[QUOTE=JamesXKillXyou]hey guys! I play the new age Hardcore/Metal scene based stuff. But I do like to kick back with some solid rock rythms as well.

Im fond of Zildj. What can you point me towards? Im wanting something that gives a nice heavy sound for it but is fast too. I was looking at the fast crashes and the projective A series. For a Ride I would like more of a Crash/ride. Ive heard A series medium rides are nice. And for Hi hats Im kinda lost.

thx! I dont want obnoxiously loud cymbals I want something that will cut through with definition but still maintain a tough sound for the hxc/metal.[/QUOTE]

Every single drummer I see who plays in a hardcore band have cracked Z customs, how ****ign hard do they hit them?

A Rock Crash, Z Custom Medium Crash, A Custom Medium Crash.

jamesXkillXyou- also look into sabian, crashes-AA Mediums/rocks, HH Mediums/rocks,
RIDE- AA medium, 20" AA craash ride, AAX Stage ride, hats AAX stage hats

Crash VS Crash-Ride?
 

Hi guys! Can anybody explain to me the differences between a ride cymbal and a crash-ride?

I'm currently experimenting with using a normal 17" crash instead of the ride cymbal but the sound always ends up as a continous crashing sound (ok i'm not very good at putting this into words) so I'm wondering if getting a crash-ride would be the solution :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=geeseks]Hi guys! Can anybody explain to me the differences between a ride cymbal and a crash-ride?

I'm currently experimenting with using a normal 17" crash instead of the ride cymbal but the sound always ends up as a continous crashing sound (ok i'm not very good at putting this into words) so I'm wondering if getting a crash-ride would be the solution :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

crash=a crash and a crash/ride= a big *** cymbal that isnt worth gettign because usually they are so freakin heavy an the sound from them sucks. its supposed to be light enough to crash on and heavy enoughj to ride on but it sucks,

Yeha crash rides are not relaly worth getting, if you want a cymbal you can both ride and crash on, get a ride no hevier than medium weight, the edges usally have a pretty decent crash sound and you can stil ride on them.

Or you could get Rudes....I don't think they come in crashes.

Ok, so I just got my new cymbals, but I need another pair of crashes. I want them warm and dark, to contrast with my AAXplosions. I was thinking 18" sig Saturation crash, and a 18" HHX stage crash. Would these two blend well together? And what thickness is the Saturation crash?

doh. thanks for the tip. luckily i haven't bought a crash ride yet :D

k...umm i was looking and i cant decide between the zildjian a custom pack(20" medium ride, 16" medium-thin crash, and 14" hats) or the a classic pack(16"medium-thin crash, 20" medium ride, and 14" new beat hi hats)....or should i just get an entirely different cymbal pack?(...yea i dont want to get em one by one, id prefer to get a pack...)

^^ the classic pack looks good. But I would suggest a AAX stage pack.

And seriously reconsider the "pack" thing. If its because of the price, you can get the same sizes and the same line for the same price as the pack

k ill look into the AAX stage pack...thnx for the help

o and if i do buy my cymbals one at a time...any suggestions? (only looking for hats a crash and a ride right now)

Depends on what sound you want.
I suggest AAXcelerator hats, or AAX fast hats.
AAXplosion crashes. Really versatile. You can use them to play softer stuff, but they also explode when you lay into them a bit.
The stage ride is really nice. Also the AA medium ride

Can someone give me a list of about 5 decent rides for rock/alternative please. Im going to Birmingham Drum Centre and im going to test alot of them, but I want a few tips on ones you have and like/dont like from personal experience. :thumb:

Help with set up please.

Currently I have:

14" AAX Stage Hats
18" Vault Crash
19" AAXplosion Crash
19" Paragon China
22" Paragon Ride

I am looking to buy 2 more crashes and 2 splashes(Sabians), i know im a brand whore.

For the Crashes I was looking at getting a 17" Vault and a 17" AAXplosion.

For the splashes I wanted to choose between the 8 and 10 paragons, 10 and 12 evolutions, and the 9 and 11 max splashes.

If anyone could offer some insight on making some key cymbal choices it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[QUOTE=BradDawg]Help with set up please.

Currently I have:

14" AAX Stage Hats
18" Vault Crash
19" AAXplosion Crash
19" Paragon China
22" Paragon Ride

I am looking to buy 2 more crashes and 2 splashes(Sabians), i know im a brand whore.

For the Crashes I was looking at getting a 17" Vault and a 17" AAXplosion.

For the splashes I wanted to choose between the 8 and 10 paragons, 10 and 12 evolutions, and the 9 and 11 max splashes.

If anyone could offer some insight on making some key cymbal choices it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.[/QUOTE]


try a 17inch stage crash.

[QUOTE=BradDawg]Help with set up please.

