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the2stranger 06-03-2005 11:23 AM

why are you sick of classical music? :eek:

MalcolmYoungRock 06-03-2005 11:24 AM

Ah, man it feels good to be back home.

/wanders off in pit.

Illmatic 06-03-2005 11:33 AM

[QUOTE=clearvision]I think everyones heard summertime in some variation...

This version is pretty cool, i love davis' trumpet sound...[/QUOTE]

True...I've heard the Miles version the most though. I love the Miles version.

Also, holy crap AH, your avatars keep getting more and more homoerotic...

Also, just to spice things up, has anyone here heard about the Milton Sex Scandal?

At Milton Academy (one of the top prep schools in MA), five male students (two 16-year-olds, two 17-year-olds and an 18-year-old, I think) were expelled for recieving oral sex from a 15-year-old female student and were arrested on statutory rape charges (the legal age in MA is 16). From what I can gather, it was 100% consentual...but the girl didn't get kicked out either.

So the two 17-year-olds and the 18-year-old were put on trial (the 16-year-olds were tried as juveniles and got probation until they turned 18) and faced severe jail time. They lucked out and got community service and probation, but they weren't reinstated at the school. Also, they were forced to read written apologies at their trial (WTF?), which is retarded because [b]it was consentual. They have nothing to apologize for.[/b]

I'm not going to say "Oh they were only a few years off blah blah" but I think it's retarded that Milton Academy won't let them back in...they were good students and good kids (this was the only real spot on their records) who were (let's face it) the victims of growing up in an era where America is a hotbed of sexual activities among teens. And once again, the girl willingly
agreed to do it.

I think it has something to do with the school wanting to keep its prestige or something, which is also stupid.

Meh...I don't get it.

Dancin' Man 06-03-2005 11:48 AM

It was only head...


That is pretty lame. Ironic how the south is more conservative but it is more acceptable to have sex with younger girls while it is the opposite in the north east

Jom 06-03-2005 11:56 AM

Well, it was against the law. It doesn't matter if it was consentual or not. What if the girl was younger? Fourteen, thirteen. It would be apprehensible, yes?

Point being, even if the boys got the best head they'd ever received and don't have to apologize for it, they knowingly [it seems, anyway] broke the law. So, you can bold what you think all you want, but it's still an illegal act.

The punishment was justified in the eyes of the law.

And, yeah, it's a prep school, and apparently a top one at that. Of course Milton doesn't want to make news, so it's going to do whatever it takes to save its own hide.

superpeer 06-03-2005 11:58 AM

Personally, I think the girl should be put in gaol for being such a slut. Give the guys a break.

Six Foot Revolver 06-03-2005 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Personally, I think the girl should be put in gaol for being such a slut. Give the guys a break.[/QUOTE]
:lol: How come you love Gaol so much?

NP:Judas Priest-Living Bad Dreams

Dancin' Man 06-03-2005 12:03 PM

Does oral sex count as sex in MA? I think that is the part that confuses me the most. And the fact that she is a slut.

clearvision 06-03-2005 12:05 PM

The way it works in the UK is something like if you are 16 you are legal...but if you bang someone that's 14 you can be up to 17 and it still be ok( or not ok, but no charges will be clamped upon you for it)....it's only when you get past 18 then charges start getting clamped on you....that is my understanding of it...

And considering it was only head...that is ridulous.

Illmatic 06-03-2005 12:07 PM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Well, it was against the law. It doesn't matter if it was consentual or not. What if the girl was younger? Fourteen, thirteen. It would be apprehensible, yes?

Point being, even if the boys got the best head they'd ever received and don't have to apologize for it, they knowingly [it seems, anyway] broke the law. So, you can bold what you think all you want, but it's still an illegal act.

The punishment was justified in the eyes of the law.

And, yeah, it's a prep school, and apparently a top one at that. Of course Milton doesn't want to make news, so it's going to do whatever it takes to save its own hide.[/QUOTE]

I know it was an illegal act, but it wasn't something truly heinous--if it was actual rape it could be easily justified. It was just a bunch of horny kids doing what horny kids do--and from what I can gather, these were good kids. The girl got a heavy suspension--are you telling me they couldn't have done that to the guys?

Jelle: WTF is "gaol"? Do you mean "jail"? :lol:

[QUOTE=DM]Does oral sex count as sex in MA? I think that is the part that confuses me the most. And the fact that she is a slut.[/QUOTE]

Between this and the watershed Monica Lewinsky scandal I think it's safe to say that in the eyes of the law, oral sex does indeed count as sex.

And yeah, the girl is hella slutty. If she gave head to five guys and didn't cry "rape", she must be the easiest girl in Milton.

Six Foot Revolver 06-03-2005 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Jelle: WTF is "gaol"? Do you mean "jail"? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Gaol is jail in Belgium language (doesn't know what it is called :p)

Jom 06-03-2005 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I know it was an illegal act, but it wasn't something truly heinous--if it was actual rape it could be easily justified. It was just a bunch of horny kids doing what horny kids do--and from what I can gather, these were good kids. The girl got a heavy suspension--are you telling me they couldn't have done that to the guys?

Jelle: WTF is "gaol"? Do you mean "jail"? :lol:

Between this and the watershed Monica Lewinsky scandal I think it's safe to say that in the eyes of the law, oral sex does indeed count as sex.

And yeah, the girl is hella slutty. If she gave head to five guys and didn't cry "rape", she must be the easiest girl in Milton.[/QUOTE]

Gaol is a European term for jail. Look it up on dictionary.com if you don't believe me.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gaol[/url]

Look, the law doesn't have asterisks or disclaimers over sexual acts. A sexual act is a sexual act. There is no grey area. The grey area is left to science and other things like that.

