Ok, i just looked it up, whenever james signs a contract to go on tour there is a "no skateboarding clause."

Kirk just doesn't have the "I'm a badass" attitude, which I think is a good thing.

Edit: Sorry that was kinda late and off topic, but it lagged and all I saw was the post on Kirk.

[QUOTE=led_zep_luvr]he's not a wuss, but he knows lars, james, or rob can kick his ***. i think even if he was stronger he wouldn't like fighting. it's just that way he was brought up i guess[/QUOTE]
[U]Kirks childhood:[/U]
Parented by an Irish man and Filipino woman, the father would regularly beat up Kirks mum... and therefore Kirk.

Kirk also had an abusive next door neighbour that raped him and his dog.

When Kirk took up guitar, he was offered the choice of giving up guitar and staying at home or sticking with it but leaving the house.

Guess what he chose? :thumb:

His on stage (and frequently off-stage) character seems a very timid, and rather camp one... this is true.
But hey, they have Hetfield and Ulrich to be the loud ones.

His demeanour and the fact that he doesnt like to be touched by people he doesnt know and trust very well probably came from his upbringing...

During Black album-ReLoad era, Kirk was quite a druggy.

He has been surfing* along with yoga and Lacto-Ovo Vegetarianism to help cleanse himself of all drugs and cravings... and as he said himself, (according to his girlfriend) "being a Lacto-Ovo makes my sperm taste better!"

:thumb: Nice Kirk...



*Rob is also an avid surfer and snowboarder and regularly surfs with Kirk... thats actually how Rob got to hear from Metallica, cuz Kirk knew him from surfing.



I am actually a fountain of knowledge, all hail me...

Sometimes when Kirk's on stage especially For Whom The Bell Tolls Woodstock '99 I reckon he's showing off :p
There's one part during the first 'solo' where he's walking down the front of the stage, and you just know he's struting. :p
Sorry, kinda worthless...

But to the guy above me, that was awesome know any history on the other guys? (Including Mustaine, hahaha :D).

Edit: I don't quite understand the raped his dog part though :/

Lars is in my opinion the craziest guy in the band and probably the craziest drummer ever

I reckon one of their best songs is the memory remains but all my friends think it's crap. I need some support...

Lars...craziest drummer ever? Crazy could be explained in a few ways so I guess I have nothing more to say to that.

The Memory Remains is alright. The vocals at the end killed it. Most people will disagree with you because it isn't the old Metallica, and as almost everyone agrees, old Metallica is the best Metallica.

I just don't like Memory Remains because the song is generally crap.
I don't like much of ReLoad, though...Unforgiven II, Carpe Diem Baby, Low Man's Lyric and Fixxxer are the only songs I like off ReLoad.

[QUOTE=Mister_Che]The one that says "MORE BEER" right? Man thats a beaut.[/QUOTE]


Probably the one off of the Seattle vid. The one that says EET FUK....I liked that one. I'd like to see how a double neck Explorer plays....

[QUOTE=munky_magik]It's not a very good documentary becasue it doesn't present the truth, but is edited to make the band look good.
I imagine the way things are, and they way they appear in the film are rather different.[/QUOTE]

Have you even seen it? Your far from correct. It makes the band look terrible over the past 5 or 6 years and then shows the truth about how they came back together and put out an album the sold millions a copies.

THEN they went on two tours. so it's showing their h[COLOR=White]e[/COLOR]ll, and their struggles and how they got out of it

[QUOTE=I_love_cheesy_poofs]I reckon one of their best songs is the memory remains but all my friends think it's crap. I need some support...[/QUOTE]

I think it's far from their best. It's good, just way far away from best

I do agree that it shows the inner workings of the band, but in some scenes, it makes them look like gold. For example, the Mustaine scene (both cuts)..

[QUOTE=I_love_cheesy_poofs]Lars is in my opinion the craziest guy in the band and probably the craziest drummer ever[/QUOTE]
Craziest drummer ever? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Avellin]Probably the one off of the Seattle vid. The one that says EET FUK....I liked that one. I'd like to see how a double neck Explorer plays....[/QUOTE]
Theys the same, just different stickers. :p

[U]More Metallica knowledge:[/U] Hetfield was wearing a double neck explorer and playing Fade to Black during that famous pyro incident... the guitars inlays were ducks and its torched now.
:lol:

Chu; Thanks :D . Youre right about Kirk, he shows off a fair bit, he and Rob sang a verse each during Seek and Destroy at a show in Pensacola recently (also the first time theyd played Call of Ktulu since '85, excluding S&M).


