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Squirrel 06-25-2011 04:34 AM

Mornin' all.

fingers mccoy 06-25-2011 04:50 AM

taking a look at that solo guitar arrangement of pictures at an exhibition

pretty cool challenge, not as hard as i remember it being

Sad But True 06-25-2011 04:55 AM

Sup Squiz, Fingers?

Started my day with a brew and poached eggs on toast. Pretty much anything else is a bonus.

Isn't all of Pictures... really fucking long though? Or you just doing certain parts/movements?

fingers mccoy 06-25-2011 05:08 AM

it is all very long i probably won't actually learn the whole thing just read through it a couple of times

btw i got a 75 for my final recital, pretty good

feedback said 'an astonishing feat of memory'

Squirrel 06-25-2011 05:26 AM

Congrat man that's great. A mate of mine just got a 1st on his music course, think he got 76 or something as his average o_0.

I ha a brilliant cuppa this morning in my favourite mug. Just been reading some books on martial arts, looking to make a short vid of me and my trainer doing some cool stuff. Nothing fancy, just a bit of fun really.

Sad But True 06-25-2011 05:36 AM

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18552619]Congrat man that's great. A mate of mine just got a 1st on his music course, think he got 76 or something as his average o_0.

I ha a brilliant cuppa this morning in my favourite mug. Just been reading some books on martial arts, looking to make a short vid of me and my trainer doing some cool stuff. Nothing fancy, just a bit of fun really.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah weren't you into kickboxing and the likes?

I started karate again (last did it when I was about 13). Did Shuko-Kai before but now I'm doing Shotokan which is much more up my street, much more practical and aggressive. Did 5 belts in Shuko-Kai and I just tripled graded at my first grading for Shotokan so I'm pretty damn happy with that.

I had a gold standard brew in my Dark Side of the Moon mug and I felt like I could tackle the day. Then me and my old man replaced the air filter/generally frigged about with the Stag and now I'm going to watch some David Attenborough. Sound.

EDIT: Oh shit yes, well played Fingers. Although I'm still massively confused as to why you called it Jack Lyons when you uploaded it.

Squirrel 06-25-2011 05:41 AM

Yeah I did boxing at uni, I stopped for a bit though cause I got a pretty bad eye injury.

I got into MMA shortly after, I still watch it and love it but I prefer the grappling, ground game so I do Jiu Jitsu, Catch wrestling etc now.

I've never done Karate, I know next to nothing about it. One of the dues I hang round with, sorta my trainer, he's a 3rd dan BB in Taekwondo, was on the olympic team and stuff. Brilliant guy but capable of some incredible things.

Sad But True 06-25-2011 05:54 AM

I've always liked the idea of stuff like jiu jitsu and taekwondo but I never really saw the practical side of it. Yeah getting someone on the ground in a proper fight is pretty damn effective but I dunno, I think I'd prefer to be able to handle myself on my feet.

How does MMA work? I mean, is there a set style to it or do individual dojos decide which bits from which martial arts they use?

Squirrel 06-25-2011 06:20 AM

A long way back there used to be competitions of "Which martial art is better?", which was basically pitting people agaisnt each other in matches regardless of their background. So you had Muay Thai fighters taking on those that did Eskrima, people doing Savate and trying it out on Judoka etc. Any combination really.

Brazil way back and in recent history is known for its brutal fighting competitions called Vale tudo (free fighting) in which martial artists essentially were in no-holds barred fights, smae mentality of "which is better" but a lot closer to full-blown fighting as opposed to pitting martial art practices agaisnt each other and seeing how they match up.

UFC, PRIDE, DREAM etc are organisations that have evolved over time, building themselves up to where they are now. Watch the original UFC event and see Royce Gracie destroy clueless, one-dimensional odd men with his elite BJJ skills - fast forward now and see sold out 20,00 crowd events watching multi-talented multi-dimensional fighters in very well rounded competitive "combat".

You can enter an MMA comp with literally no knowledge of anything. You'll get chewed up and spat out in no time. You have to know as much as you can about everything you can. The main elements are striking (boxing, kickboxing, TKD, Muay Thai etc), grappling and clinch work (Jiu Jitsu, forms of wrestling etc), and ground game (Jiu Jitsu etc). Things like Judo arent hugely effective but some people have done very well with it. Karate is a no-no and is nigh on useless in MMA.

Some gyms definitely favour certain styles and approaches but they do train (for the most part) every facet of the game, they may well just excel at others. For example, team hammer house produces good oldschool styled wrestlers but they tend to suck off their back, on the ground in general, and really lack submission knowledge and defence. Chute box were known for high-end striking and producing incredibly wild aggressive fighters.

