[QUOTE=SonorKen]Listen to the snare strikes in Eulogy, you'll see what Im talking about. I think it adds alot of character to the song.[/QUOTE]
I think he exemplifies that with his stuff in Volto.

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ok people, if you had to pick one tool song as your favorite, for watever reason, which one would it be? as a beggining bass player, my favorite is schism, because its quite a challenge to play. now that i think about it, it is really hard to chose one song as a favorite. Tool just has so many good songs, and heck, their all challenging in bass

Can't even tell you how many times we've done that SubCOnsciousFeer.

yeah. ive been playing for a year and am still working on schism, mainly cause I dont have bass effects:(

Danny does some cool hip-hop stuff in Eulogy.

Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?

i really want to get a wammy pedal, since when justin uses it, it sounds so cool

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Surprisingly, I have noticed that on Eulogy. Carey's playing has really shown me just how dynamic drums are, and how hard it is do control them.

Do you throw in little things like that in your playing, Ken?[/QUOTE]
I don't think Carey intentionally did that tho. I tend to play more ghost notes than Carey does. I love accenting drum fills with small little ghost notes. I tend to try to write drum patterns in odd patterns. The first song on the myspace account is actually wrote around patterns of 3. It has a very odd time signature which changes from measure to measure. I need to sit down and solidify the drum track for that song but havent had the time. When I get back from the beach I plan to spend quite a bit of time in our studio working on perfecting the drum tracks.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?[/QUOTE]
Ye but they are just to pricy. Am short on cash on the moment too. Am gonna save up for a pedal I saw on muscicians friend

I'd rather have a chorus pedal if I played bass. It seems more used in Justin's playing.

Ken- Yeah, those kinds of things are what make good drummers great. See Meshuggah's Stengah for some great, layered drumming. Sure, the drumming is amazing enough, but when you really concentrate on the drumming, you can hear these ghosts on the snare. Haake does that quite a bit, probably one of the reasons he is considered one of the genres great drummers.

Oh geeze, more Meshuggah talk. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Is Danny doing that entire polyrythm during the intro of Eulogy? I can only play the first part with 2 hands. :p I think that part is coming through the left ear, then the more metallic sounding object comes in through the right. they could be both panned on center, but I think they're panned to each ear..[/QUOTE]

Thats a difficult question to answer. Alot of it is patterns that he has put together in strings to run together. Some of the actual patterns that he plays are with the Roland Handsonic. The Handsonic is phenominal because it will allow you to play up to 10 to 12 different rhythms at one time. You use all 10 of your fingers and your feet. I believe the majority of the intro to this is all strung out in (man, I am having a brain fart, I can't think of the word for a string of pre-arranged music) strings or pre-arranged music that he triggers the beginning and end.

If you listen to the recording you will hear the tabla type beats continue. This could be done as overdubbing in the studio but I have heard it played live and it is identical to the recording. He was playing the Handsonic when I saw them live in 92.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that and a couple others.

I'm doing the polyrhythm right now with my foot as the cymbal type part. On my computer desk of course.

Oh, yeah yeah, that's right. I remember hearing about that Handsonic. Are you thinking of the word loop? :p So, when he plays it live, he just puts the Handsonic on a loop?

Ok, I know I'm the usually the resident tone whore around here, but I have been stumped- The intro of H.? How the hell does he get such a 'wet' tone? I'm talking about before the clean part, the very first riff played. It sounds like a different amp, or a fuzz/grunge pedal of some sort?

Am gonna get a pedal with pretty much all needed.

Dont you ****ing lie! High points of aenima!

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I'd rather have a chorus pedal if I played bass. It seems more used in Justin's playing.

Ken- Yeah, those kinds of things are what make good drummers great. See Meshuggah's Stengah for some great, layered drumming. Sure, the drumming is amazing enough, but when you really concentrate on the drumming, you can hear these ghosts on the snare. Haake does that quite a bit, probably one of the reasons he is considered one of the genres great drummers.

