Ah right, I missed that. How long did he do X for?

Hahaha and that's so true

I had no idea he did so I'm not sure. I just assumed he didn't do anything but hey, I'm not in a position to judge :/

mhm

I just read in a bio of him that he used to smoke weed and do X in highschool, which I wouldn't doubt since he got kicked out of school for getting caught drunk there. Travis definately does drugs, and I'd be surprised if Mark does any since he quit drinking and smoking.

I dont think mark would at all.

tom, its proberbal, travis does.

I am in a posistion to judge, cause im sXe :evil: (sxe with drugs anyway)

theres no such thing as just sxe with drugs buttsecks

Ava are comming to Melbourne and I am not going.. But out of curiosity i thought i would check if mosh pit tickets are still availible. And yes they are 2 day after they went on sale. blink 182 sold out in less then 15 mins :) maybe this will give tom a hint where the true fans lie :).

Not really, if anything AVAs album sales would've shown him that. How come you aren't going?

[QUOTE=I<3Jess]theres no such thing as just sxe with drugs buttsecks[/QUOTE]
yeah i know :upset:

Thread is dead.

[QUOTE=TheBigMachine]Thread is dead.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, until the (+44) album is released, or AVA do something interesting.

like come to New Zealand. the [B]f[/B]uckers are coming so close, yet so far away :(. If I was rich I would just fly over to Oz and see them.

[QUOTE=poo-poo-pee-pee]Yeah, until the (+44) album is released, or [B]AVA do something interesting.[/B][/QUOTE]

Well, that much is unlikely.

Can't wait for +44.

[QUOTE=Schqwnbean]Well, that much is unlikely.

Can't wait for +44.[/QUOTE]
oh, burn!

I'm actually going to be able to buy the Plus 44 album. yay for money :)

[QUOTE=yourstruly]Not really, if anything AVAs album sales would've shown him that. How come you aren't going?[/QUOTE]

Lol i hate AvA. Its like Tom got a drum loop and a effect played it over and over then added some crappy cliche chords over the top.... ??? Its a insult to his talent... IMO!

His AvA work is good i think.

He didn't make much better stuff with Blink : /

Mark wrote a lot of the guitar riffs

[QUOTE]Its a insult to his talent[/QUOTE]what

talent?

heh

oh, burn!

[QUOTE=10571z]Lol i hate AvA. Its like Tom got a drum loop and a effect played it over and over then added some crappy cliche chords over the top.... ??? Its a insult to his talent... IMO![/QUOTE]

What are cliche chords?

power chords I guess?

meh

I think he means I, V, IV and iv chords. Just in different patterns.

Which is pretty much true.

The music is extremely average, but I think the message Tom is trying to get across is more important.

hahahaha

You mean the same message that the rest of the genre try and get out as well?

Generally doing it way better than ava in the process.

And that message is?

lol o noes girls dont like me

[QUOTE=I<3Jess]hahahaha

You mean the same message that the rest of the genre try and get out as well?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about that, because I don't know anything about modern pop punk or even listen to much modern pop punk. The message I got from AVA is that you should be happy and make everyday the best day of your life.

Seems like a sound message to me.


Comparable to The Wall. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=yourstruly]I'm not sure about that, because I don't know anything about modern pop punk or even listen to much modern pop punk. The message I got from AVA is that you should be happy and make everyday the best day of your life.[/QUOTE]

How is that possible when you're listening to crap like AVA?

[QUOTE=yourstruly]I'm not sure about that, because I don't know anything about modern pop punk or even listen to much modern pop punk. The message I got from AVA is that you should be happy and make everyday the best day of your life.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much the general message of pop-punk, both modern and old.

[QUOTE=Eliminator]How is that possible when you're listening to crap like AVA?[/QUOTE]how is what possible?