Too many people in here do not appreciate the greatness of classic crossover thrash. 1986 and the guy was blasting like that!

[fastfingers]

:angry:

1985, I thought. Some of the earliest blast beats in that there song. Great lyrics, too.

You guys should use the site 'yousendit' it would make it much easier for situations like this, I have been trying to find Ayreon - Day 20 but I can't. However if we were using yousendit, the file would be accessible immediately,

Just a thought.

You send it has been used.
Proof:
[QUOTE=Bt]I can host it for you.

EDIT: Here you go;

[url]http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EZGXPK65MBC212VG1G9FAIW4B[/url][/QUOTE]

I am much more upset that someone did not hear the genius of Kadenzza than the fact that crossover thrash has bad production.

[QUOTE='munky magik'] You send it has been used. [/QUOTE]

Thats all well and good, but it isn't being used now when people need it, is it?

[QUOTE=XyleM]Thats all well and good, but it isn't being used now when people need it, is it?[/QUOTE]
No, I was just informing you that this idea has been suggested annd used before.

But it wasn't made mandatory or strongly recommended like the idea behind my post.

It can't be made mandatory because not everyone can use/will want to use it.
And your post hardly came across as a strong recommendation.

Well re-reading it, it really doesn't lol :thumb:

Oh well. It was an idea to make things easier, but hey if you say it isn't gonna work I guess it won't.

It'll work for some people, but others don't have the time or connection speed to be able to upload the songs. Others prefer that their music is difficult to find.
Well, I say others. I mean Dargon.

I'm putting Ayreon on Yousendit right now so stay tuned for your dibs.

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]I am much more upset that someone did not hear the genius of Kadenzza than the fact that crossover thrash has bad production.[/QUOTE]

I leeched that track, rather good I must say.

And yousentit just won't work for me.

[url]http://s3.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MQVU850S0DQZ1HZ6Q503F0011[/url]

day 20

[u] Ayreon - Day Twenty: Confrontation [/u]

Never heard of these guys before, nor have I heard much like it before. I suppose this is what this thread was intended for though eh?

It begins with a very soft, effect laden guitar riff, very very simple. Two vocalist contrast well at the beginning. Very abruptly into a heavy part of the song, all instuments seem very simple yet effective.

Again back to the opening riff, with the vocalists contrasting and using the 'call and answer' technique. Similarly as to the intro it progressed abruptly into the heavier part, this time their is a female singer and it complements this part perfectly.

This part progresses into a new riff. The song has a very space age sound to it, like when Homer goes into the 3-D land :thumb: All the vocalists are extremly talented, and have a great range. There is a new riff again softer... This continues for a bit and then it is distorted and a more powerful male voice is used, singing the same words as the singer before.

Again back to the beginning riff. Again the call and answer effect is used. Again into the heavier part, this song is starting to get very repeditive.

Whoa, nice little vocal display/solo from the female vocalist, her voice is really full and defined.

The tempo picks up although it is the same chord progression it still is keeping me intersted due to a male vocalist screaming and the female vocalist still utilising her voice. Whoa double kick? Wasn't expecting that. Snare hits increasing, to a very once again abrupt stop where the song is basically completed.

The song reminded me very much of Queen, although the style is different, the vocals harmonising with each other and contrasting just seem make me think of them. The instruments although very simplistic did their job, the guitarist must have used many effects to achieve the sound that he had going.

As expected the thing that carried this song were the vocals. I was, as you all probably can tell, blown away by the female vocalist, her voice was literally awesome to me.

[B]Rating:[/B] 7/10

There was two things that this song lacked, a guitar solo and versatility. The song was too long to have the same structure, and little change in feel and lyrics until the last minute of the song.

Having said that I still really enjoyed the song, thanks fast fingers for uploading it.

My recommendations:

Audioslave - Getaway Car (Very relaxed song, Soft Rock) ([url]http://s3.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2QCS9AH9CAX490PANVZRK46D67[/url])
Deftones - Passenger (ft. Maynard) (Rock) ([url]http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=129GY5MBU47ER2J75HRVKYV24W[/url])
Incubus - Sick Sad Little World (Incubus Rock) [url]http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NZADS8KEHGPL0M9OR9CHLT0YA[/url]
Mudvayne - Internal Primates Forever (Metal)[url]http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MOQ8QVWJ04912JYHNW3D18H90[/url]

Done and Done :thumb:

Thanks. Dibs.

