Hello L&R. :wave:

Well, my uncle is dead, and the funeral is the 23rd, and his ex-wife is wanting my grandma and her sisters to help pay for it. one is on social security, one on disability, and one is barely making it by.


Btw, My uncle = grandma's brother, so is he a granduncle?

whoa bass dude.... :(

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]anyways i completely disagree that male dominance is innate. i dont wanna discuss it here or now, maybe later.[/QUOTE]
*that, not hat :p

You may disagree, but it's truth. Guys are like that by nature. Can't really do anything about it...

I have already cried my tears over him, and I know he would have wanted us to be happy. He was the guy who gave me most of the dirty jokes i know. I love him, and I wish I had known him better.

edit: read some of my other posts in here on page 31 if you want to know more about the situation.

linky = [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442593&page=31[/url]

[QUOTE=Wizard.]*that, not hat :p

You may disagree, but it's truth. Guys are like that by nature. Can't really do anything about it...[/QUOTE]

are you kidding? men were born to dominate women? how can you know what is natural and what is not? for starters, what about homosexual men??? you dont know what is truth, let's just stop this here.

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]are you kidding? men were born to dominate women? how can you know what is natural and what is not? for starters, what about homosexual men??? you dont know what is truth, let's just stop this here.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not that we are meant to dominate. It's that we have the batural instinct to be possessive and protective over women, and anything else we care about. It has nothing to do with certain roles of the genders or anything.

It's all stuff you learn in basic psychology. :p

Both of you shut up because both sides of the argument here are painfully stupid. Take it to a new thread or IM it.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]No, it's not that we are meant to dominate. It's that we have the batural instinct to be possessive and protective over women, and anything else we care about. It has nothing to do with certain roles of the genders or anything.

It's all stuff you learn in basic psychology. :p[/QUOTE]
you're stupid though


getting jealous over this type of thing is not a "alpha" quality. (to use use style of terminology). its a sign of insecurity if anything.


a girl giving a guy a phone number doesn't mean anything really.

Well, it's officially over with Sarah.

I called her and told her that when we're friends, we don't have stupid stuff to argue over like ONE MONTH anniversaries, so maybe we should go back to that.

Well Mitch, you did the right thing.

I hope so.
I'm talking to Pam as we speak.

/double post

Anyway, I forgot to mention that it was late last night that we broke up.

I think I'm gonna get with Pamela.

So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too

[QUOTE=Master guitarist123]So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too[/QUOTE]

Not to point out the painfully obvious, but just talk to her. It's that simple. If you don't have the balls to talk to her then you need to move on.

[QUOTE=Master guitarist123]So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too[/QUOTE]
There's no question to it. You need to talk to her.

[QUOTE=Master guitarist123]So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too[/QUOTE]
I know everyone's saying "talk to her," and to a certain extent I agree with them... but I also know it's not that simple, is it? It's a shame when people move on and it sounds as though she has moved on from you; not because she doesn't like you or because you've done anything to upset her, she's just doing what she's doing. So, if you feel you can talk to her, by all means do so. If not, then I'm afraid you need to move on as well chap. It's not going to happen overnight and you're not going to forget her. But that's not the point. There will come a time, perhaps in a few months, when you find you're not too bothered about it anymore. It will bother you if you think about it too much but you'll stop thinking about it, and it will stop bothering you. Time heals most wounds.

I was in a band with a very nice girl a couple of years ago. That band fell apart and she quit on me, but she never told me why. (Probably something to do with me, but that's another story...) I've never asked her why but I've always wondered, and as she has never spoken to me since (apart from once when she was pissed but I don't count that,) and I've therefore never had an answer, it's always remained in my mind. But it doesn't bother me too much anymore. I'll probably never speak to her again, so there's no point thinking about her. I've got other things to think about...

Well by typing all that about her I've basically just contradicted everything I said, but my point is this: If you move on, the pain you're feeling now WILL go away.

What is wrong with girls?

A good friend of mine, who I also have a massive crush on, has a boyfriend. Now, her boyfriend is a loser. Stuck in a dead end job, crap money, and has no plans to better himself. He is also a drug addict, smoking crap all the time. The other day was her birthday. He didn’t get her anything or take her anywhere. We all went out for a drink, and he was so stoned and drunk he couldn’t even stand. She was so upset. She is always telling me how much she hates him doing drugs, and they never do anything, and how she always has to make the effort. He is so wrong for her. She is an amazing woman and deserves so much better. It hurts me to see her put through this, but the thing I can’t understand is that she won’t leave him. Love has blinded her and she can’t see that there is so much better out there. She knows I don’t like him, but I haven’t told her that she should end it with him. She would say it’s none of my business. But I have told her she deserves better. Why can’t she see he is bad?

So again, what is wrong with girls?

[QUOTE=Jim Hull]What is wrong with girls?

A good friend of mine, who I also have a massive crush on, has a boyfriend. Now, her boyfriend is a loser. Stuck in a dead end job, crap money, and has no plans to better himself. He is also a drug addict, smoking crap all the time. The other day was her birthday. He didn’t get her anything or take her anywhere. We all went out for a drink, and he was so stoned and drunk he couldn’t even stand. She was so upset. She is always telling me how much she hates him doing drugs, and they never do anything, and how she always has to make the effort. He is so wrong for her. She is an amazing woman and deserves so much better. It hurts me to see her put through this, but the thing I can’t understand is that she won’t leave him. Love has blinded her and she can’t see that there is so much better out there. She knows I don’t like him, but I haven’t told her that she should end it with him. She would say it’s none of my business. But I have told her she deserves better. Why can’t she see he is bad?

