I know, I was just helping you with your silly wording.

Okay, so Drowningman is definitely epic as hell, thanks Concubine.

= )

I'm wondering if there's anything like Emmure that's actually pulled off well. Like a meloidic metalcore band with really heavy breakdowns, but actually good.

EDIT: Drowningman is kind of like Contrived, but in a completely different genre.

i never listened to Emmure

when you say melodic metalcore, you mean stuff like Fordirelifesake, Shai Hulud?

I'm talking more metal-melodic metalcore. Like, Killswitch Engage type stuff, but I guess really heavy breakdowns instead of clean choruses. I just wanna know if a release of the sort exists outside of The Acacia Strain's second album that's actually good.

hmm i don't listen to that type of stuff so i can't help you

Yeah, it's a really gay style, but when it's done right, it's orgasmic, though I've only ever heard it done right once. The next closest thing would be Through The Eyes Of The Dead, I'd say, but they're too death metal.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15823172]Yeah, it's a really gay style, but when it's done right, it's orgasmic, though I've only ever heard it done right once. The next closest thing would be Through The Eyes Of The Dead, I'd say, but they're too death metal.[/QUOTE]

the newer TTEOTD? cause the old is more twords deathcore, with thier other vocalist

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15824695]the newer TTEOTD? cause the old is more twords deathcore, with thier other vocalist[/QUOTE]

TTEOTD is epic as crap. Their older release was better but the new one has some ridiculous stuff too. As Good As Dead is a must hear song. it's incredible.

[QUOTE=masscows;15820614]I knew what the song was about before I even heard it (as if the title isn't obvious enough). The lyrics are so good too.[/QUOTE]

I think it's because I have a friend named Giles and I just always thought it was funny that he had a song named after him when his name was so off the wall. But he's probably named for Giles Corey and I never made that connection either :P

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;15824817]TTEOTD is epic as crap. Their older release was better but the new one has some ridiculous stuff too. As Good As Dead is a must hear song. it's incredible.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't get why everyone likes them. I even saw them live and wasn't very impressed.

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;15824817]TTEOTD is epic as crap. Their older release was better but the new one has some ridiculous stuff too. As Good As Dead is a must hear song. it's incredible.[/QUOTE]

..so are you saying they have a few good songs but overall they're not that good?

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;15825366]I honestly don't get why everyone likes them. I even saw them live and wasn't very impressed.[/QUOTE]
I've seen TTEOTD at least 5 times, unfortunately never with Rich on guitar and once with Dayton on drums... all I can say is, up until they kicked out Anthony, their live show was the most incredible thing ever... I caught them on their first headlining tour (November 2006), got to scream with Anthony, got pulled on stage for Beneath Dying Skies, etc., then I saw them their next headlining tour (June 2007, with Nate) and it was the most monotonous garbage I've ever seen.

This is Through The Eyes Of The Dead:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=H8i1QRRukwQ[/url] (the second song is especially amazing)

This is not:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=cmPJl1lNLYU[/url]

Note the only member in common is the rhythm guitarist?

ill agree they were a much better live band with anthony as a vocalist, see i like nate's vocals better but he just doenst bring the ruckus like anthony did. damn shame...

Nate's growl's too grunty and his highs are too forced, and his mids are too forced, but Anthony never warmed up, so you never knew if his vocals would sound right, or if his voice would just go all over his range (examples: accidental pig squeals instead of low inhales, even more ball-lessly high screams).

Regardless, Nate's terrible but still has a career in music, while Anthony's going into the marines. Moral of the story: don't go see your best friend's band when your own band has a show scheduled the same night.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15825571]Nate's growl's too grunty and his highs are too forced, and his mids are too forced, but Anthony never warmed up, so you never knew if his vocals would sound right, or if his voice would just go all over his range (examples: accidental pig squeals instead of low inhales, even more ball-lessly high screams).[/QUOTE]

i actually enjoy his lows and mids but i agree with his highs they do feel a bit forced. i did enjoy anthony's a lot too though

nate johnson is such a bad vocalist...I might not care so much about his lack of range if their music wasn't so bland now though.[quote=bunit9488]he just doenst bring the ruckus like anthony did[/quote]is this a scene phrase or something? why do scene kids talk like hip hoppers?

I think it's in reference to As Blood Runs Black's one breakdown (which dummies fail to recognize as a Wu-Tang Clan reference in the first place).

its a ****ing wu phrase yo

bring the mutha ****ing ruckus