By the way there are three different female voices in this song, but I guess you're talking about Irene Jansen, the power female vocalist.

Okay, this won't be my first experience with Mudvayne, but I wasn't particularly impressed with what I heard before, so this will be my first time really paying attention to them.
[b]Mudvayne - Internal Primates Forever[/b] - 4:25

Starts off with pretty slow, odd riffing. Drums and (noticeably) bass come in around 0:10, along with vocals. Sounds like he's saying "jump". Verse starts, and I can see how they've gotten their reputation as 'weird'. The whole thing sounds "bitty". The vocals are mostly relatively clean (little growling or anything), but I can't really understand what he's saying. At least, not while typing. The guitar and drums both sound a bit too all-over-the-place for their own good, and it's kind of annoying. I like the bass though, it's fairly prominent and has a good sound.

Sorry, this is going to be a really bad review. There just doesn't seem to be much I can say. The guitars, despite the jerkiness, definitely sound like nu metal, but they're offset by that bass, which is really quite good.

This bit I like more; about 1:41 it's like the gaps between those riffs have been filled in, and there's a more flowing riff, which I like a whole lot more.

Total change of pace from about 2:30 onwards, but I can't keep my mind focused enough to figure out in what way. There's less of the stop-start jerkiness which I disliked before, though it's still present. The song ends with the vocalist (and backing vocals) repeating the title of the song (almost chanting it, but not quietly).

Well, that was weird. I didn't like the jerky, too-stop-start-for-it's-own-good part that the guitar and drums took for most of the song. The bass however, was really good. The vocalist kind of veered between good and bad.

Not sure what to give it. I think a cautious 7/10, and I'l probably have to listen to this more and check them out further.

[b]Songs;[/b]
[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DO6KCVJ14UXZ13OEEEN7KJW4Ul=]North - untitled[/url] (relaxed, slightly funky Alt/Indie fodder by a ridiculously good, unsigned college-age band)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=367HOOI9JEQVE1QNCE1MOFY0TN]Nonpoint - Double Stakked[/url] (nu metal)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ATR27HZU9ORW28AC2R1IGQB3B]Mr Bungle - Girls of ****[/url] (funky experimental stuff. Will probably be an advantage to have some knowledge of po[font=verdana]r[/font]n)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FGVQJZZQJ6OX0OTRX7R8SEFDM]Anternicy - Holder of the Eye[/url] (self-financed heavy metal)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05V44QN5L8RTV3ATQKHVS7304M]Mr Lunt - Cheeseburger[/url] (a touching love song, about cheeseburgers)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AJ424C49M1DK20VPO68P8D47V]Einsturzende Neubauten - Ende Neu[/url] (industrial/experimental)

Copy-pasted from Forced Listening;
That Neubauten track is a live version, with an air compressor solo at the beginning. It's a great piece of music, but unfortunately a lot of it's appeal also lies in it's lyrics, which are in German, and other aspects. The song is very carefully written, both in lyrics and structure, and becomes much greater than it already is if you know it's circumstances and such...not much can be done about that though, so this is just my futile attempt at explaining the inexplicable.

^There were originally only going to be three to choose from, but then MX froze, so I uploaded some more while waiting.

dibs

[b]Aternicy - Holder of the Eye[/b]

Starts off with some snare work, then adds in guitar, then bass. I like the way it builds up like that, then it comes into the main riff in the song. Double bass and lots of tom work drives the song well coming into the verse, and amazingly, vocals don't come in until 2 and a half minutes in. You never get bored the whole time though. Lots of change ups, more so than you see in many instrumental pieces in fact. This has tons of riffs which is great because there are enough repeated ones to establish structure, but at the same time there is a lot to discover whilst listening.

Production is not fantastic, and the most noticeable issue is that during the guitar solo, the rhythm guitar is louder than the lead and I had trouble hearing it. It sounded fairly good, very Thrash influenced I think, but it was really tough to pick it out, which is a shame.

