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bucket 12-31-2004 04:15 PM

[url]www.opeth.com[/url]
It has a link to the official one at the bottom of the page.

Veiw in fullscreen or it won't show up.

opeth_oasis 12-31-2004 06:10 PM

if you carefully read the lyrics in blackwater park and deliverance, there are small concepts, not as clear as MAYH and SL but still there. For example deliverance tells of a man who murders a women by drowning her in the sea and the guilt and emotions he feels. Read the lyrics in deliverance and a fair judgement, that should give you a fair idea.

Blackwater park tells of a disease and the characters close escape from death, The "Leper" Affinity tells of obtaining the disease, whilst Bleak tells of the pain and suffering the character faces. Harvest faintly continues the concept with lyrics such as "Halo of death all i see is departure, mourners lament but its me whos the martyr"
Drapery falls also contains conceptual lyrics such as "Please remedy my confusion
And thrust me back to the day" and "Pull me down again And guide me into pain". In Dirge for November there are lyrics such as "The omen showed, took me away
Preparations are done, this can't last". The Funeral Portrait contains conceptual lyrics like "I'm greeting my downward fall Leaving the throes to others" and finally Blackwater Park is pretty much all conceptual lyrics, talking about the path to death.

This is just how i felt the album concepts went, they are not exactly clear but you can get a faint idea about what they are about.

metallica bass101 666 12-31-2004 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]This is a very belated response, but he named his daughter Melinda. Maybe thats the reason?[/QUOTE]
thats exactly why and tis is kool how finaly they have a good thread about a good band i love opeth , i personaly own blackwater park and ****ation and my band plays alot fo there songs , awesome band even the producer in the dvd says that even fi u dont like metal ull love opeth just for how great musicians they are.

CaptainWaits 12-31-2004 06:41 PM

I love the riff in "Master Apprentice", but that's about it.......I think their drummer over-uses his double-pedal

Cardboard Headgear 12-31-2004 07:03 PM

To Opeth Oasis:
Blackwater Park isn't a concept album in the way that you put it, ie there is no story connecting the songs to eachother. I could try and explain some stuff if you like, but I'm about to go to work (on New Years :() so it'll have to wait.

opeth_oasis 12-31-2004 07:12 PM

read at the end, thats how I as an individual felt about the albums, you are probably right though, there isnt really a concept, thanks for always correcting me though, you improve my knowledge

Kaiwaz 12-31-2004 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Just so you know, that's a quote from Voltaire, not a Family Guy episode.[/QUOTE]




I am well aware of that and thanks for trying to get technical with me :thumb: And I could of been like everyone else and put his name under that quote...I didn't feel like it. But you see, I took that quote from a Family Guy episode, and Peter Griffin [I]did[/I] say that so whats the difference?

And to whoever was talking about Opeth's AntiChristianLyrics...who cares if Opeth has anti-christian lyrics, have you watched TV lately? Id rather listen to slightly retarded chipmukns with down syndrome fight over a torn paper bag at 4 a.m. then watch any of that RAP/realityTV/fake hollywood drama bull****.



Post Script: FTW










"I like cookies"
-Flynn-

Gibbers3095 12-31-2004 07:54 PM

Does anyone know of any bands out there that have the same type of sound as Opeth? I've heard Novembre was similar, but I haven't heard any of their material.

opeth_oasis 12-31-2004 08:28 PM

but opeth DON'T have antichristian lyrics so theres nothing to care or worry about and bands that sound like opeth, ummm if you find the right ayreon song you have a similarity

Grey Incision 12-31-2004 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=Animosity_62]I love the riff in "Master Apprentice", but that's about it.......I think their drummer over-uses his double-pedal[/QUOTE]

no way, have you listened to their stuff? I will admit that on Deliverance, Lopez did go crazy on the drumming, but he did it with style, listen to an album like Still Life, where there isn't a great deal of double-kick action going on. Listen to Blackwater Park, same deal. MAYH is the only other album where he could've over-used it, but IMO, over-usage of double kick isn't bad, especially when you have class anf style about it :thumb:

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

Kafkastolemyslippers 12-31-2004 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]

And to whoever was talking about Opeth's AntiChristianLyrics...who cares if Opeth has anti-christian lyrics, have you watched TV lately? Id rather listen to slightly retarded chipmukns with down syndrome fight over a torn paper bag at 4 a.m. then watch any of that RAP/realityTV/fake hollywood drama bull****.


[/QUOTE]

:lol: funny way to say it.

But no one was saying it in a bad way like " I like Opeth less because they may or may not have some anti-christian themes in their lyrics". But their lyrics are very well-crafted and contain the same range of emotion as the music itself, and there is no reason not to talk about the lyrical themes therein.

opeth_oasis 01-01-2005 04:37 AM

a very true statement indeed :thumb:

Bertovo 01-01-2005 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]To Opeth Oasis:
Blackwater Park isn't a concept album in the way that you put it, ie there is no story connecting the songs to eachother. I could try and explain some stuff if you like, but I'm about to go to work (on New Years :() so it'll have to wait.[/QUOTE]


Please do tell.