The wondeful thing is theres so many elements, fighters, styles etc that different weights, people, styles, fights etc are completely different. George St. Pierre is incredibly well rounded, a gifted athlete and takes a very mathmatical and cautious approach to fighting. Very gameplan oriented. Cain Velasquez is also very well rounded but is much more aggressive minded, likes to take the fight to his opponent and fights with a lot of intensity and pressure.

Long and short of it is, to be successful you need to excel at, or at the very least be comfortable, fighting every style that can be thrown at you. An elite level karate blackbelt is a wonderful accomplishment but a college wrestler would take them down, keep them down, and grind out a nasty beating on them.

If I could use any style in a fight I wouldnt pick Karate, and to be honest I wouldnt pick any martial art cause for most real life situations theyre useless. You need to know a real life fighting system such as Krav Maga for such situations.

SugarCoatedSour 06-25-2011 07:51 AM

you crazy joe rogan.

2 more heurs of work and I'm free to do nothing

Sad But True 06-25-2011 09:51 AM

Well, shit. That's a post. Good read mate, thanks.

TBH my main reason for doing karate is it keeps me active and I actually enjoy it. It may not be the most practical of things but I generally dislike violence and things like kick boxing just seem a little, I dunno, 'thuggish' to me. That's not a reflection on the people that do it, just an opinion. Karate's endgame seems to be control over your body and mind etc, with a practical element of being able to defend yourself, whereas the really aggressive styles' aim is to be good at fighting.

Squirrel 06-25-2011 12:17 PM

As a general rule they all share the same philosophy of control and whatnot, hence why theyre an art form. TKD, Eskrima, Pankration etc all have the ethos of striving to excel in your chosen art, but they all came about for different reasons - msot of which are to protect the indiginous peoples of the area they came from.

Kickboxing is a really watered down simplified construction of the modern era but I know what you mean, i've seen a lot of people do it cause they seem to like kicking things or having the tag of "being a kickboxer".

Sad But True 06-25-2011 12:59 PM

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18552789]

Kickboxing is a really watered down simplified construction of the modern era but I know what you mean, i've seen a lot of people do it cause they seem to like kicking things or having the tag of "being a kickboxer".[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for most people I've known who've done it.

I madez a new demo, czech it please.

[url]http://soundcloud.com/alter-eden/power-out[/url]

GottaPost 06-25-2011 01:44 PM

i dont mind kicking things if the situation calls fo rit

blockhead 06-25-2011 05:30 PM

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blockhead 06-26-2011 01:03 AM

wow this forum is more dead than most of mx

you guys have almost no community left and the people who are still here are pretty gay

On Sugar Hill 06-26-2011 01:56 AM

Hey fingers, where do you go? and what was your recital like? I just did mine last semester

blockhead 06-26-2011 01:56 AM

lol fingers mccoy

such a try hard fag

fingers mccoy 06-26-2011 03:19 AM

university of york. recital was half an hour of classical guitar

[url]http://soundcloud.com/niall-haviland/sets/jack-lyons-06-06-2011[/url]

blockhead, you try extremely hard at all times.

jaklyons 06-26-2011 04:54 AM

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18552623]Oh shit yes, well played Fingers. Although I'm still massively confused as to why you called it Jack Lyons when you uploaded it.[/QUOTE]

It's 'cos I'm an inspirational kinda guy, of course.

Sad But True 06-26-2011 08:37 AM

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18553500]

blockhead, you try extremely hard at all times.[/QUOTE]

I've noticed this. It's quite amusing.

Sup all? Hungover to balls. Pretty tame grand prix. But it's bloody glorious weather so I'm going to perch myself outside with my book.

blockhead 06-26-2011 11:49 AM

uhh how is typing "you're a faggot" trying hard

fingers mccoy 06-26-2011 12:02 PM

i didn't say that was a particularly strong example of your trying hard

Sad But True 06-26-2011 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=blockhead;18553638]uhh how is typing "you're a faggot" trying hard[/QUOTE]

I'd say it was the frequency of such posts.

blockhead 06-26-2011 01:14 PM

yeah that takes so much effort each time

Sad But True 06-26-2011 01:20 PM

More than I'd put in.

GottaPost 06-26-2011 01:29 PM

blockhead chill man

SugarCoatedSour 06-26-2011 04:16 PM

how futile, blockhead would post even if there was no one to troll on mx.

Just came back from watching Henderson-Kolk guitar duo, them boys know how to classical

fingers mccoy 06-26-2011 04:59 PM

what'd they play

Blue_Moon 06-26-2011 06:25 PM

Went to that festival in the end :| uber f'd now, jus back and ive exams in 10 hrs... oh lawwwwwwwwwd

excellent time none the less


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