[QUOTE=LeperAffinity]No, the thing with that was that they weren't allowed to record them for the dvd. I'm pretty sure the label can't stop them from playing any songs that they want to. Also, I remember reading about a year or two ago that Mikael said that on this past tour, they would play songs that they usually don't play live. That could be the reason for the exclusion of older material, because it's usually played.[/QUOTE]

ah, thanks for clearing that up

Here's a thought...

I know that some people dislike morningrise and orchid because of the bad sound quality, and the horrible death growl that Mikeal had back then. but...

Seeing as they've moved on from this type of sound, If they play some of their older songs on tour along with their newer stuff, will it sound better? Obviously Mikeal's growl has improved ten-fold.

So what do you think? Do you think you will like some of their older songs more if they played them live now?

Opeth are rubbish every song you hear by them shoulds like a cradle of filth song it poor maybe there a cheap copy of them. they cannot even play there own instrruments and thats a fact cos i asked mikeal himself.

[QUOTE=bizzercom]Opeth are rubbish every song you hear by them shoulds like a cradle of filth song it poor maybe there a cheap copy of them. they cannot even play there own instrruments and thats a fact cos i asked mikeal himself.[/QUOTE]

you know, i heard you play the skinflute quite well, i know coz i asked your mother herslef, she said she taught you how.

LOLZ, ROXORS!!!!1 OMG, I LIEK PWNDED U!!!!111ONE!!!!!17

but seriously, that wasn't very entertaining on your behalf, if your gonna be in this thread as a regular, your gonna have to come up with better material then that, i didn't even giggle at that junk :( i'm dissapointed troll boy, now, shoo, go practice the skin flute.

I just bought the Opeth DVD and the orchid CD and I must say I was very impressed with both of them. First off, I was really suprised by the Orchid. It is now one of my favorite CDs of all time. The DVD was equally amazing. Mikael sounds just as good live as he does in the studio. Martin Lopez is one of my favorite drummers and to see him do live was intense. Every note was precise and perfect. Even the making of Deliverence and ****ation was good. I cannot wait until Opeth makes another CD.

[QUOTE=bizzercom]Opeth are rubbish every song you hear by them shoulds like a cradle of filth song it poor maybe there a cheap copy of them. they cannot even play there own instrruments and thats a fact cos i asked mikeal himself.[/QUOTE]
Get ready my freind, you are about to get a brutal anal raping. :)

[QUOTE=bizzercom]Opeth are rubbish every song you hear by them shoulds like a cradle of filth song it poor maybe there a cheap copy of them. they cannot even play there own instrruments and thats a fact cos i asked mikeal himself.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Opeth is nothing more than CoF copy regardless of the fact that Opeth formed a year earlier than them, and that Mikael Akerfeldt doesn't sing like his testicles are in a vice grip. Secondly the fact that CoF currently play gothic metal, while Opeth's greatness can't even be put into one category. And your claim about the band members not being able to play their instruments is the biggest festering pile of semen-covered horsesh[b][i][/b][/i]it I've ever heard. How do you explain the live performances? How do you explain those that have seen them play, or watched the dvd, and the making of the record? Martin Mendez, who doesn't even use his feet, has more intelligence in his big toe than you possess in your entire body you inbred moron. I think I felt myself getting dumber just by replying to what you said.

[QUOTE=LeperAffinity]festering pile of semen-covered horsesh[b][i][/b][/i]it[/QUOTE]


Isn't that a Cradle of Filth song...

[QUOTE=LeperAffinity]Martin Mendez, who doesn't even use his feet, [/QUOTE]
He's right you know. Mendez travels in style: in a wheelchair.

[QUOTE=The Flabbit Rides High]Here's a thought...

I know that some people dislike morningrise and orchid because of the bad sound quality, and the horrible death growl that Mikeal had back then. but...

Seeing as they've moved on from this type of sound, If they play some of their older songs on tour along with their newer stuff, will it sound better? Obviously Mikeal's growl has improved ten-fold.

So what do you think? Do you think you will like some of their older songs more if they played them live now?[/QUOTE]

I think they would, and I wish they had some of their older stuff on the DVD...but of course, having 10 minute songs doesn't leave room for a whole lot of them in a gig.

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]He's right you know. Mendez travels in style: in a wheelchair.[/QUOTE]
[b]REALLY?[/b] :eek:

How come in the live video I posted he is standing?