Musically, this piece is pretty complex, there is a lot to it and it takes several listens to absorb it all which is very nice, because so many bands are easy to give one listen and discard. All the musicians seem good at what they do, the vocals are perhaps less talented than the rest of the group imo. Sort of reminds me of Megadeth's vocals, which I am not very into either. Chorus was weird first listen because I thought it was being said in a different language, their pronunciation of the title is very interesting and made me think Middle Eastern. No doubt hard to find, but I'll definitely see if I can't find some more.

9/10 due to subpar production and not liking the vocalist a ton, though he fit with the band pretty well.

Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe - Themes (Progressive Rock)
38th Parallel - Higher Ground (Hard Rock)
Project 86 - Pipe Dream (Metal of some type, maybe Nu?)
Mod Flanders Conspiracy - Such is the Wrath of the Thrice Angered Manatee (Hardcore ish)
Blindside - Teddy Bear (Hardcore)

^their vocalist used to post here on MX, which is how I found out about them. If you go to the Audio Arena and search, there should be a thread linking to several of their songs up for download; there used to be, anyway. Their website used to be [url]www.anternicy1.com[/url], I think, but I don't think it's there any more. The vocalist left a while ago, and they may have split up.

Also, could you upload one, or more, of your suggestions (if you have time and connection speed to spare)? :)

I've never used yousendit before...how do I use it (it's asking for an email?)...I'll definitely look into that though...

It's actually pretty easy to use. The basic idea is that you upload whatever file you like temporarily to their bit of free webspace. The email it's asking for is the email of whoever you're wanting to give the file to; it sends an email to that address saying "Hello, someone's sent you this file, hosted at *link*".

I always just put my own email address in, though, because once the file's uploaded, you (the person uploading it) are given a link anyway, for convenience's sake. Which you can then hand out to friends/post on MX/etc until it gets taken down again.

[url=http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0TMIE46DSNTCN36U85ULX9C27A]ABWH - Themes[/url]
[url=http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M4D3M8PCDWPZ2R5NIH6ZOIREN]38th Parallel - Higher Ground[/url]
[url=http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1KGK5J07IYW5O34LE7I01YCAOP]Project 86 - Pipe Dream[/url]
[url=http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XLOSIUNCHQRF3N1OGCQIXAIMQ]Mod Flanders Conspiracy - Such is...[/url]
[url=http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13DRMHROV6B3228BZRET4A7DJH]Blindside - Teddy Bear[/url]

Note: Most of these are m4a, not mp3.

Okay, dibs. We'll see if I can play m4as.

EDIT: It appears I can't, so I've started downloading the only mp3 file there.

Not heard or heard of these guys before.
[b]38th Parallel - Higher Ground[/b] - 3:47

Starts off with a really cool rock riff. I mean, I really like this riff. I'm not sure if I'll like it after a few dozen times hearing it, but for now, I like it. It's got some acoustic guitar, I think, enhancing it by flitting around the edges of the main heavier riff.

Vocals come in, and I immediately somewhat like the song less. The guy, whoever he is, doesn't have a particularly bad voice, but I just think hard rock either needs someone with a really good voice (talented singer, I mean) or a gruff male voice. Not to say that's exclusive (Young Heart Attack, for example, fall into neither category, and their vocals are one of my favourite things about them), but I just want to get the point of why I don't like them so much across.

Still, it's not faltered the song too badly. The music I still quite like. The chorus is good, and has that opening riff backing it, even if, as a whole, it does feel a little safe, if you know what I mean. There's nothing to challenge you going on here, but for all that it's done well enough.

The structure of the song is impeccably normal. Intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus. It ends by fading out.

A solid 7/10 It's a reasonably respectable and perfectly enjoyable piece of easy-to-listen-to rock. Plus it had that riff.

[b]Songs;[/b]
[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DO6KCVJ14UXZ13OEEEN7KJW4Ul=]North - untitled[/url] (relaxed, slightly funky Alt/Indie fodder by a ridiculously good, unsigned college-age band)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=367HOOI9JEQVE1QNCE1MOFY0TN]Nonpoint - Double Stakked[/url] (nu metal)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ATR27HZU9ORW28AC2R1IGQB3B]Mr Bungle - Girls of P*rn[/url] (funky experimental stuff. Will probably be a slight advantage to have some knowledge of po[font=verdana]r[/font]n)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05V44QN5L8RTV3ATQKHVS7304M]Mr Lunt - Cheeseburger[/url] (a touching love song, about cheeseburgers)

[url=http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AJ424C49M1DK20VPO68P8D47V]Einsturzende Neubauten - Ende Neu[/url] (industrial/experimental)

Copy-pasted from Forced Listening;
That Neubauten track is a live version, with an air compressor solo at the beginning. It's a great piece of music, but unfortunately a lot of it's appeal also lies in it's lyrics, which are in German, and other aspects. The song is very carefully written, both in lyrics and structure, and becomes much greater than it already is if you know it's circumstances and such...not much can be done about that though, so this is just my futile attempt at explaining the inexplicable.

