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ZaaR 03-15-2006 06:44 PM

you'll need a dragon in there to take out lance

but vileplume would be the perfect filler that i was looking for.

Pazz 03-15-2006 06:45 PM

I think if my Charizard is strong enough, Lance will be a breeze.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]I really like Pidgeot and I kinda rely on him to use fly. Hitmonlee and Hotmonchan, I forgot about them. I will get one of them. Abra can be a sonuvabitch to catch though.[/QUOTE]

You have Articuno on your team, teach him fly. I remember Charizard being able to learn it too. Don't keep a pokemon on your main team just because of an HM, that's very stupid.

Who cares if Abra is hard to catch? Spend two minutes to get a Drowzy, and train him enough to learn Hypnosis (if he doesn't already know it when you catch him). Go where you can get Abras, hypnotize him, and then catch him. You can use Sleep Powder with butterfree if you already have him.

Everyone, Alakazam is faster than Pidgeot. I'll use Kadabra's stats because most are too lazy to trade.

Pidgeot:
Base Stats: HP 83/Attack 80/Defense 75/[B]Speed 91/Sp Att 70[/B]/Sp Def 70

Kadabra:
Base Stats: HP 40/Attack 35/Defense 30/[B]Speed 105/Sp Att 120[/B]/Sp Def 70

Kadabra can kill anyone with psychic because of his increadible Special Attack.

Retards.

Pazz 03-15-2006 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]You have Articuno on your team, teach him fly. I remember Charizard being able to learn it too. Don't keep a pokemon on your main team just because of an HM, that's very stupid.

Who cares if Abra is hard to catch? Spend two minutes to get a Drowzy, and train him enough to learn Hypnosis (if he doesn't already know it when you catch him). Go where you can get Abras, hypnotize him, and then catch him. You can use Sleep Powder with butterfree if you already have him.

Everyone, Alakazam is faster than Pidgeot. I'll use Kadabra's stats because most are too lazy to trade.

Pidgeot:
Base Stats: HP 83/Attack 80/Defense 75/[B]Speed 91/Sp Att 70[/B]/Sp Def 70

Kadabra:
Base Stats: HP 40/Attack 35/Defense 30/[B]Speed 105/Sp Att 120[/B]/Sp Def 70

Kadabra can kill anyone with psychic because of his increadible Special Attack.

Retards.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if I will be taking Articumo along. I like my Pidgeot and if I was going to get a Kadabra, I would want to be able to evolve it to Alakazam.

Pirate Satellite 03-15-2006 06:48 PM

I can't tell anyone this in real life, so I've come here.

I just found out that I'm not going to be a teenage Dad. I have never been happier in my whole life. I was so scared.

B 03-15-2006 06:49 PM

thats pretty intense dude

Pazz 03-15-2006 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=Pirate Satellite]I can't tell anyone this in real life, so I've come here.

I just found out that I'm not going to be a teenage Dad. I have never been happier in my whole life. I was so scared.[/QUOTE]

Even though I have never seen you post before, that's good to hear.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=poisontheflag]nah, get hitmon-something (the punching guy) because than you can get fire punch, ice punch, electric punch, and one other really strong punching attack.[/quote]

The [elemental] punches are not fighting moves, they're elemental moves. Therefore, having a fighting pokemon is useless if you're just going to use him to fill in for other pokemon's jobs. Hitmonlee learns High Jump Kick and what not, which are the best fighting attacks you can get. He can learn the different punches from TMs, too, if you want to be a tool like that.

[quote]your line-up should be: charizard, lapras, kadabra/haunter, raichu/zapdos, dragonite (start with a dratini), and something else as a filler, or a last resort.[/QUOTE]

Dratini takes too long to train if you want him to be usefull.

Use Articuno against dragon pokemon, remember, ice is strong against dragon.

Hep Kat 03-15-2006 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=Pirate Satellite]I can't tell anyone this in real life, so I've come here.

I just found out that I'm not going to be a teenage Dad. I have never been happier in my whole life. I was so scared.[/QUOTE]

Well, that's good.


Several lives have been saved from being f[SIZE="2"]u[/SIZE]cked up.

The universe is a better place :chug:

ZaaR 03-15-2006 06:51 PM

charizard will get destroyed by lance's water attacks. you need either a lapras, or a dragonite if you stand a chance. even with the lapras it will be hard because of dragonite's thunder.

B 03-15-2006 06:52 PM

Jon is like the only person who knows what he's talking about. The rest of you suck at pokemon

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]I'm not sure if I will be taking Articumo along. I like my Pidgeot and if I was going to get a Kadabra, I would want to be able to evolve it to Alakazam.[/QUOTE]

Why? There's not much of a point to it. Even without Alakazam, Kadabra is still much better than Pidgeot.
[QUOTE]
I can't tell anyone this in real life, so I've come here.

I just found out that I'm not going to be a teenage Dad. I have never been happier in my whole life. I was so scared.[/QUOTE]
Get her in the butt next time so that there's no question.

B 03-15-2006 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=poisontheflag]charizard will get destroyed by lance's water attacks. you need either a lapras, or a dragonite if you stand a chance. even with the lapras it will be hard because of dragonite's thunder.[/QUOTE]
If oyu aren't a tool and you're pokemon are strong enough it doesn't matter. I remember I could one hit ko like every single pokemon on the whole elite four team. Just use atricuno against lance and you dont need anyone else at all.

ZaaR 03-15-2006 06:54 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]The [elemental] punches are not fighting moves, they're elemental moves. Therefore, having a fighting pokemon is useless if you're just going to use him to fill in for other pokemon's jobs. Hitmonlee learns High Jump Kick and what not, which are the best fighting attacks you can get. He can learn the different punches from TMs, too, if you want to be a tool like that.