Dancin' Man 06-03-2005 12:12 PM

There are most certainly gray areas. Dance styles have been termed sexual displays of vulgarity or some such thing by some groups and not by others. I'm sure there are fundamentalist Christians out there who consider kissing in public or lying together on the grass sexual acts.

Shred Danson 06-03-2005 12:12 PM

I get no poon :(

Illmatic 06-03-2005 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Gaol is a European term for jail. Look it up on dictionary.com if you don't believe me.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gaol[/url][/QUOTE]

So I see.

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Look, the law doesn't have asterisks or disclaimers over sexual acts. A sexual act is a sexual act. There is no grey area. The grey area is left to science and other things like that.[/QUOTE]

I know that.

I never said, "They shouldn't be tried, they shouldn't be convicted"...I said, "They shouldn't be kicked out of school."

Milton Academy is (I assume) a private school, and thus can basically do as it pleases. If it is a public school and the kids got expelled because that's how the government does, I can't argue. But it's a private school, so they can make up their own mind, and I don't think it's right to expel the kids. Let the law punish them as it pleases, but keep them in school.

I'm not picking a bone with the law here, I'm picking a bone with Milton Academy.

superpeer 06-03-2005 12:15 PM

Gaol is old fashioned English, ye faggots.

Six Foot Revolver 06-03-2005 12:17 PM

[SIZE=5][B]ATTN: JOE[/B][/SIZE]
I apologise for making the thread on aveneged sevenfold, I made it as a joke to get back at some n00b with the name avenged sevenfold who made a emo hating thread. To be honest I have never heard Avenged Sevenfold so I stand in no position to say they suck.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348320[/url]
^Proof of thread

Jom 06-03-2005 12:18 PM

Ah. I thought it was a public institution, Illmatic, hence me going on and on about law interpreting. My apologies.

[quote=DM]There are most certainly gray areas. Dance styles have been termed sexual displays of vulgarity or some such thing by some groups and not by others. I'm sure there are fundamentalist Christians out there who consider kissing in public or lying together on the grass sexual acts.[/quote]

That has nothing to do with an interpretation of the law. I was saying that the law isn't composed to grey area, not stuff outside of it.

With what you described: that's just a hardcore right-wing denomination being a bunch of faggots over a sport or lifestyle that isn't pleasing to them.

Illmatic 06-03-2005 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=AH]Ah. I thought it was a public institution, Illmatic, hence me going on and on about law interpreting. My apologies.[/QUOTE]

Like I said, the law's the law. They broke the law, so they should be tried thusly. But what the law does and what the school does are seperate things, and I think Milton Academy's doing something real stupid.

But no hard feelings.

Arucard 06-03-2005 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=MXican][SIZE=5][B]ATTN: JOE[/B][/SIZE]
I apologise for making the thread on aveneged sevenfold, I made it as a joke to get back at some n00b with the name avenged sevenfold who made a emo hating thread. To be honest I have never heard Avenged Sevenfold so I stand in no position to say they suck.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348320[/url]
^Proof of thread[/QUOTE]

Heh, it doesnt matter atall, i immediatly understood it was to get back at that dumb anti-emo idiot.

Dancin' Man 06-03-2005 12:24 PM

I suppose. I still think it is stupid.

Anyway, it's friday. Only one week left. I hate all of you in college or earlier highschools

Illmatic 06-03-2005 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=DM]There are most certainly gray areas. Dance styles have been termed sexual displays of vulgarity or some such thing by some groups and not by others. I'm sure there are fundamentalist Christians out there who consider kissing in public or lying together on the grass sexual acts.[/QUOTE]

What you just mentioned isn't exactly interpretations of the law, but rather why organized religion is f[size=2]ucking stupid.[/size]

[QUOTE=DM]Anyway, it's friday. Only one week left. I hate all of you in college or earlier highschools[/QUOTE]

(points, laughs)

superpeer 06-03-2005 12:34 PM

Well, I was supposed to go to the cinema tonight, but my girlfriend would rather go to a party. :\

The booze better be cheap.

Illmatic 06-03-2005 12:39 PM

What movie were you going to see, Jelle?

I don't have any plans with my girlfriend today...hell, the bitch just rolled out of bed ten minutes ago. Her long sleeping hours have been the most entertaining** subplot of her stay here.

** - frustrating and puzzling

NP: Queen - Somebody To Love

Firecracker 06-03-2005 01:05 PM

Hey thread, i have been so bored today. It's been untrue.
This holiday is turning out to be the worst one, EVER.

NP: Rolling Stones - 2000 Man

Arucard 06-03-2005 01:08 PM

Wow, that stupid sXe kid has come into the Sevenfold discussion thread.

/Commits suicide. Burns a7x records.

superpeer 06-03-2005 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]What movie were you going to see, Jelle?

I don't have any plans with my girlfriend today...hell, the bitch just rolled out of bed ten minutes ago. Her long sleeping hours have been the most entertaining** subplot of her stay here.

** - frustrating and puzzling

NP: Queen - Somebody To Love[/QUOTE]

Kingdom of Heaven, possibly Sin City. (just came out)

Six Foot Revolver 06-03-2005 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Wow, that stupid sXe kid has come into the Sevenfold discussion thread.

/Commits suicide. Burns a7x records.[/QUOTE]
:lol:

I'm sorry :(

Arucard 06-03-2005 01:20 PM

Dont be, you didnt do anything wrong. It is only... natrual to exact your revenge. He took away from your forums, so you want to take away from his.

/Star Wars plug.

Six Foot Revolver 06-03-2005 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Dont be, you didnt do anything wrong. It is only... natrual to exact your revenge. He took away from your forums, so you want to take away from his.

/Star Wars plug.[/QUOTE]
:)

ATTN:People

This or the banana?


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