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guitarded_chuck 02-09-2004 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Hammet (not Hamment) indeed plays the harder and faster solo, but it's not better, Hetfield's solo is so much better.[/QUOTE]

Nah, his solo isn't better. Mainly because it is so easy. It was the first solo, besides Teen Spirit solo, that I ever learned.

sacrifice93.2 02-09-2004 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=NailHead]well, you learn something new everyday. i didn't know that he played that solo cause i thought he was doing the acoustic guitar part, huh?[/QUOTE]
Watch S&M. Also, if you use distortion, it's not hard to play it on an acoustic guitar.

superpeer 02-09-2004 01:53 PM

EDIT: to guitarded chuck

I know it's easy, but it's not because it's not complex, that it can't sound well. complexity does not necessarily make a good solo.
I like it better, In my humble opinion. :)

sacrifice93.2 02-09-2004 01:58 PM

Complexity can really become signature to a band though. Metallica's St. Anger sucked because it was far too simple. Compare it to the Black Album, And Justice For All, and Master of Puppets, and try to tell me St. Anger was good. You'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid, or pretty ****ing tone deaf to say it.

pants4sale 02-09-2004 02:39 PM

yo people what did you think when metallica released there cover album. i loved it personally but some people say its against some metal rules or something, what do u people think??????

guitarded_chuck 02-09-2004 02:49 PM

I personally like Garage Inc. The Misfits covers are awesome, along with Am I Evil? and Whiskey in the Jar. And I don't see why people don't like bands doing covers. They are just showing appreciation for other bands.

kreld 02-09-2004 05:04 PM

hey guys, just wanted to know, is the second acoutic guitar in the intro to To Live is to Die identical to the first and if not, could someone give me a good tab/guitar pro/powertab file of it?
thx

FoUrStRiNgFrEaK 02-09-2004 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=guitarded_chuck]I personally like Garage Inc. The Misfits covers are awesome, along with Am I Evil? and Whiskey in the Jar. And I don't see why people don't like bands doing covers. They are just showing appreciation for other bands.[/QUOTE]

turn the page is sweet as well

Metallicat 02-09-2004 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=sacrifice93.2]Complexity can really become signature to a band though. Metallica's St. Anger sucked because it was far too simple. Compare it to the Black Album, And Justice For All, and Master of Puppets, and try to tell me St. Anger was good. You'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid, or pretty ****ing tone deaf to say it.[/QUOTE]

So if i tell you that i like it and that i think it's a good cd then you're calling me stupid and tone deaf? whatever man. It's sad that the majority of people who don't like st. anger only dislike it because it was released by Metallica. If it was released by a newer band then people couldn't compare it to other cds from that band and say it sux compared to their older ones.

On another note- If you read the "Bands whos last albums sucked" thread you'll see that obviously Metallica isn't the only band that has released a dissapointing cd lately. It's just that everyone was expecting so much more out of Metallica because they have so much talent that they're not putting to use. I guess if it makes you feel better to call me ****ing stupid or ****ing tone deaf then go ahead, i'm not holding you back.

linkinpark1987 02-09-2004 07:43 PM

To whoever asked what a Ktulu is, I don't know but it came from the same book that James read called Dagon that gave him the idea for The Thing That Should Not Be. It is about people who are sailing on the Mediterranian and something unexpected happens.

Raijo 02-09-2004 07:50 PM

Okay okay that's enough idle speculation as to what the "The Call of the Ktulu" and "The Thing That Should Not Be" is about. I am now going to tell you, and unlike some others I've actually researched this.

[url]http://www.allmetallica.com/info/songinfo/thingy.html[/url]
The inspiration [for "The Thing That Should Not BE"]:
The song is based upon the short story "Shadow Over Innsmouth" by H.P. Lovecraft which has been written in 1936. "Shadow Over Innsmouth" was Lovecraft's sole story which has been released as a book when he was alive. His further short stories only appeared in his lifetime in a magazine called "Weird Tales".

The Cthulu (or the, "Ktulu," as Metallica called it) is a creature from the same story "The Thing That Should Not Be" is based on.

williwakeupdead 02-09-2004 09:21 PM

St. Anger sucked because there was a bunch of hype how there going back to there roots, and when you hear that you think oh better solos and riffs like Justice or Master OP, and then they release a piece of crap with no EQ and Trash can sounding drums with 0 solos, its a huge let down. If any other band released that CD would still suck, just like most bands today.