Dratini takes too long to train if you want him to be usefull.

Use Articuno against dragon pokemon, remember, ice is strong against dragon.[/QUOTE]

yes, but lance has a wide variety of attacks. you won't be safe with any pokemon you use against him. he's got thunder, and he's got his dragon attacks if you try to counter him with a dragon pokemon.

[QUOTE]If oyu aren't a tool and you're pokemon are strong enough it doesn't matter. I remember I could one hit ko like every single pokemon on the whole elite four team. Just use atricuno against lance and you dont need anyone else at all.[/QUOTE]

you don't have alot of time by the time you catch articuno until the time you battle the elite four. you're not going to have many trainers to battle it against, which means you have to either fight wild pokemon, or keep dying against the elite four over and over again until your pokemon are at a high level.

Hep Kat 03-15-2006 06:55 PM

We're kind of over-thinking this.

You can beat the elite four with any Pokemon, provided they're at an adequate level...

Pazz 03-15-2006 06:56 PM

I don't plan on taking a Dragonite with me. I should be fine with who I will have.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=poisontheflag]charizard will get destroyed by lance's water attacks. you need either a lapras, or a dragonite if you stand a chance. even with the lapras it will be hard because of dragonite's thunder.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]
Dratini takes too long to train if you want him to be usefull.

Use Articuno against dragon pokemon, remember, ice is strong against dragon.[/QUOTE]

Seriously. Plus, if Lance uses water attacks against Articuno, he wont be very effective because of use.

Any self respecting Articuno can kill Dragonite with one Blizzard. Plus, lance is stupid, so he will likely use Outrage or some other dragon attack against you before he uses thunder. He's probably use Full Restore and waste a turn, too.

Articuno:
Base Stats: HP 90/Attack 85/[B]Defense 100/Speed 85/Sp Att 95/Sp Def 125
[/B]
Lapras:
Base Stats: HP 130/Attack 85/[B]Defense 80/Speed 60/Sp Att 85/Sp Def 95[/B]

Articuno has more defense, so he can take outrage better than Lapras. Articuno has higher speed, so he'll attack before Dragonite. He has a higher Special attack, so he'll kill Dragonite faster, and he has higher special defense, so he'll survive Thunder much easier.

[QUOTE]Jon is like the only person who knows what he's talking about. The rest of you suck at pokemon[/QUOTE]

Seriously.

Hep Kat 03-15-2006 06:57 PM

You'll be fine no matter what you bring along.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 07:01 PM

[QUOTE=poisontheflag]keep dying against the elite four over and over again until your pokemon are at a high level.[/QUOTE]

This is the best way to train. Just make sure you spend all of your money on TMs and healing potions before hand, because you lose money each time you die.

Another good idea: Use Exp share. Put your pokemon that is strongest against the first trainer (I haven't played that game in years, I don't remember which it is), and then the pokemon that you want to train. Only those two.

Murder the first trainer, and your second pokemon will get half the EXP. Way faster than anything else you can do.

Pazz 03-15-2006 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Another good idea: Use Exp share. Put your pokemon that is strongest against the first trainer (I haven't played that game in years, I don't remember which it is), and then the pokemon that you want to train. Only those two.

Murder the first trainer, and your second pokemon will get half the EXP. Way faster than anything else you can do.[/QUOTE]

I remember using that all the time. But until I can get it, I usually send out a weak pokemon, retreat it and put out a strong pokemon that can take a hit.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 07:05 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]I remember using that all the time. But until I can get it, I usually send out a weak pokemon, retreat it and put out a strong pokemon that can take a hit.[/QUOTE]

That's called Piggy-backing. When I get a Garydos (sp), that's usually how I train my magic carp.

It's okay, but it wastes a turn. In the later games this is a terrible techinque because the move Persuit will **** it up.

Pazz 03-15-2006 07:06 PM

I usually only do it until I get the EXP share, which I forget where I get that. Don't you get it from Oak's aide?

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]I usually only do it until I get the EXP share, which I forget where I get that. Don't you get it from Oak's aide?[/QUOTE]

Exp Share -
Found: East of Fuschia(must have 50 pkmn in pokedox and talk to the prof aide
in the second floor of the transfer building)

Pazz 03-15-2006 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Exp Share -
Found: East of Fuschia(must have 50 pkmn in pokedox and talk to the prof aide
in the second floor of the transfer building)[/QUOTE]

Thought so. Not to sure if I will have 50 pokemon though.:p I will have to catch some for the hell of it.

Hep Kat 03-15-2006 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]I remember using that all the time. But until I can get it, I usually send out a weak pokemon, retreat it and put out a strong pokemon that can take a hit.[/QUOTE]

That's how I've always done it.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]Thought so. Not to sure if I will have 50 pokemon though.:p I will have to catch some for the hell of it.[/QUOTE]

Just go back to the first town and go around and catch anything you haven't before. That way you just need a bunch of great balls and you can catch them in one move.

Pazz 03-15-2006 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=Rouge Poet]That's how I've always done it.[/QUOTE]

I've been training my Pikachu for 17 levels like that. As soon as it learns a decent lightning move, I will stop. It's level 22 now.

BridgeToSolace 03-15-2006 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Pazz]I've been training my Pikachu for 17 levels like that. As soon as it learns a decent lightning move, I will stop. It's level 22 now.[/QUOTE]

Four more levels for thunderbolt omg!

Pazz 03-15-2006 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Just go back to the first town and go around and catch anything you haven't before. That way you just need a bunch of great balls and you can catch them in one move.[/QUOTE]

Great idea.

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Four more levels for thunderbolt omg![/quote]

The internet said as soon as Pikachu learns Thunder I should evolve it to Raichu.

Hep Kat 03-15-2006 07:16 PM

I never evolve my Pikachus.


It's a matter of principle.


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