So again, what is wrong with girls?[/QUOTE]
A lot of girls are like that.

They think they can change the guy. But everyone else knows they can't.

It's dumb, and has happened ot me multiple times.

[QUOTE=Jim Hull]What is wrong with girls?

A good friend of mine, who I also have a massive crush on, has a boyfriend. Now, her boyfriend is a loser. Stuck in a dead end job, crap money, and has no plans to better himself. He is also a drug addict, smoking crap all the time. The other day was her birthday. He didn’t get her anything or take her anywhere. We all went out for a drink, and he was so stoned and drunk he couldn’t even stand. She was so upset. She is always telling me how much she hates him doing drugs, and they never do anything, and how she always has to make the effort. He is so wrong for her. She is an amazing woman and deserves so much better. It hurts me to see her put through this, but the thing I can’t understand is that she won’t leave him. Love has blinded her and she can’t see that there is so much better out there. She knows I don’t like him, but I haven’t told her that she should end it with him. She would say it’s none of my business. But I have told her she deserves better. Why can’t she see he is bad?

So again, what is wrong with girls?[/QUOTE]
I dont't know man. I think... just as a complete shot in the dark, she may want to help him more than change him. Think about it; if she leaves this guy, he will have nothing. Then again, she's hardly anything to him now if half of what you've just told us is true.

Unfortunately, however much this upsets you, it is ultimately her own problem. The best I think you can do is to just, er, wait on the sidelines, so to speak. If and when she finally decides she's had enough, you need to be there for her. She'll thank you for that. But for now, all you can do is watch and wait.

[QUOTE=El Krunk]Not to point out the painfully obvious, but just talk to her. It's that simple. If you don't have the balls to talk to her then you need to move on.[/QUOTE]

What's up, Jared?

Okay, so I am now with Pamela.
Congratulate me.
:chug:

Congratulations! That didn't take long!

[QUOTE=Tillius]Okay, so I am now with Pamela.
Congratulate me.
:chug:[/QUOTE]

Cheers, dood.

I wonder what little miss Sarah will have to say about that.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]What's up, Jared?[/QUOTE]

Not a lot.

You?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Cheers, dood.

I wonder what little miss Sarah will have to say about that.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't care less what little miss Sarah has to say about it.
The irony in it is that it was THROUGH Sarah, WHILE we were going out, that I found out Pamela even liked me in the first place.

[QUOTE=El Krunk]Not a lot.

You?[/QUOTE]

Just chattin' you up on AIM.

[QUOTE=Tillius]I couldn't care less what little miss Sarah has to say about it.
The irony in it is that it was THROUGH Sarah, WHILE we were going out, that I found out Pamela even liked me in the first place.[/QUOTE]

Well, just remember that all bets are off and all girlfriends are dumped when you turn 18. <3

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Well, just remember that all bets are off and all girlfriends are dumped when you turn 18. <3[/QUOTE]
Indeed, but I still have to have somebody to fall back on in case we don't work out, ya know.:p

[QUOTE=Tillius]Okay, so I am now with Pamela.
Congratulate me.
:chug:[/QUOTE]

Er, wow. Congratulations/How the hell did that happen so quickly.

[QUOTE=Jom]Er, wow. Congratulations/How the hell did that happen so quickly.[/QUOTE]

Mitch picks up phone:

Mitch: Hey, Pamela. Wanna get cozy?
Pamela: Yesyesyesyesyesyesyes.

Simple.

BTW, you're SUBassist in the parallel universe. I'm matthew24.

[QUOTE=Jim Hull]So again, what is wrong with girls?[/QUOTE]

There's nothing wrong with women per se. Women are every bit as flawed as men. That's how the world works.

But I think the question you should be asking is not, "What's wrong with her?" No, you should be asking, "Do I really want to get involved?"

More often than not, people who get involved with someone as f[size=2]u[/size]cked up as her boyfriend have more than a few toys in the attic themselves. She's operating under the delusion that she is Beauty and he is the Beast. She can tame this burn out of a junkie and mold him into Prince Charming. And despite multiple slaps in the face by reality, she has dug her heels in and won't admit that it's time to kick his [size=2]a[/size]ss to the curb.

Do you know what I would do in that situation? Tell her to fix her problem instead of complaining to me about it day in and day out.

"Just dump him for god's sake!"
"It's none of your business."
"You're right. It's not. So I'm going to ask you to stop dumping it in my lap. Grow up and deal with the problem yourself, because I'm tired of being part of your little soap opera."

I know it sounds harsh, but you really need to get it through to her that unless she can show the impetus in herself to affect some change in her own life instead of somebody else's, you are not going to participate in this gratuitous drama. You don't need something like that in your life to drag you down.

In fact, forget about dating her while you're at it. This girl has to work out her own issues first. Go flirt with a few other women and see where it goes.

Bumped just in case anyone needs this whilst we're up and running...