[QUOTE]Opeth are rubbish every song you hear by them shoulds like a cradle of filth song it poor maybe there a cheap copy of them. they cannot even play there own instrruments and thats a fact cos i asked mikeal himself.[/QUOTE]

instead of spending all day thinking about how much of a stupid remark that was and wasting my energy and time typing hundreds of reasons why opeth is 100x better then cradle of filth or how unbelievably skilled/talented the members of opeth are i'll try my best to ignore what you wrote

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]He's right you know. Mendez travels in style: in a wheelchair.[/QUOTE]
:p I meant instrumentally, but a pimped out wheelchair would be pretty badas[b][i][/b][/i]s.

Ok, I finally have some time to give my interpretations of a song or two off Blackwater Park. First, Blackwater Park isn't a concept album per se, as there is no continuous story througout. Ok, might as well start with the first track, The Leper Affinity. Remember, this is just my interpretation of the lyrics.

Ok, so the basic premise of this song appears to be a murder, and also potentially rape, of most likely a woman. "Neath the lid all limbs tucked away/This coffin is your abode from now on" is a pretty obvious one in its meaning.

lol, I'm actually getting fed up having to reference the lyrics to write them down correctly in quotes, and I've only done one! I know, a cop out, but if you read through the lyrics yourself I think my thought on the song makes a lot of sense. If you guys want more than what I've given on this song (which isn't jack squat), I'll do individual lines or whatever you may have questions on. Bah, sorry, thought I was up for it right now!

don't worry, that's a good start, i had a look through the lyrics, and i can see where your coming from. The theme isn;t consistent throughout the whole album, but the theme of a murder in leper affinity is apparent.

Mikael has said there is a subtle underlying theme of his disgust for humanity throughout the album.

I have mentioned before that BwP is a type of ''one-emotional'' album.

It makes you understand why it is the fan-favourite actually, cause most people aren't used to the 12 min average songs and the in-song alternation between light and dark moments.

did you guys know there was supposed to be a piano instrumental on Morningrise. How good would that of been?

[QUOTE]Originally Posted By [B]bizzercom[/B]
Opeth are rubbish every song you hear by them shoulds like a cradle of filth song it poor maybe there a cheap copy of them. they cannot even play there own instrruments and thats a fact cos i asked mikeal himself.[/QUOTE]

Which dream of yours involved you talking to Mike?? BTW u find a better metal vocalist than Mikael Akerfeldt and ill give you 100 bucks. And Cradle of Filth would not be ripping off Opeth, as stated before Opeth formed before COF. IDIOT

that piano instrumental would have been pretty awesome.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]And Cradle of Filth would not be ripping off Opeth, as stated before Opeth formed before COF. IDIOT[/QUOTE]

I believe you mean Opeth would not be ripping of Cradle Of Filth :)

I like Opeth & Cradle, although I prefer Opeth because even in the hard songs, there's an underlying melody whereas Cradle has songs that are just obnoxious loud screaming. Anywho, I have Blackwater Park and my favorite Opeth songs are Godhead's Lament, Bleak, The Drapery Falls, Hope Leaves, Harvest, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Master's Apprentices, The Moor, etc.

i have bwp, ****ation, deliverance, morningrise.... i want still life, and my arms your hearse soooo bad.... i quit downloading about a year ago, so i actually have to support the bands i love now.:)


any one else love the piano ending in leper affinity? yeh big pimpin


by the way, in yous guys' opinions... which opeth albums has the best production quality and sound.... i'd say deliverance.... though im not saying thats my favourite album


morningrise has pretty ****ty production IMO, compared to others...

Oh yes your right lol lucky i wasnt flamed for that :thumb:. Meh Morningrise isnt the best production, but it has some of the best riffs and harmonies that Opeth have ever done.

is it true the beginning part of the acoustic intro in the apostle in triumph was meant to be part of requiem? my friend told me that, any ideas?

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]is it true the beginning part of the acoustic intro in the apostle in triumph was meant to be part of requiem? my friend told me that, any ideas?[/QUOTE]
Yea, it's true. Mikael said that he wasn't present when they were mixing it or whatever, and by the time he realized it, it was too late to change it.

To whoever liked the piano part at the end of Leper Affinity: listen to Silhouette.

i reckon the intro in apostle sounds better in apostle lol

I have a question; and I'm positive it has been answered before, but when did Mikeal start using more death-ish vocals, a la Blackwater Park instead of vocals like Orchid and Morningrise? Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Throw.This.Away]I have a question; and I'm positive it has been answered before, but when did Mikeal start using more death-ish vocals, a la Blackwater Park instead of vocals like Orchid and Morningrise? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]

He started on My Arms Your Hearse, and perfected them by Blackwater Park (In my opinion)

Edit: By the way, I just wanted half of the Lamentations DVD today. I was just getting to the heavy parts, and my parents rolled in the driveway. I don't think they would have been pleased with Master's Apprentices blasting in the family room so I took it out, to be watched at a later date :\