Oh geeze, more Meshuggah talk. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

THe thing I love about ghost notes are they are actually felt and not heard when played properly. You know something was played, you feel it, but you didn't hear it. When I do my sound check before a show I always make sure my sound engineer sets up my snare for Ghost notes.

mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Oh, yeah yeah, that's right. I remember hearing about that Handsonic. Are you thinking of the word loop? :p So, when he plays it live, he just puts the Handsonic on a loop?[/QUOTE]
hahahaha yea, loops! My god. There is another word for it too, I use it in my Roland gear!

I plan to use my SPDS to create and run some of my major loops and use the D-beam controller on the Handsonic to start and stop some of the more laid back drum beats. I have always wanted a Handsonic but couldnt ever really justify buying one. Now that Crutch is poised to take off huge I can justify spending the 1000 bucks for one!

Nice avatar Ken. That's a cool design.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Seth- Glad to see you posting here. Here are a few links to what we need vocals on.

Part of Me
Lateralus
Stinkfist

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm[/url]

They call all be downloaded there. They aren't full insturmentals yet. Part of Me is only my guitar part, but we have drums, they've just not been uploaded yet. Lateralus has a drum track, and we've got the guitars coming. Stinkfist has my guitar track, which is out of time, and a good drum track. If you have AIM, add DrJakeDestructo, or on msn you can reach me at spiralout7 @ gmail.com.[/QUOTE]

Bump'd for Seth.

7 octaves, holy christ. :amaze: She does have that wierd whine thing though. :-/ Still extremely impressive.

[QUOTE=breakyourCrutch]mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8[/QUOTE]
Well not counting those squeaking notes she should have 5 am I right? I only hear Maynard use about 2 or 3 but with excellent control. Tarja from Nightwish has only two but has amazing control.

lol thanks man

Probably but believe it or not, falsetto notes do count

[QUOTE=breakyourCrutch]mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8[/QUOTE]
Are you more comfortable in one octave or another or are they all equally easy to sing within? Does this question even make sense? haha

Also, can you train yourself to perfect these octaves and reach others?

:lol: Yes, those are what I was talking about. She's the Zakk Wylde of vocalists. Master of pinch harmonics.

Oh, and does anyone else hear the similarities between Useful Idiot and the wierd sampling near the end of Push[SIZE=2]it[/SIZE]?

well I'm more of a mid-upper range kinda guy myself....octaves 3 and 4 are my strongest

If my band started getting anywhere I'd pay for vocal lessons but right now I have to settle for online tips and lessons like on MX. I'm a mid-upper guy too.

Madey that'd be eleven octaves.

[QUOTE=Moses]Nice avatar Ken. That's a cool design.[/QUOTE]
hahaha that is something that Seth and I created. It is kinda how we view the world, universe, spirituality. Every part of the design means something. Well probably put it on our first t-shirts or album cover or something.

Well, singing range and actual vocal range are totally different things. I can probably sing perfectly in about 1.5 octaves, but I can hit notes (la la la) in about 2.5 to 3 octaves.

[size=3][color=orange][b]Seth- See the post second from the top on this page, please[/size][/color][/b]

Thx.

Heh, I still have to redo the 46 and 2. Atleast the rough spots.

gotcha
thanks yo

You're gonna redo it? Not happy with it, or what?

going to bed, later people! Thanks again,talk to you tomorrow

Seth

Most parts were fine but some were really shi[B][I][/I][/B]tty.

Why wonder how many notes and how perfect I can think. someone chek the out the dont panic cover, it has my vocals :cool:

I suck btw

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/theherbals_music.htm[/url]

I think that for the first time in the period of time I've liked Tool, I'm actually liking Ænima more than Lateralus.

:confused:

Interesting feeling this is. :p

I don't know why but I just feel Lateralus is alot darker than the rest. So far the only one to agree with me was Kage but he's been in and out like once in the last few weeks.

[QUOTE=Moses]I don't know why but I just feel Lateralus is alot darker than the rest. So far the only one to agree with me was Kage but he's been in and out like once in the last few weeks.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you.

The patient's emotion just does lateralus for me

Awesome someone agrees with me!!

[QUOTE=Mr Herb]The patient's emotion just does lateralus for me[/QUOTE]
WOW, that is weird, thats the exact song I am listening too hahaha. We should all decide on a night, start all the cds at the same time and discuss them while they play. We should do it on chat tho.