:) Does anybody on this thing exhale when they squeel?
i think im the only one ahaha
if theres anyone that does could you give me somepointers?

I used to, but it's so harsh on your voice that you have to be completely rested for like 2 weeks after doing it for like one show.

Inhaled pigs are the way to go sparingly.

Also, don't try to do stuff like Bear from See You Next Tuesday, unless you want your voice cracking constantly.

inhales dont feel right to me. I find them more incomfortable than exhales and I cant hold them for nearly as long.

You're probably not doing them right then. Just go from the top of your mouth/pharynx region, and push down, it's not actually completely, "inhaling," why a lot of people call it, "inward," instead.... true inhales would be:
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But whenever I do that, it makes my voice crack.

What can I do to improve my exhaled growls?
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Work on getting that, "gutteral," sound.

Keep your mouth closed more, focus more on ahs and ohs, push your tongue to your teath and such.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen;14502401]Work on getting that, "gutteral," sound.

Keep your mouth closed more, focus more on ahs and ohs, push your tongue to your teath and such.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Will do!

Yeah dude, np.

Also, it helps if you don't try to enunciate and just sort-of say things.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen;14506874]Yeah dude, np.

Also, it helps if you don't try to enunciate and just sort-of say things.[/QUOTE]

Haha it does actually have lyrics, but I will try to enunciate more.

Well, the trick is, you don't need to have actual lyrics, it just needs to sound like you're saying things. My biggest problem previously was that everything I screamed came out as, "Yaah yaah yaah!"

Hey I have a couple of questions on melodies and singing. Bear with me though, I'm trying to teach myself how to sing until I can afford a teacher so these may sound ridicolous/obvious.. or not. :p

But anyway, question 1: If I write a song that goes for example.. D-E-G.. when I'm playing D, do I HAVE to sing D? the D chord (as you know, but..) has: D, A and F#, so can I sing F#? can I hold an A note while playing a D chord? or is this wrong? And even on a farther strech.. if my song goes: E-A-B , do I have to sing according to the chords at all if I'm singing notes in the key of E? Because.. what if I have a melody line that sort of hits a lot of notes of the scale, and they may or may not be included in that particular chord during the progression? Or should the progression follow the melody wherever it goes?

Question 2: Now, say I move that up with a capo. I move it up to say the 4th fret.. so now "D" is: F# , C# and A#.. is it still a D? can I still sing the same melody as before and just play the chords up there? I know this is more of a theory one I guess..

Any help is greaaaaaty appreciated :)

-Chase

[QUOTE=CKYhellview;14520702]Hey I have a couple of questions on melodies and singing. Bear with me though, I'm trying to teach myself how to sing until I can afford a teacher so these may sound ridicolous/obvious.. or not. :p

But anyway, question 1: If I write a song that goes for example.. D-E-G.. when I'm playing D, do I HAVE to sing D? the D chord (as you know, but..) has: D, A and F#, so can I sing F#? can I hold an A note while playing a D chord? or is this wrong? And even on a farther strech.. if my song goes: E-A-B , do I have to sing according to the chords at all if I'm singing notes in the key of E? Because.. what if I have a melody line that sort of hits a lot of notes of the scale, and they may or may not be included in that particular chord during the progression? Or should the progression follow the melody wherever it goes?

Question 2: Now, say I move that up with a capo. I move it up to say the 4th fret.. so now "D" is: F# , C# and A#.. is it still a D? can I still sing the same melody as before and just play the chords up there? I know this is more of a theory one I guess..

Any help is greaaaaaty appreciated :)

-Chase[/QUOTE]


If the chords are a half step higher, your singing will have to be also. The melody will be the same just a half step higher. When you solo over a E power chord, do you have to play just E and B? No. Its the same with singing. Just go with whatever sounds good. But if its in the right key it should be all set.

Hey Chase, you don't need to sing only the notes that are ringing on the guitar!

Normally, it sounds good to sing in the key, but using your example: D-F#-A (D tryad)...you could sing an E, G, whatever, you'r eprobably going to move.

As said above, stick with what you think sounds good and matches your melodic intention.