I have examed these lyrics for what seems to be decades and haven't drawn any conclusions yet :/

bball_1523 01-02-2005 09:47 PM

do any of you have any opeth bootleg mp3s and videos?

opeth_oasis 01-02-2005 10:05 PM

[QUOTE]Please do tell.

I have examed these lyrics for what seems to be decades and haven't drawn any conclusions yet :/[/QUOTE]

It's how I felt about the album, some people can agree some not but this is the way it felt to me. Im not the only one, check this link out [url]http://www.opethnet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20[/url] :)

Grey Incision 01-03-2005 01:24 AM

[url]http://www.metalrefuge.com/interviews/opeth.html[/url]

how awesome is that, in that interview, mikael says he would love to tour with TOOL, that would ****ing rock

opeth_oasis 01-03-2005 01:37 AM

i reckon lol it better happen

bball_1523 01-03-2005 01:44 AM

that would be sweet, he even said metallica.

I wouldn't mind seeing them open for these bands. I'm definitely down for their next tour.

Grey Incision 01-03-2005 01:56 AM

i would cross the earth twice just to see a Tool and Opeth concert

opeth_oasis 01-03-2005 02:01 AM

i thought it was interesting that he said he doesnt mind people downloading Opeth's music off the net. it shows opeth are really about the music.

RouteOne 01-04-2005 08:40 PM

What was the concept to Blackwaterpark? I know there is a story behind each album, i'm wondering what it was to BWP.


BTW- Whats you're favorite Opeth album cover?

dUSK 01-04-2005 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]i thought it was interesting that he said he doesnt mind people downloading Opeth's music off the net. it shows opeth are really about the music.[/QUOTE]

Most people end up buying Opeth's albums after downloading their music anyway (I've tried unsuccessfully 4 times now). If it wasn't for downloading, many bands wouldn't have the fan base they have today.

Grey Incision 01-05-2005 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]Most people end up buying Opeth's albums after downloading their music anyway (I've tried unsuccessfully 4 times now). If it wasn't for downloading, many bands wouldn't have the fan base they have today.[/QUOTE]

quoted for truth, It seems that the regular metal fan will buy the album to support the band. Go metal :)

The Flabbit Rides High 01-05-2005 07:27 AM

I would cross the earth 3 times to see Tool and Opeth in concert.

^Dream~Theater^ 01-05-2005 07:30 AM

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]quoted for truth, It seems that the regular metal fan will buy the album to support the band. Go metal :)[/QUOTE]
That's a true fan.

Kaiwaz 01-05-2005 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]What was the concept to Blackwaterpark? I know there is a story behind each album, i'm wondering what it was to BWP.


BTW- Whats you're favorite Opeth album cover?[/QUOTE]



Morningrise

Kaiwaz 01-05-2005 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=Kafkastolemyslippers]:lol: funny way to say it.

But no one was saying it in a bad way like " I like Opeth less because they may or may not have some anti-christian themes in their lyrics". But their lyrics are very well-crafted and contain the same range of emotion as the music itself, and there is no reason not to talk about the lyrical themes therein.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. :thumb:



I went to see Opeth live in Minnesota on February 18th of 2004 with Moonspell and Devildriver. I was really hoping to hear songs from either Orchid or Morningrise...but to my dismay...they didn't play a single song from either album. Do they even play songs from those albums live? Have you witnessed songs from Orchid or Morningrise live? If so, what songs and when was the concert?








[I]Shadows skulk at my coming
We survey the slopes
In search for the words to write the missing page
The tainted dogma
Time grows short
As the piper plays his time
We are almost there
You are beyond all help
Dancing into the void
We are almost there[/I]

shadows_forbid 01-05-2005 07:40 PM

****ing opeth and tool i would kill someone to see that

Grey Incision 01-05-2005 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Agreed. :thumb:



I went to see Opeth live in Minnesota on February 18th of 2004 with Moonspell and Devildriver. I was really hoping to hear songs from either Orchid or Morningrise...but to my dismay...they didn't play a single song from either album. Do they even play songs from those albums live? Have you witnessed songs from Orchid or Morningrise live? If so, what songs and when was the concert?








[I]Shadows skulk at my coming
We survey the slopes
In search for the words to write the missing page
The tainted dogma
Time grows short
As the piper plays his time
We are almost there
You are beyond all help
Dancing into the void
We are almost there[/I][/QUOTE]


They aren't aloud to apparently. I think their old record company started being stingy when Opeth decided to change to another company. so Opeth aren't aloud to play anything off Orchids and Morningrise anymore :(

LeperAffinity 01-05-2005 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]They aren't aloud to apparently. I think their old record company started being stingy when Opeth decided to change to another company. so Opeth aren't aloud to play anything off Orchids and Morningrise anymore :([/QUOTE]
No, the thing with that was that they weren't allowed to record them for the dvd. I'm pretty sure the label can't stop them from playing any songs that they want to. Also, I remember reading about a year or two ago that Mikael said that on this past tour, they would play songs that they usually don't play live. That could be the reason for the exclusion of older material, because it's usually played.


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