clash's longest song. But agreed, its an amazing song, and I liked the laid back feel of it.

topper is preety good..i aboustly love the video of the clash when there playing "clampdown" life..and topper is doing some cool stuff near the end of the song

what a great song

Can you find that video online? I love clampdown.... everyone does

A few months ago I was listening to Clampdown and at the end of the song, right as it fades out, somebody screams out "Who's barmy now?" It scared the crap out of me. :lol:

Paul Weller beat the s'hit out of Sid Viscious once, proving mod>punk

Huh?

[QUOTE=TheNowhereman42]Paul Weller beat the s'hit out of Sid Viscious once, proving mod>punk[/QUOTE]

Prince Buster beat the s'hit out of Paul Weller once. Rudies > both








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"London Calling, to the mods on the run"

[QUOTE=Ska_Pirate]Can you find that video online? I love clampdown.... everyone does[/QUOTE]
its one of my favorite song.but i dont even know what clampdown means...there's no translation for it..so can someone explain what the word means in other words...please? :upset:

"Clampdown" is kind of a British thing I guess. I've never really heard it here in America. I think it means a repressive government or like a restriction or law against something.

Sounds about right

[QUOTE=Ska_Pirate]Prince Buster beat the s'hit out of Paul Weller once. Rudies > both








[SIZE=1]*has no idea who the paul guy is[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

guy from the Jam

I don't think british people say clampdown either, least i've never heard it over on the jolly olde island

it must be some gay hitler-related organization or something like that. :evil:

i always though clampdown was a system of government who forces you to do somthing..and makes you change how you think and your way of life..but im probley wrong

Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a [B]Jew[/B]?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech
To the young believers
[B]We will train our blue-eyed men[/B]
To be young believers


it leaves me thinking it has something to do with nazis.but i may be wrong as well cause i'm not good in history and stuff like that

No search results on wikipedia

i'll ask my english teacher tomorrow.he loves the clash.and he knows a lot of things

[QUOTE=combatrock*bass]i always though clampdown was a system of government who forces you to do somthing..and makes you change how you think and your way of life..but im probley wrong[/QUOTE]

No, thats actually pretty much what it is.

The line "Kick over the wall, cause government's to fall" is kind of weird because it almost predicted the fall of the Berlin wall about 7 years later.

ooooommmmmmmmmmg "kick over the wall cos governments to fall how can you refuse it?"..is my fav lyrics line in the world its sooo great..andy gave me the translation in french it was my msn name for soem time but not anymore

[url]http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=47761[/url]


these are what these people think "clampdown" represents

I love that bit in Revolution Rock where its goes "El-Clash Combo....... Weddings..Parties...Anything and bongo jams a speciality!" and the bongos are playing almost solo.


I love that song it goes on forever

wow i have never heard them say that..i need to go listen to that song again

its around 5:10

And then it starts talking about mobsters at the end.

I really love the little subtleties in the clash's music , you just dont get that in most music anymore

Thats so true, in almost every song theres just a few words that you sometimes catch.

[QUOTE=White Riot!]I really love the little subtleties in the clash's music , you just dont get that in most music anymore[/QUOTE]
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Its weird how at the beginning of Jimmy Jazz it sounds like there are people talking.

maybe its because there's people who are talking for real...or maybe its in your head.

I love how Joe sounds like he's reading a story in some parts of this song.

[QUOTE=Coma_Girl]maybe its because there's people who are talking for real...or maybe its in your head.

I love how Joe sounds like he's reading a story in some parts of this song.[/QUOTE]

It might be in my head ;). And I'm still looking for Guy Stevens screaming when the chairs fell on him which Topper said is on London Calling.

i think topper said you can ear it when they recorded, but they must have took another take...