Take care.

Thanks! :)

Okay i have a question. I'm the singer and guitarist in a band. I can do both pretty well. The thing is, i am considering of buying a mic. To practice at home. So my questions are:

1. Is practicing with a mic at home really that useful? Will there be a big progress in my voice? Note that i only practice with my band for about 1 hour per week. The other time i'm singing without a mic.

2. I will be connecting the mic to my laptop. Will i be needing an amp or something?? I will be going for cheaper models. Cheaper than SM58..

Any other suggestions welcomed. Thanks.

Oh and my vocal style is a bit like Randy Rampage on Alison Hell i.e dirty-clean most of the time with occasional screams.

I'm also getting into screaming a lot lately. Still learning it though.

I have a question, not sure where to post it so I hope this is the right place.

Before singing i've been told to do vocal exercises, particularly;

Breathing in, holding it in my lungs for a while and then slowly breathing out.

Go through scales.

Octave work, as in singing a note, than singing its octave. Doing this going up a scale.

What I want to know is, what is the actual affect of each of these excercises? What is each one actually helping my voice/throat/lungs with?

The breathing is working to increase your breath capacity, which is important but focus more on release the breath steadily without too much pressure. To do this, just make a hiss sound, and hold it out as long as possible, and as consistently as possible (meaning the sound of the hiss isn't shaking or changing at all).

The scales help to warm up your voice because they are very isolated; they are usually vowels which makes it much easier on your cords than actual songs which contain consonants/emotion/and many other things that can affect your voice. It also helps with muscle memory in terms of learning the different intervals and stuff which will help your pitch out so its good to drill this stuff.

[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;14582305]The scales help to warm up your voice because they are very isolated; they are usually vowels which makes it much easier on your cords than actual songs which contain consonants/emotion/and many other things that can affect your voice. It also helps with muscle memory in terms of learning the different intervals and stuff which will help your pitch out so its good to drill this stuff.[/QUOTE]
So I take it the octave work is to mainly help with the muscle memory thing?

Well people do things for different reasons, but yeah thats a big use of it. Its also just a good interval to use when doing warm ups and other exercises to get the blood flow going to your cords.

[QUOTE=meteor_47;14562490]Okay i have a question. I'm the singer and guitarist in a band. I can do both pretty well. The thing is, i am considering of buying a mic. To practice at home. So my questions are:

1. Is practicing with a mic at home really that useful? Will there be a big progress in my voice? Note that i only practice with my band for about 1 hour per week. The other time i'm singing without a mic.

2. I will be connecting the mic to my laptop. Will i be needing an amp or something?? I will be going for cheaper models. Cheaper than SM58..

Any other suggestions welcomed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=meteor_47;14563807]Oh and my vocal style is a bit like Randy Rampage on Alison Hell i.e dirty-clean most of the time with occasional screams.

I'm also getting into screaming a lot lately. Still learning it though.[/QUOTE]

Why isnt anyone helping me??? :confused:

[QUOTE=meteor_47;14588242]Why isnt anyone helping me??? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Practicing with the mic isn't really going to help anything, unless you are using it to record yourself and listen back? If your just using it to amplify your voice to practice though its not going to help you progress.

Mics need PA's/powered monitors. You can also use a keyboard amp, but never a guitar amp. It will more than likely damage the computer speakers so don't use them.

Yeah the only thing it'd help for is if you had bits that are louder than others so you can move the mic away from you as you sing those bits . . .
Maybe lol

Okay, I'm new on here. But I have to say before I ask for help, that I can't afford singing lessons. I want to know how to belt. I'm the best male vocalist in my town. But I want to belt. Vocal belting. I play guitar too. I want to learn to incorporate my singing with guitar. I WANT TO BELT. Bad. Singing is about passion, and I belting makes me feel the best. I've tried and sometimes it happens, or so I think. When it happens I can feel the music. I'm also having trouble with creating melodies for songs I write. If I do, then I can't think of something that goes good for the music when I sing it. Also, people tell me, that my songs sound too "monotone"... I need some Real help. Thanks.