I cant belive you didnt like second heartbeat...
Oh well.

I wonder which version he heard. They had a version on a hopelessly devoted to you compilation first and then they re-recorded it for waking the fallen. They were surprisingly different.

I had the Hopelessly Devoted to You one :S

So my review is kinda defunct I guess...

Well it says its the Hopelessly Devoted to You one in WinAMP.

Oh right, i have the 'Waking The Fallen' one.

Second Heartbeat is awesome. If you like A7X, try All That Remains - The Deepest Grey, or Unearth - The Great Dividers.

Diib

gar, the North song link has expired.. not to worry, got another in que

Sorry man, didn't see your edit until just now. Here's another upload of the North song, unless you're too far into doing another already;

[url]http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HMOTQIRIS32F20H0NF44HCV3N[/url]

Thanks.. but its nearly done .. I'll try and get the North song now while I can.

eh, may as well use this post for the review as well.. saving one for a sick kid in Antarctica or something

[b]Nonpoint - Double Stakked[/b]

Seems a little surprising for Bartender to recommend nu-metal... so I'm investigating.

A simple guitar riff opens proceedings, and some fairly straightforward drumming follows quickly. There is other percussion too, its a bit like the slap bass sound of Korn, but it sounds better here as actual percussion.

It drops off to just bass and drums, semi-rapped vocals, some screamy one-worders.
Some prominent slap bass, then a heavy chorus about "I got that funky feeling".. nothing really imressive so far.

Same again. But the second chorus slows right down at the end of it, and it goes to an almost reggae feel. This reminds me of an Ochre song, the very same thing happens in the middle. The drums, bass and percussion, carries the rhythm while the guitars are sparse and somewhat atmospheric. I'm liking this bit.

The vocalist is back and he manages to sound a bit like Maynard here, whereas before he wasn't really anything standout (in either good or bad ways).

It gets heavier after a bit, but keeps the slow feel. Then it stops but for a few drum fills. I thought it would have ended up going faster, but it's gone back to the soft reggae bit again. Lots of guitar harmonics, a little guitar solo too, cool.

It fades out on this slow part, which isn't what I expected. I thought it would go heavy, and faster again.. but I don't mind when music goes against what's expected.

For nu-metal.. the first half was typical I guess, and I didn't really think much of it. The second half was good for me, I like that stuff, even when it went heavy for a bit, it was still better than the first half. However, the 2 parts didn't seem to match well and may as well have been 2 different songs. The instrument playing was above average, and it was fairly decent, nothing super though.

7.9/10

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[b]Weddings Parties Anything - A Tale They Won't Believe[/b] - punkish sea-shanty about cannibalism. 7 mins

[b]Broken Social Scene - Looks Just Like The Sun[/b] - laid back, lo-fi indie (up to 3:40 is all you need/should review)

[b]Down - Landing On The Mountains Of Meggido[/b] - haunting acoustic southern rock

[b]Alarum - Reconditioned[/b] - technical jazz/death metal

[b]Anathema - Shroud Of Frost[/b] - melodic doom/death. 7.5 minutes

[b]Darren Hanlon - Falling Aeroplanes[/b] - acoustic.. folk?

[b]Marcy Playground - Rebel Sodville[/b] - renaissance themed rock

[b]Delays - Wanderlust[/b] - feel-good britpop

[b]Wumpscut - Black Death (French Concept)[/b] - heavy industrial/ambient techno

[b]Hot Rubber Glove - Mud Elephant[/b] - trancey dub

If you can find Blueser on IRC - Undernet.. I am able to send, though I proably can't resume. Maybe I won't be on if this big grey cloud turns to a storm...
So at least one of the 10 songs should be easy to find

dubs

[b]Broken Social Scene - Looks Just Like the Sun[/b]

So I've heard of but never heard of Broken Social Scene. Don't know what to expect.