NoHero9 02-10-2004 10:57 AM

That was a pretty cool article raijo. do you got a link for that site?

or i guess ill type it in

NailHead 02-10-2004 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=williwakeupdead]St. Anger sucked because there was a bunch of hype how there going back to there roots, and when you hear that you think oh better solos and riffs like Justice or Master OP, and then they release a piece of crap with no EQ and Trash can sounding drums with 0 solos, its a huge let down. If any other band released that CD would still suck, just like most bands today.[/QUOTE]

yea, thats why, no ****, it's actually why. their roots lay in hardcore thrash, the next one better be better than St. Anger or I'm gonna give up on 'em

ZildjianDummer 02-10-2004 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=NailHead]yea, thats why, no ****, it's actually why. their roots lay in hardcore thrash, the next one better be better than St. Anger or I'm gonna give up on 'em[/QUOTE]

if their next album sucks, dont give up on them because there new stuff sucks. Chances are they arent going to make 6 or 7 more cd's, id say at the most they'd make 2 more cd's although i hope they make more bc im a huge metallica fan. Master of Puppets and AJFA are 2 of the best albums i've ever heard.

and by the wayw, im going to a metallica concet in omaha may 12 :naughty:

Kirk's Puppet 02-11-2004 03:28 AM

Any ideas where I can download Metallica's Smoke on the Water Live cover? I downloaded the intro in WinMX but the queue is just too long now, the intro is really **** cool. I can't find it on LimeWire, I'm not using Kazaa...

superpeer 02-11-2004 03:30 PM

*Bump*

guitarded_chuck 02-11-2004 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=Kirk's Puppet]Any ideas where I can download Metallica's Smoke on the Water Live cover? I downloaded the intro in WinMX but the queue is just too long now, the intro is really **** cool. I can't find it on LimeWire, I'm not using Kazaa...[/QUOTE]

If you don't use Kazaa, you won't find it, seriously.

Six_Stringed_Demon 02-12-2004 10:53 AM

Bump........And i heard 'The Thing That Should Not Be" is based on an underwater beast called Kracken, probably on that link............

van_halen_is_god 02-12-2004 01:17 PM

my favorite metallica solo by far is nothing else matters. its so simple yet so good.... what do u guys think... o yeah and why the **** wernt there any guitar solos on the new album ... that one pissed me off

when_im_gone 02-12-2004 01:38 PM

Kirks puppet try using winmx thats where i found it.

sacrifice93.2 02-12-2004 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=Metallicat]So if i tell you that i like it and that i think it's a good cd then you're calling me stupid and tone deaf? whatever man. It's sad that the majority of people who don't like st. anger only dislike it because it was released by Metallica. If it was released by a newer band then people couldn't compare it to other cds from that band and say it sux compared to their older ones.

On another note- If you read the "Bands whos last albums sucked" thread you'll see that obviously Metallica isn't the only band that has released a dissapointing cd lately. It's just that everyone was expecting so much more out of Metallica because they have so much talent that they're not putting to use. I guess if it makes you feel better to call me ****ing stupid or ****ing tone deaf then go ahead, i'm not holding you back.[/QUOTE]
If Megadeth or Anthrax released St. Anger, I'd be pretty pissed off! Obviously you dont' know what the f*ck you're talking about. In fact, any band that released St. Anger would have made me angry. Metallica is not a band that releases albums with just 1 good song on them. They're way too good for that. I love Metallica, and they're one of the greatest bands of all time. I definately agree with that. Summer Sanitarium 2003 was a great Metallica show, but they had poor opening acts, excluding Deftones and MuDvAyNe, who ****ing rock. I don't think they're losing it, I just think they had a faux pa (false step) with St. Anger. If I haven't gotten my point across on that yet, you people are nuts.

Agamemnon 02-13-2004 01:20 AM

Favourite Metallica Solo and Song
 
Allright here's a question for everyone.

What is your favourite Metallica song to play?

and

What do you think the easiest Metallica solo to play is?