[QUOTE=tacrae;14622730]Okay, I'm new on here. But I have to say before I ask for help, that I can't afford singing lessons. I want to know how to belt. I'm the best male vocalist in my town. But I want to belt. Vocal belting. I play guitar too. I want to learn to incorporate my singing with guitar. I WANT TO BELT. Bad. Singing is about passion, and I belting makes me feel the best. I've tried and sometimes it happens, or so I think. When it happens I can feel the music. I'm also having trouble with creating melodies for songs I write. If I do, then I can't think of something that goes good for the music when I sing it. Also, people tell me, that my songs sound too "monotone"... I need some Real help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]


Define your definition of belt please. It's different to a lot of people, so before you can get advice you need to be a bit more clear.

With vocal melodies, usually it just comes with having a good ear. I always listen back to the instrumental about 5 times, and start humming something along with it, and it will fit. You need to make sure you know the melody of the instrumental like the back of your hand before you can come up with a good vocal melody. You could also start by forming a vocal melody that copies the guitar part, then start to break up the melody so that it still goes well with the guitar part, but doesn't follow it exactly; just change the way you phrase each word.

I know you said you can't afford singing lessons, but please at least buy some type of product so that you can have something to work with that will keep you on the right track. Let me know the max you could spend on a 1 time purchase for a vocal technique book or cd program,plus the type of music you do, and i'll suggest what will fit you and your style best.

Vocal belting, you know like, singing from your chest, it sounds like falsetto but it isn't and Aretha Franklin, Chris Cornell, Christina Aguilera to name a few can do it perfectly. That's the type of belt I'm talkin' bout. Thanks. As for the purchase, right now 0$ cause I have NO money. Also, my goal is to bring back grunge music. I don't mean wannabe either, or "post".. I mean REAL grunge. So I'd like to experiment with belting to see how I like that.. and my upper registers as well. thanks.

I've decided I'm going to learn how to sing.

For good.

No pussying out after the first song I try and sing or the first recording I make this time.

I need to be able to do backing vocals, and I need to be able to sing a few songs of my own. I don't want to be Pavarotti, but if I can sing some campfire songs and rock standards that would be fantastic.

Thing is I really, really don't know where to start. I have this DVD
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Can-Sing-Seven-Steps-Singing/dp/B0000CDUWW[/url]
(lol) and I don't know, maybe its too advanced too basic or in the wrong genre for me (but singing is singing, right? gotta be able to do pop stuff...) but I never get anywhere with it.

Are there any really basic rock'n'roll vocal books/DVDs out there?

I mean for starters I just want to be able to do 'oohs' and 'ahhs' in the chorus of songs, surely that can't require the biggest workbook of all time?

Reckon Johnny Cash would be a good starting point? As a guitarist I never really pay much attention to how 'technical' the vocals of songs are. I'm thinking trying to start with T.Rex would be a bad idea though.

lol jon

whut

[QUOTE=Jon;14630336]I've decided I'm going to learn how to sing.

For good.

No slightly confuzzled sea lioning out after the first song I try and sing or the first recording I make this time.

I need to be able to do backing vocals, and I need to be able to sing a few songs of my own. I don't want to be Pavarotti, but if I can sing some campfire songs and rock standards that would be fantastic.

Thing is I really, really don't know where to start. I have this DVD
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Can-Sing-Seven-Steps-Singing/dp/B0000CDUWW[/url]
(lol) and I don't know, maybe its too advanced too basic or in the wrong genre for me (but singing is singing, right? gotta be able to do pop stuff...) but I never get anywhere with it.

Are there any really basic rock'n'roll vocal books/DVDs out there?

I mean for starters I just want to be able to do 'oohs' and 'ahhs' in the chorus of songs, surely that can't require the biggest workbook of all time?

Reckon Johnny Cash would be a good starting point? As a guitarist I never really pay much attention to how 'technical' the vocals of songs are. I'm thinking trying to start with T.Rex would be a bad idea though.[/QUOTE]


Get Jaime Vendera's Raise Your Voice. The ebook is only 20 bucks and you get access to the member section of his site which has everything you'll need. You can get it on getsigned.com I believe