Kage- Are you on AIM now?

Enough with the Fred Durst hating guys. He is good at what he does.*


























*He's not a musician, he's a marketing man. :lol:

Yeah, and Moses, just because the song is 16 minutes long doesn't make it progressive. Look at Disgustipated. It may be more of a filler track, but either way, it's not a progressive song, even though it is a very long track. I'm sure there are plenty of 5 minute songs that are more progressive than this Limp Bizkit song.

Alright. but i dunno, thats the second or third lpb convo in recent memory, I dont the lp topic should be abused. but w/e, slightly more interesting than all the cover talk.

I agree... the cover talk is quite boring,

Especially when you don't take part :(

Yeah, it's fun when you have something to do with the covers, but I can see how you guys would get bored just watching us have all the fun. :lol:

Hey at least the covers have inspired me to start working on stuff for the band so that I can show it to anyone online. Ive already worked out 3 songs this week :)


I wonder why the covers have taken so lonf, The laterlaus part I heard only needed vocals and some dude had already singed a bit.

[QUOTE=herbtones]LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?[/QUOTE]
thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Kage- Are you on AIM now?[/QUOTE]
No.

hey i just heard that 46&2 cover and i just want to say that it was amazing, and extra props to the drummer.:)

:amaze: [QUOTE=faith+1]thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)[/QUOTE] who do they play for?

Tomas Haake = Meshuggah... very amazingly good drummer.

[QUOTE=herbtones]:amaze: who do they play for?[/QUOTE]
teryy bozzio = GOD

thomas haake = overplays polyrythms that arent that musical, but is still good

Meshuggah is all about playing unmusical stuff, but I greatly admire them for their abilities in collaboratively writing a piece of that fits together, but would not fit anywhere else.

Stengah- I think it's in 13/8 time. wtf? :lol: I think the most impressive part about that song is that their guitarist(s) solo is also in that time sig. It's hard enough to solo as well as they do, but to do it in a funky time sig, that's doubly impressive.

[QUOTE=faith+1]thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)[/QUOTE]
Woah. When did that happen?
Dare I ask, is there a video? Or at the very least, pixplzkthx?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Stengah- I think it's in 13/8 time. wtf? :lol:[/QUOTE]
The thing about odd time is that the more you play it, and the more beats that you create in, say, 9/8, 12/8, or even 25/8, which I've been working with recently, the less complex it beings to feel to your ears.

When I first heard Danny Carey and Tomas Haake play in their respective bands, I was boggled by the rhythms and the way they sounded. So, I began dabbling in odd time, starting with the usual 5/4, 7/4. 9/8 type of thing. (I don't consider 6/8 or 3/4 odd.) By the time I was working with weird compound times such as 12/8, 15/8, 26/8, and the like, you begin to understand them, and listen to them, in a much different way.

Once you free yourself from the habit of counting and playing in fours, you'll be surprised at what you can do simply.

To sum it up: practice!

[QUOTE=faith+1]thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)[/QUOTE]

Terry Bozzio? He may be the best drummer who ever lived in my eyes.

[QUOTE=herbtones]

I wonder why the covers have taken so lonf, The laterlaus part I heard only needed vocals and some dude had already singed a bit.[/QUOTE]

We're not using that one. The drums are MIDI. The guy that posted it never showed up again, so I don't think we should use it. :shrug: Plus, we have a perfectly good drum track already, so why would we want to use the MIDI drums?

Who does Terry Bozzio play for?

BW- The hard part is constructing something listenable out of it.

Bozzio played for Frank Zappa, I believe. He had a song called The Black Page which is one of his most famous drum solos. Overall, still one of the best living players.

I think I'll be good to go with the Ticks & Leeches cover if anyone wanted to put that together. There's just parts in there where I can't here a thing on the bass, so little parts may be self-written.

*waits for Joz to pop in with a recording playing the song behind his back*

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]The thing about odd time is that the more you play it, and the more beats that you create in, say, 9/8, 12/8, or even 25/8, which I've been working with recently, the less complex it beings to feel to your ears.

When I first heard Danny Carey and Tomas Haake play in their respective bands, I was boggled by the rhythms and the way they sounded. So, I began dabbling in odd time, starting with the usual 5/4, 7/4. 9/8 type of thing. (I don't consider 6/8 or 3/4 odd.) By the time I was working with weird compound times such as 12/8, 15/8, 26/8, and the like, you begin to understand them, and listen to them, in a much different way.

Once you free yourself from the habit of counting and playing in fours, you'll be surprised at what you can do simply.

To sum it up: practice![/QUOTE]

your odd times suck .....go to the drumforum and learn how to count properly cause 25/8 is just playing 5 bars of 5, which would be easier, and if its impossible to count your 25 rythm in 5 explain how you are counting and i will tell you if you are right, and if im just being an a[SIZE=2]sshole[/SIZE].

