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gaslight 02-26-2010 02:24 AM

No rig is ever complete. By the time you've had it for one day you'll think of another thing that you want.

fatbandit 02-26-2010 03:46 AM

Well I know I want a bigger cab. But right now we can't fit a bigger one in our cars to take to gigs, so I'm fine right there. My pedals will never be how I want them. I want a massive pedalboard of individual pedals again, but the convenience and size comes into it once more, so I'm happy with what I've got now. And I have another bass on the way, but that isn't so much part of the rig to me. That's just what you choose to play through it.

No rig is ever complete, but this incarnation of this rig very nearly is, and it's the way it's going to stay for a while :)

gaslight 02-26-2010 04:02 AM

Latest gear I'm drooling over is Mono gig bags.

FunkMetalBass 02-26-2010 09:06 AM

It's true that no rig is ever complete. We're musicians and hopefully we are always evolving and changing.

However, Ritter aside, I'm not GASing over any basses anymore. Amp-wise, I'm really happy with my current rig except I want to build that BFM full-range cab to replace my full stack and put both of my 4U racks into one 8U rolling rack. I don't really use effects all that much, so I'd like to think that I'm happy there as well.

My biggest rig issue is just finishing up all of my bass projects. (2 preamp installs, one pickup install, 2 refinishes, and possibly dying a fretboard black)

Spaceman Spiff 02-26-2010 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight;17832143]No rig is ever complete. By the time you've had it for one day you'll think of another thing that you want.[/QUOTE]

Meh. I've never been a gear nut. Once I have my amp, the only thing I'll ever need is to buy a new pedal here or there if I come across something I really want. I've got my guitars that I can never imagine selling/trading/replacing or even adding to; they're incredible sounding and both very different in tone. I've got all the pedals I can think of that I'd want. I just need a more gangster amp.

FunkMetalBass 02-26-2010 11:24 AM

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17832507]Meh. I've never been a gear nut. Once I have my amp, the only thing I'll ever need is to buy a new pedal here or there if I come across something I really want. I've got my guitars that I can never imagine selling/trading/replacing or even adding to; they're incredible sounding and both very different in tone. I've got all the pedals I can think of that I'd want. I just need a more gangster amp.[/quote]

"I just need...amp."

Your rig is not complete.

It will never be.

You'll have months of complacence...and then you'll see something else you want.

Spaceman Spiff 02-26-2010 11:32 AM

I've already got a good amp, I'm not hurting for one. Hell, I don't even know which one I'd want. I just know what style amp I want. Tube combo 2x12, holla.

Really, guitars will never be an issue for me again. Now that I have my Tele and Jazzmaster, I'm done with guitars.

Same with pedals. The only addition I want to make is a looper, but I'm still deciding on if it would be worth it.

fatbandit 02-26-2010 12:34 PM

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17832514]The only addition I want to make is a looper, but I'm still deciding on if it would be worth it.[/quote]

Yes.

Spaceman Spiff 02-26-2010 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit;17832588]Yes.[/QUOTE]

That's what I'm leaning towards. It would be great for playing live, could use it a lot to really thicken up our sound.

fatbandit 02-26-2010 12:48 PM

I just use the looper on my M9 for recording noise and looping it.

No, I tell a lie, I use it for a little bit of simple looping to layer up synth sounds too. It's quite neat, but I'd recommend a bunch of practice before trying to use it live, just getting your timing right. Our guitarist loops stuff sometimes too, it's quite cool. We tried simultaneous looping before but that ended disastrously. If you're even the tiniest bit out with each other, it's really obvious by the 4th/5th repeat :(

Regardless, they're great fun. I'd probably recommend an Akai Headrush.

Spaceman Spiff 02-26-2010 01:14 PM

Yes, I completely understand the practice it would take to use in a live setting, but it would be so worth it once I got my skills up to that level.

FunkMetalBass 02-26-2010 02:18 PM

[quote=fatbandit;17832607]I just use the looper on my M9 for recording noise and looping it.

No, I tell a lie, I use it for a little bit of simple looping to layer up synth sounds too. It's quite neat, but I'd recommend a bunch of practice before trying to use it live, just getting your timing right. Our guitarist loops stuff sometimes too, it's quite cool. We tried simultaneous looping before but that ended disastrously. If you're even the tiniest bit out with each other, it's really obvious by the 4th/5th repeat :(

Regardless, they're great fun. I'd probably recommend an Akai Headrush.[/quote]

Yes. The headrush seems wicked cool.