Begins with a jazzy sounding classical guitar part and drums. Pretty chilled out. Then vocals which are nice and some bass guitar which is simple but soothing. Some noises are twittering around in the back and add to the song.

Then there is a sample saying "Keep going" and leads into a slightly different part but everything is the same for the most part. This song slowly builds up but more by adding more parts, not increasing intensity. There is even a little guitar solo which is pretty cool. One of those ones you should learn for just fooling around with some freinds who don't play instruments. This song is really cool. The vocalist reminds me of someone but I don't know who. There is a choir in the background now.

I like the little spoken commands as though it were a jam whcih it well may be based on the repetition. It's good repetition though because of the layering.

Post 3:40 - I still like this part. I think it is really cool and chilled out but it is sad sounding. Then some loud noise interrupts and then a clicking. Then the song is over.

I'll find more.
8.5/10

Kadenzza - Monohoke - God of Worm
[url]http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=186K440I5DGUL13B8N8D3LDD69[/url]

If you need another song to review, just ask, I'll post some Old Man Gloom.

the clicking is the intro to the next track, I just lump those sounds after 3:40 in with that... yep. I think those spoken commands were actually recorded while playing, its just so lo-fi that they didnt bother to take them out of the final mix.

ok, I'll do this one too.. soon

[b]Kadenzza - Mononoke - God Of Worm[/b]

A creepy march riff with synth strings and industrial guts opens the proceedings.
They stop for some half speed blast with some black metalish vocals, sounds somewhat mechanical. Sometimes the blasting is fast.. sometimes not. It seems random as to what they choose to play To get it out... I don't like when it's just blasting away with little to no melody, it bothers me.

There are many slight variations of each of the 2 musical ideas, and they are changing rather rapidly.

At 1:30, it goes more melodic, there's a wild keyboard solo, doubled by guitar?
At 2:30 fingerpicked guitar comes in, very soft here, after a while of this.. soft strings, and the sound of birds... some vocal samples.. how very contrasting to what came first in this song. I'm liking it, but dreading what I thinks going to happen when this bit's finished...

After about 2 mins it slows down... yep.. heres heavy industrial sounding marchy riff, a new one. but theres synth strings, even if dissonant, it's good to hear something with a distinct Hz reading, some bell sounds too and some seething bass hissing.. and back to halfspeed blasts and black metal vocal mechanisms. Goes between the fast and slow blasts often, there is much more keyboard use here too.

A short pause, "I am _____, god of worm" dunno what it says, but it's not Mononoke.
Then probably the heaviest and fastest bit yet comes in, but its not that long, it ends soon after with a few sparse, creepy keyboarded sounds taking it out.


Hmm.. no, its not the type of thing I go for, weirdly interesting though. The second time in FL today I don't see how the contrasting part fits, but it was a good breather from the intense bits. Those heavy bits weren't so bad by the end, maybe I got used to them, maybe it's because there were those keyboard sounds along with them at that point.

Drums like that will probably always annoy me, but melodies, even dissonant stuff, smooths them right out.. I cant really decide, its kind of a musical shock to me.. but it wasn't all that bad after all...
6.4/10?


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[b]Weddings Parties Anything - A Tale They Won't Believe[/b] - punkish sea-shanty about cannibalism. 7 mins
[b]Down - Landing On The Mountains Of Meggido[/b] - haunting acoustic southern rock
[b]Alarum - Reconditioned[/b] - technical jazz/death metal
[b]Anathema - Shroud Of Frost[/b] - melodic doom/death. 7.5 minutes
[b]Darren Hanlon - Falling Aeroplanes[/b] - acoustic.. folk?
[b]Marcy Playground - Rebel Sodville[/b] - renaissance themed rock
[b]Delays - Wanderlust[/b] - feel-good britpop
[b]Wumpscut - Black Death (French Concept)[/b] - heavy industrial/ambient techno
[b]Hot Rubber Glove - Mud Elephant[/b] - trancey dub, instrumental

If you can find Blueser on IRC - Undernet.. I am able to send, though I proably can't resume.