And the film is most certainly not edited to make them look good... what about that scene with Lars selling his paintings?? His management told him not to put that in cuz it makes him look all greedy and stuff and he said they had to put it in there or it was denying the fans the true Lars.

[QUOTE=^Dream~Theater^]Craziest drummer ever? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Crazy doesnt necessarily equal good... he is a pretty crazy drummer, or at least he used to be.

Youd best not say Mike Portnoys better... :lol:

[QUOTE=Hardest_Rocker]I dont see why metallica cant have 3 guitarists like Iron Maiden or Lynyrd Skynyrd...[/QUOTE]

it wouldn't be as cool. you don't need three guitarists.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]it wouldn't be as cool. you don't need three guitarists.[/QUOTE]
True. Most of Maidens best stuff was written on 2 guitars...

[QUOTE=Fernandes Power]Crazy doesnt necessarily equal good... he is a pretty crazy drummer, or at least he used to be.

Youd best not say Mike Portnoys better... :lol:[/QUOTE]
I was going to say Bonzo but Portnoy blows Lars out of the water anyday as well and your in denial if you can't see that.

[QUOTE=Fernandes Power][U]Kirks childhood:[/U]
Parented by an Irish man and Filipino woman, the father would regularly beat up Kirks mum... and therefore Kirk.

Kirk also had an abusive next door neighbour that raped him and his dog.

When Kirk took up guitar, he was offered the choice of giving up guitar and staying at home or sticking with it but leaving the house.

Guess what he chose? :thumb:

His on stage (and frequently off-stage) character seems a very timid, and rather camp one... this is true.
But hey, they have Hetfield and Ulrich to be the loud ones.

His demeanour and the fact that he doesnt like to be touched by people he doesnt know and trust very well probably came from his upbringing...

During Black album-ReLoad era, Kirk was quite a druggy.

He has been surfing* along with yoga and Lacto-Ovo Vegetarianism to help cleanse himself of all drugs and cravings... and as he said himself, (according to his girlfriend) "being a Lacto-Ovo makes my sperm taste better!"

:thumb: Nice Kirk...



*Rob is also an avid surfer and snowboarder and regularly surfs with Kirk... thats actually how Rob got to hear from Metallica, cuz Kirk knew him from surfing.



I am actually a fountain of knowledge, all hail me...[/QUOTE]
I'd say that was a crazy bit of knowledge from you, but your too busy saying it youself :lol:
But I love how Kirk performs, no one can copy him. Anyone can get up and do a James (Lower mike, bend knee's and neck when you sing, and constantly tilt your head while doing a greedy and evil smile) , Jason (Run around the stage and headbang like a crazy motherfuc[COLOR=White]ker[/COLOR]), Rob (Just take a sh[COLOR=White]it[/COLOR] on stage and headbang side to side istead of up and down) or Lars (Moon the crowd constantly, keep hitting cymbals etc). But KIRK, its just amazing how much of Kirk he puts into his performance and playing. They way he taps his foot during slow parts, sticks out his middle finger, constantly lean back and forward with his back, run around stage really fast (seriously, in live footage, one camera angle will have Kirk by Lars, but the next second on a different camera, hes headbanging away by James). And his face when he plays his solos.... So much of Kirks emotions go into his solo's and its a beaut to see them live while hes performing. And then there are times when Kirk is just funny (Solo with his a[COLOR=White]ss[/COLOR] in Live **** San Diego) and when he just head bangs. And he has his own way of headbanging also. His neck doesn't move, his whole body does. And he doesn't use his hair in headbanging like Jason or James. The good part of that was once he lost his hair, he didn't stop headbanging like James. And Kirk plays in such a way thats like hes challenging his fans as he looks around during songs. That guy is great. I could go on forever. In fact, if i wasn't so busy, i would.

(you'll notice I left Cliff out becaue thats a topic on its own)

[QUOTE=metal_milita]I'd say that was a crazy bit of knowledge from you, but your too busy saying it youself :lol:
But I love how Kirk performs, no one can copy him. Anyone can get up and do a James (Lower mike, bend knee's and neck when you sing, and constantly tilt your head while doing a greedy and evil smile) , Jason (Run around the stage and headbang like a crazy motherfuc[COLOR=White]ker[/COLOR]), Rob (Just take a **** on stage and headbang side to side istead of up and down) or Lars. But KIRK, its just amazing how much of Kirk he puts into his performance and playing. They way he taps his foot during slow parts, sticks out his middle finger, constantly lean back and forward with his back, run around stage really fast (seriously, in live footage, one **** will have Kirk by Lars, but the next second, hes headbanging away by James). And his face when he plays his solos.... So much of Kirks emotions go into his solo's and its a beaut to see them live while hes performing. And then there are times when Kirk is just funny (Solo with his a[COLOR=White]ss[/COLOR] in Live **** Sand Diego) and when he just head bangs. And he has his own way of headbanging also. His neck doesn't move, his whole body does. And he doesn't use his hair in headbanging like Jason or James. The good part of that was once he lost his hair, he didn't stop headbanging like James. And Kirk plays in such a way thats like hes challenging his fans as he looks around during songs. That guy is great. I could go on forever. In fact, if i wasn't so busy, i would.