For the price, though, I'm sure an RC-2 would suit me just fine for basic looping needs.

fatbandit 02-26-2010 06:08 PM

No, the RC-2 looks horrible. One footswitch for multiple functions isn't it? Headrush will do it. EHX Stereo Memory Man w/Hazarai will do it, Line DL4 will do it, Boss RC-20 will do it. Loads of things, essentially. I can't see why any of them would be beaten out by an RC-2 except for space. and maybe price. But you get what you pay for.

gaslight 02-26-2010 06:24 PM

Headrush is a cool pedal, nice echo/delay with a looping feature, but isn't really a dedicated looper.

Depending on how much looping you want to do, you should look at a Boss RC50. I'm not aware of anything that stands above that one in terms of being a big bastard looper.

fatbandit 02-26-2010 06:26 PM

Meh, the DL4 isn't a dedicated looper, but so many people use it as one. Same with the Headrush. It's what Russian Circles use, and they're pretty much loop kings. I don't know why I advocate the Headrush so much. I don't even use one.

gaslight 02-26-2010 06:32 PM

The Headrush is cool but it doesn't actually have very much loop capacity if you want to do long loops of things, it's maximum available looping time is like 23 seconds, maybe 30 seconds in extended mode.

That's cool if you're just throwing in some quick loops in a band setting or whatever but if you're trying to build a solo performance with full on chord changes and different sections, it doesn't have that functionality. It's not so much a fault of it though, it just isn't designed to do that. I had my heart set on one for years until I opted to go for the RC50 for access to all of that extra time, sampling and layering.

Sick as pedal though, I'm definitely going to add one to my collection at some stage. They're just so damn cool.

Moon Flavor 02-26-2010 07:04 PM

I loved my Digitech Jam man, ****ing top notch looper

until i sold it for drugs

gay

gaslight 02-26-2010 07:19 PM

damn man

welfare case or what

fatbandit 02-27-2010 09:16 AM

I have never needed more than the 28 seconds the DL4 can do. And now I have an M9 which does 56. So... yeah.

I didn't get the impression Spiff was going to need it for long passages either.

gaslight 02-27-2010 09:54 AM

Well if you just want it for quick loops of a few seconds yeah, don't bother getting a massive one.

When I was reading up on the M9 and M13, Line 6 only advertised it as being a 28 second looper, is that 28 stereo and 56 mono?

fatbandit 02-27-2010 10:56 AM

There's a half speed switch on the DL4 and the M9/13.

It's for recording a loop, and then slowing it down so it's slower. But you can also engage it before pressing record, and then when disengaged again it plays your loop back at double speed.

But yeah, basically if you engage it before you record, it doubles your recording time to 56 seconds.

Spaceman Spiff 02-27-2010 11:13 AM

I don't know exactly how much looping time I'd need, but probably not more than 28 seconds at a time.

fatbandit 02-27-2010 11:34 AM

28 seconds is a lot longer than you think as well. A whole section of a song might only be that long. But to take advantage of the looper, you'd want to record maybe a quarter of that and then have that loop 4 times, so you'd need only like 8 seconds at once. Don't worry about needing more time :)

Spaceman Spiff 02-27-2010 11:54 AM

Exactly. Like if I recorded one repetition of some rhythm guitar to loop then played lead on the following repetitions.

gaslight 02-27-2010 05:38 PM

Yeah, you can fit a lot of short loops into a small amount of seconds. I'm not trying to sell everyone a giant looper but gosh you can do some fun things with them.

pukeboy66 02-27-2010 06:54 PM

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17819660]What's wrong with it?
I'll buy it off you.



I've got an unopened bottle of that in my freezer right now next to and unopened bottle of Bailey's. I've got some Irish stout that I brewed up a couple weeks back in my fridge. Irish Car Bombs this weekend? I think so.[/QUOTE]

I'm not entirely sure, I took it to a shop and they told me the problem was the preamp and i needed 60$ to get it fixed : /

funkyhoney 02-27-2010 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=Moon Flavor;17833353]I loved my Digitech Jam man, ****ing top notch looper

until i sold it for drugs

gay[/QUOTE]

:lol:

gaslight 02-27-2010 07:49 PM

Yeah that one was a pisser :lol:.

funkyhoney 02-27-2010 08:36 PM

Hey I used to have heaps of awesome stuff. It was all so good and I loved it all.

But I sold it for drugs. Damn.

Az_Holl 02-27-2010 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17834768]Hey I used to have heaps of awesome stuff. It was all so good and I loved it all.

But I sold it for drugs. Damn.[/QUOTE]
What you do is:
-you take the awesome stuff,
-make awesome music,
-people give you money for the awesome music,
-you take that money and buy drugs with it,
-take the drugs,
-music becomes even better because of the drugs
-people give you more money for the better music
-buy more drugs


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