:wave:

Joeeddstealschickens 02-13-2004 07:12 AM

At the moment I like playing Fuel and Ktulu,and the easiest solo is the opener to Fade to Black.

steve6991 02-13-2004 07:17 AM

[QUOTE=sacrifice93.2]If Megadeth or Anthrax released St. Anger, I'd be pretty pissed off! Obviously you dont' know what the f*ck you're talking about. In fact, any band that released St. Anger would have made me angry. Metallica is not a band that releases albums with just 1 good song on them. They're way too good for that. I love Metallica, and they're one of the greatest bands of all time. I definately agree with that. Summer Sanitarium 2003 was a great Metallica show, but they had poor opening acts, excluding Deftones and MuDvAyNe, who ****ing rock. I don't think they're losing it, I just think they had a faux pa (false step) with St. Anger. If I haven't gotten my point across on that yet, you people are nuts.[/QUOTE]
mate i totally agree with you. something about st anger that makes me wanna be sick. the drums are awfully tinny, the vocals and lyrics are ****house and the guitaring and bass is tuned down linking park chord crap :smash: :smash: :smash:

borisdablade 02-13-2004 08:10 AM

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For ****s sake drop the st anger issue. The album flopped GET OVER IT. It was a necessary step, they gained a brilliant bass player out of it, proved they are still amazing live and can now focus on creating better music. They hadnt been in the studio for 6 years, let alone been a cohesive unit. That impacts on the song writing process. The next will be better, for if you dont like st anger, DONT F UCKING LISTEN TO IT. For Fu cks sake stop filling perfectly good post space with incesent whinging about what is done is done.

On a lighter note, does anyone think the solo in disposable heroes sounds really proggy??? Like DT or something?

Disillusioned-X 02-13-2004 08:51 AM

Well first off st anger i know isnt metallica's best album but you have to consider what metallica went through.
James went sober
Jason left
Bob rock played bass
Kirk injured for some parts of it and also came down from cocaine
Just to name a few

NoHero9 02-13-2004 10:33 AM

firstly, I agree with boris, secondly, I didn't even know kirk had a cocaine problem, and Thirdly, as of now, my favorite metallica songs to play are The thing that should not be, Master of Puppets(who doesnt love playing that?), Leper Messiah, the call of Ktulu, and theres a couple others i enjoy playing, but I dont wanna toot my own horn.

JamesHetfieldJR 02-13-2004 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)[/QUOTE]


A few other good ones are:
eye of the beholder :thumb:
nothing else matters
call of the ktulu
ride the lightning

NailHead 02-13-2004 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=Disillusioned-X]
Kirk injured for some parts of it and also came down from cocaine
[/QUOTE]

i didn't know that Kirk Hammet was addicted to cocaine. I thought it was just the drinking. I know that they all had to do something about that, even though James was the worst about it.

borisdablade 02-14-2004 12:45 AM

oh and sacrifice the reason your havtn got your point across is because you have no musical knowledge what so ever to support it. It seems everytime i turn around theres another thread with you whinging about st anger with nothing to support your claims. Stop being a bloody sheep, hating st anger earns you no browny points here.

Agamemnon 02-14-2004 03:57 AM

I reckon Sanitarium is a pretty cool song to play and the first solo for that is pretty easy. Also if you have two guitars For Whom The Bell Tolls is a machine song to play.

dreadlord 02-14-2004 04:53 AM

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)[/QUOTE]

What About Seek Abnd Deystroy And Die Die My Darling Whicky In A Jar The Are Good Songs Also

dreadlord 02-14-2004 05:25 AM

i play guitar and i love metallica but i cant get the right destition sound to come out especley playing master of pupperts can any one help me with my problem?

SlipKnoT_Glacius 02-14-2004 06:01 AM

favourite song to play are ... Nothing Else matters, Unforgiven II, Master of Puppets (not the solo! I ain't that good yet!), Enter Sandman, Ktulu ...

easiest solo to pull off is Nothing else Matters

Squirrel 02-14-2004 07:11 AM

I think the intro solo in *One* is their easiest.

Currently playing Damage Inc' and fight fire with fire.

xtreme_skatah 02-14-2004 09:15 PM

My favourite song to play is AJFA

Agamemnon 02-15-2004 01:41 AM

[QUOTE=SlipKnoT_Glacius]favourite song to play are ... Nothing Else matters, Unforgiven II, Master of Puppets (not the solo! I ain't that good yet!), Enter Sandman, Ktulu ...

easiest solo to pull off is Nothing else Matters[/QUOTE]


Which solo do you play, the electric one or the acoustic one?

rootboundapollo 02-15-2004 01:47 AM

why does it seem that alot of people dont like ...And Justice for all as much?

rootboundapollo 02-15-2004 01:48 AM

1400...and to give it meaning...i like metallica


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