(you'll notice I left Cliff out becaue thats a topic on its own)[/QUOTE]


No one can beat Cliff headbanging, well no one from Metallica at least :P
Nah man! Neither of them can beat their original selves headbanging, even Lars looked 'cool' when he had long hair!!! :P

Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :(

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :([/QUOTE]
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totally man i saw that too

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :([/QUOTE]
Hell yes! The guy was just a genius all around.

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :([/QUOTE]

He was amazing on stage. He had so much energy on stage

I agree

Rob- a gorilla, wild.
Jason- what a headbanger
Cliff- can't catagorize

I can't find Cliff Em All anywhere. Where can I get it?

[QUOTE=gocaps99]I can't find Cliff Em All anywhere. Where can I get it?[/QUOTE]

I don't know about legally, but there is a torrent.

Buy it!
One of the few things Metallica I'd say buy don't download.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]I can't find Cliff Em All anywhere. Where can I get it?[/QUOTE]
If you're looking to buy it, pretty much the only place you're going to be able to get it from is online. That's where I got my copy from. Two places to look:

[URL=http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=85364010629&userid=T28JKwyAjY&frm=0&itm=1]Barnes & Noble[/URL]
[URL=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305633177/qid=1108972400/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0536636-6702562?v=glance&s=dvd]Amazon.com[/URL]

what? you can buy it from HMV.

[QUOTE=BurtonChancellor]If you're looking to buy it, pretty much the only place you're going to be able to get it from is online. That's where I got my copy from. Two places to look:

[URL=http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=85364010629&userid=T28JKwyAjY&frm=0&itm=1]Barnes & Noble[/URL]
[URL=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305633177/qid=1108972400/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0536636-6702562?v=glance&s=dvd]Amazon.com[/URL][/QUOTE]

Ah ok. I've been looking around in stores and stuff. I'll check out the internet.

(But I'm about to buy a new amp, I don't think i'll be buying Cliff Em All anytime soon)

yeh hmv sell it, so do some other shops, online isnt the only place to get it

I got it from best buy. Yay best buy.

Cliff was the best bass man no one can ever replace it in my heart.

you guys do know that most of metallicas best songs were actually written and thought up by dave mustaine of megadeth right. if you dont believe me just listen to The four Horsemen and then listen to Megadeth - Mecanix. dave mustaine originally wrote that but metallica stole it so mustaine had to rewrite the words and intro but most of it is note for note (megadeths is faster and much much better though)

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]you guys do know that most of metallicas best songs were actually written and thought up by dave mustaine of megadeth right. if you dont believe me just listen to The four Horsemen and then listen to Megadeth - Mecanix. dave mustaine originally wrote that but metallica stole it so mustaine had to rewrite the words and intro but most of it is note for note (megadeths is faster and much much better though)[/QUOTE]
Metallica didn't steal it.. Mustaine wrote it while he was IN Metallica...
But yeah Mustaine writes some good songs, the best Metallica songs? Nah...

Yes, everyone in this thread is aware that Dave had a hand in writing some of their earlier material.
That they are Metallica's best songs is your opinion, not others.
The songs weren't stolen, Dave gave them permission to use them which is why his name appears on the writing credits.
The two versions of the song show how Dave and James had different ideas as to how it should go.

:lol: you really think hettfeild had anything to do with the writing of the four horsemen :lol: an example of hettfeilds writing is St. Anger. its pretty sad when your drummer is your main song writer, he doesn't write for a day and St. Anger is what comes out. and metallica sued dave mustaine for the writes to his songs and he finally just let them have the songs to avoid a court case. look up your facts metallica is a bunch of scumbags. :thumb:

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Yes, everyone in this thread is aware that Dave had a hand in writing some of their earlier material.
That they are Metallica's best songs is your opinion, not others.
The songs weren't stolen, Dave gave them permission to use them which is why his name appears on the writing credits.
The two versions of the song show how Dave and James had different ideas as to how it should go.[/QUOTE]
can't get enough of this guy, pure genius.