Currently I have:

14" AAX Stage Hats
18" Vault Crash
19" AAXplosion Crash
19" Paragon China
22" Paragon Ride

I am looking to buy 2 more crashes and 2 splashes(Sabians), i know im a brand whore.

For the Crashes I was looking at getting a 17" Vault and a 17" AAXplosion.

For the splashes I wanted to choose between the 8 and 10 paragons, 10 and 12 evolutions, and the 9 and 11 max splashes.

If anyone could offer some insight on making some key cymbal choices it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

you need some dark sounds in there....17" HHX Stage Crash and an 18" Hand Hammered Medium Crash :thumb:

splashes? 10" and 12" AAX Splashes...best next thing to the Max Splashes....and cheaper.

What sound characteristics do the Sabian AAX series cymbals have? I might get the performance pack but I'm not sure about the sound.

AAX series are bright cymbals. they are loud in all volumes of music, but can also be played in softer music and still sound really good. they dont get distorted in high volumes....(my fav feature). They are a versatile cymbal. Id recommend them. Especially the stage crash.

basicially, they are a little more focused and controllable than the AA's, but the AA's will have a more energetic sound to them.

the zxt trashformer.. any of you get a chance to use it or hear it in person? thanks

[QUOTE=Joseph_Yamaha_SCA]the zxt trashformer.. any of you get a chance to use it or hear it in person? thanks[/QUOTE]

jsut pick up a metal garbage lid from home depot or something.

^^ not very good on it's own IMO. Sounds kinda bland. You should stack it on a crash. And I've heard bad stories about them cracking prematurely.

the fact that they are not ound would make me thing zildjian should rethink the idea.

you can find trashy round cymbals anywhere....i beleive the unroundedness allows for uneven dispersal of vibration which would cause cracking.

Whats a nice pingy ride in the AA or AAX line?

AA Rock ride would be the best choice....other than that, my AAX Dry ride is fairly pingy.

Ultimate ping? AAX Metal ride...but its as versatile as a Z Custom

Ya I still want versitle. What about the medium-heavy ride you suggested in my thread. How does that sound?

Hey does anybody know how much guitar center buys cymbals for i have a set of B8's that i would like to get rid of. Thanks

[QUOTE=drumsgetchicks]Ya I still want versitle. What about the medium-heavy ride you suggested in my thread. How does that sound?[/QUOTE]

it'll be a bit more defined and tighter than the medium ride, but will sound a bit more pleasant than the rock ride.

[quote]Hey does anybody know how much guitar center buys cymbals for i have a set of B8's that i would like to get rid of. Thanks[/quote]

they probably will, but dont expect much form them...you'd be better off selling privately.

[QUOTE=ZaknafeinLudwig]Hey does anybody know how much guitar center buys cymbals for i have a set of B8's that i would like to get rid of. Thanks[/QUOTE]

wont get much for them. you might as well keep them or sell them but not to a place that buys them, youll get jipped. put them on ebay or something. or just put up a classifieds add.

^^^

yes...thanks for pretty much repeating what i said.

^^ Dont GC give 2$ an inch? That might be more than he could get selling on ebay.

Sup felluz...In the near future I will be able to have both my kits up, my DW collector and Mapex Oroin series classic, teh only prob being I only have one set of cymbals...my Paistes. Now I fairly picky when it comes to cymbals...I usually don't don't like sabians...but I am really interested in thier Evolution series with weckl. I own the ozone crash and the effeckz crash...I've played a few of the crashes and really really liked them. Now before I have to drive for god knows how many hours to find a place I can test out a few others...

Have any of you any experience with them, hats, splashes, rides and such, are they alll sonically the same to the crashes??? thanks in advance.

They are good cymbals. Not my style, but they sound pretty nice.

If you like Paiste, look into Meinl. If I'm not mistaken, they resemble Paiste in sound.

the evos all revolve around that concept of VERY sensitve respose meshed with warm tones....having said that, they are all quite thin...save for the hats, which is your normal medium/heavy pairing.

also, it wouldnt be a bad idea to look into the rest of the HHX line too.

hello, i'm upgrading my drum kit in the next few weeks and chances are that the new one will be a shell pack so i am going to have to start fresh with the cymbals, i've been looking at several "packs" of hi-hats and crash/ride combos. Can anyone recommend a good one to go for?
thanks
nango

[QUOTE=nangostino]hello, i'm upgrading my drum kit in the next few weeks and chances are that the new one will be a shell pack so i am going to have to start fresh with the cymbals, i've been looking at several "packs" of hi-hats and crash/ride combos. Can anyone recommend a good one to go for?
thanks
nango[/QUOTE]

what's you budget?
if you have cymbals i'd suggest saving and not buying packs, but thats me

i would not go with a crash/ride cymbal, you're better off with a seperate crash and ride

budget please?

If he's looking at packs w/ crash-rides, his budget it probably low.

Anyway, I'll suggest K Constanioples.