[QUOTE=faith+1]your odd times suck .....go to the drumforum and learn how to count properly cause 25/8 is just playing 5 bars of 5, which would be easier, and if its impossible to count your 25 rythm in 5 explain how you are counting and i will tell you if you are right, and if im just being an a[SIZE=2]sshole[/SIZE].[/QUOTE]

How is 25/8 5 bars of 5? That would be 25/4 timing. 25/8 timing is 5 bars of 5/8 timing (which is 2.5 beats, not 5). Now, last time I checked, 5/8 timing is a little strange to play in.

[QUOTE]How is 25/8 5 bars of 5? That would be 25/4 timing. 25/8 timing is 5 bars of 5/8 timing (which is 2.5 beats, not 5). Now, last time I checked, 5/8 timing is a little strange to play in.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: when phrasing odd times into sentences you normally stay on one note duration, or else notate what duration you are speaking about at the time of change. If you have ever even glanced at sheet music you would know this. Good example would be symphony X, they have a passage that refers to a triplet style 23/16, the next passage is a 21/16, there is no notation of what the note duration is for this, because most people educated in odd times will know that 21/4 is plain idiotic.

And since when does everything revolve around quarter notes? if things were how you say (which they arent) then saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, like you said. (5/1 would be plain stupid)

Educate yourself in punctuation. :lol:

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Educate yourself in punctuation. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Fixed......... now educate yourself in life and stop being a grammer nazi.

[QUOTE=faith+1]:rolleyes: when phrasing odd times into sentences you normally stay on one note duration or else notate what duration you are speaking about at the time of change because if you have ever even glanced at sheet music you would know this. good example would be symphony X they have a passage that refers to a triplet style 23/16 the next passage is a 21/16 there is no notation of what the note duration is for this because most people educated in odd times will know that 21/4 is plain idiotic.

And since when does everything revolve around quarter notes? if things were how you say (which they arent) then saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, like you said. (5/1 would be plain stupid)[/QUOTE]

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You said 25/8 is 5 bars of 5. That is exactly what you said. And than in this post you say that saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, "like I said." Well, you said 5 by itself. When you refer to the number of beats in a bar, it is most often based off of quarter notes. For example, let's use 5/4 b/c as I hope you know, 5/1 isn't an actual timing. Divide 5 by 4. It equals 1.25. Multiply that by 4, it equals 5. Quarter notes is what almost every musician uses and bases things like this off of. 4/4 has 4 beats in it. 3/4 has 3. 5/4 has 5. 5/8 has 2.5 beats in it (or if you prefer, 5 eigth notes). 5/4 and 5/8 are not the same thing (same goes for 21/16 and 21/4). The reason quarter notes are used most often is because it's the easiest to use and it's extremely unusual to have a bar that is less than one quarter note.

[QUOTE=satchforever]Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You said 25/8 is 5 bars of 5. That is exactly what you said. And than in this post you say that saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, "like I said." Well, you said 5 by itself. When you refer to the number of beats in a bar, it is most often based off of quarter notes. For example, let's use 5/4 b/c as I hope you know, 5/1 isn't an actual timing. Divide 5 by 4. It equals 1.25. Multiply that by 4, it equals 5. Quarter notes is what almost every musician uses and bases things like this off of. 4/4 has 4 beats in it. 3/4 has 3. 5/4 has 5. 5/8 has 2.5 beats in it (or if you prefer, 5 eigth notes). 5/4 and 5/8 are not the same thing (same goes for 21/16 and 21/4). The reason quarter notes are used most often is because it's the easiest to use and it's extremely unusual to have a bar that is less than one quarter note.[/QUOTE]
you need to reread my post.

[QUOTE=satchforever]How is 25/8 5 bars of 5? That would be 25/4 timing. 25/8 timing is 5 bars of 5/8 timing (which is 2.5 beats, not 5). Now, last time I checked, 5/8 timing is a little strange to play in.[/QUOTE]

umm this post confuses and angers me. I havnet read sheet music in a long time, but the way Ive always understood time signatures is this. The first note in the fraction is how many notes in the measure. The second note is the type/duration of the note.

7/8= seven eighth notes per measure.
7/4 seven quarter notes per measure.

25/8 would be one measure with 25 eighth notes.
25/4 would be one measure with 25 quarter notes.

also, its only important to have all your notes equal what the time signature reads. You can have a dotted eighth note followed by 2 quarter notes and that would be 5/8.

or so i think.

Your post makes more sense now that you edited it, but you need to reread my post because you don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=faith+1]Fixed......... now educate yourself in life and stop being a grammer nazi.[/QUOTE]

I'm not even close to a grammar Nazi. Just don't insult someone's intelligence and compose a post that is unintelligible. Now continue with your meaningless time sig pissing contest...

correct rounder ^