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Pale-Folklore 01-21-2006 04:22 PM

i just bought damnation for $8.95 used

ZEROthirtythree 01-21-2006 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]what can you come up with?[/QUOTE]

Demon of the Melinda?

I'm going to the Opeth show in Towson. :thumb:

Biancazzurri 01-21-2006 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]I guess I wouldn't either, to be honest.

I'm just sick of people acting like Morningrise is some fully-formed masterpiece never to be surpassed by anybody anywhere. It's awesome within its own paradigm, but come on. It's so amateur. You've got to look at Morningrise in more contexts than its individual quality. Flynn sees Morningrise in terms of a bare-bones musical standpoint, and has a great love for it that borders on fanboyism. That's great and valid, because much of the musical content of Morningrise is excellent and even downright beautiful, but as a composer of similar music who has grown from his beginning attempts to emulate his influences, and who appreciates growth in skill of the same sort in other groups, I see Morningrise in terms of Opeth's later output, and I see endless signs of compositional adolescence. And that's valid too.[/QUOTE]
Morningrise IS a masterpiece
stop talking about **** like amateur or not tight or not ****ing technical or not
who cares if you can hear the album 10 times a day???

Kaiwaz 01-21-2006 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=Biancazzurri]Morningrise IS a masterpiece[/QUOTE]


I'll drink to that. :chug:

Det_Nosnip 01-21-2006 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=bucket]Zakath also posted about his heterosexuality by backing it up with a picture of a transvestite. :-\ That was the manliest jawline I've ever seen. And those wrists![/QUOTE]

Zakath is a very...[i]special[/i] child. :lol:

TojesDolan 01-21-2006 05:43 PM

Even so, Mikael isn't particularly fond of it.

At least some parts of it.

That's what he says.

Deth 01-21-2006 08:35 PM

I really do love Morningrise. I can't explain why, and every criticism seems to be well supported, but I love to listen to it.

ok lateralus 01-21-2006 08:45 PM

Morningrise is my favorite Opeth album. I just love it, it has something all the other albums dont. Whereas Orchid is more mystical and just plain eerie, and very nature-oriented, Morningrise is darker, but in a human, depressing way. The lyrics are also more personal- a song like TNATSW would be out of place on Orchid. It just feels like a very epic album, and as I guitarist I appreciate and love all the classical guitar parts... they're so beautiful. The only thing that was present on Orchid that I love that Morningrise lacks is the more melodic, higher-pitched dual guitar lines like at the end of In Mist...
All in all, I would say Morningrise is definitely a masterpiece of sorts. The only true flaws are that a couple parts in Black Rose Immortal sound a little stapled together loosely, as some have already said. But I still love it. If I had to choose a second favorite it would be MAYH, though, because it keeps the amazing vocals and has even better lyrics, and it feels even more cohesive. Still, I will always probably have MR as my no. 1.

MidnightRider 01-21-2006 08:45 PM

Morningrise is definitely some of Opeth's best work.

Not trying to sound like a free music whore, but could someone upload a couple of live Opeth songs? I've never heard any. :D

Jude 01-21-2006 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]Morningrise is definitely some of Opeth's best work.

Not trying to sound like a free music whore, but could someone upload a couple of live Opeth songs? I've never heard any. :D[/QUOTE]
I have some crappy live version of Bleak if you want, but it sucks (sound quality wise). AIM = mistergroovy1023

Pale-Folklore 01-22-2006 12:45 AM

i have a wicked live video of them playing demon of the fall

oh and, i listened to damnation, it's a good album but i found it to be a little short

Kage 01-22-2006 01:44 AM

[QUOTE=Pale-Folklore]oh and, i listened to damnation, it's a good album but i found it to be a little short[/QUOTE]
I never understand criticisms dealing with the length of something.

"Oh, that's my specialty, length. It's the perfect length. How about the width of it?"

-Larry David

gmoneyguy 01-22-2006 01:48 AM

[QUOTE=Biancazzurri]Morningrise IS a masterpiece
stop talking about **** like amateur or not tight or not ****ing technical or not
who cares if you can hear the album 10 times a day???[/QUOTE]
Heres the thing he has something backing his statement up, you don't.
Don't be an idiot please.

Det_Nosnip 01-22-2006 02:13 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]I never understand criticisms dealing with the length of something.
[/QUOTE]

Well, complaints that something is too short are generally better than complaints that it is too long. ;) I could see two hypothetical cases where shortness of length would be a valid complaint: first, where the songs lack sufficient development and don't give the musicians time to express themselves. See: almost any modern rock or metal band who gets airplay. Sometimes, musical ideas or phrases will be started, and right when it seems like they're going somewhere, the chorus will refrain and then end the song, cutting the music short. A second instance would be where the material is just so damn good, that you're left wanting more at the end. This is my personal opinion of Damnation. :)

gmoneyguy 01-22-2006 02:17 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Well, complaints that something is too short are generally better than complaints that it is too long. ;) I could see two hypothetical cases where shortness of length would be a valid complaint: first, where the songs lack sufficient development and don't give the musicians time to express themselves. See: almost any modern rock or metal band who gets airplay. Sometimes, musical ideas or phrases will be started, and right when it seems like they're going somewhere, the chorus will refrain and then end the song, cutting the music short. A second instance would be where the material is just so damn good, that you're left wanting more at the end. This is my personal opinion of Damnation. :)[/QUOTE]
But things can drone on, its all opinion, where the phrase gets old and won't reach the cadence.

Im fan of morningrise, BTW, I'm just saying the I can see where Cain is coming from.

Kaiwaz 01-22-2006 11:26 AM

I just got a cool [B]O[/B]peth Guitar Lesson video with Akerfeldt, Mendez and Lindgren covering certain riffs from Blackwater Park. Post your email if you would like it.

-Thanks.-

Txus 01-22-2006 11:28 AM

That sounds great.

[email]Txus.mx@gmail.com[/email]

Thanks :thumb:

ok lateralus 01-22-2006 11:29 AM

^i'll have what hes having

[email]oklateralus@yahoo.com[/email]

Darkness 01-22-2006 11:31 AM

Flynn I'm pretty sure its The Drapery Falls, I have it to.

Kaiwaz 01-22-2006 11:42 AM

Give me a few minutes guys, it's over 40 mb.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Flynn I'm pretty sure its The Drapery Falls, I have it to.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Dissecting The Drapery Falls. I thought there were other songs from Blackwater Park on this too, I was wrong.

MidnightRider 01-22-2006 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Jude]I have some crappy live version of Bleak if you want, but it sucks (sound quality wise). AIM = mistergroovy1023[/QUOTE]

Could you possibly YSI? I don't have AIM, just AOL. Thanks.

Panvium 01-22-2006 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I just got a cool [B]O[/B]peth Guitar Lesson video with Akerfeldt, Mendez and Lindgren covering certain riffs from Blackwater Park. Post your email if you would like it.

-Thanks.-[/QUOTE]

Me too please
[email]ObsoL33T@hotmail.com[/email]

Shattered_Future 01-22-2006 12:55 PM

I'm interested in the lesson.

[email]anemiate@yahoo.com[/email]

Much thanks. :thumb:

Kaiwaz 01-22-2006 01:04 PM

Sent.

Pale-Folklore 01-22-2006 01:30 PM

i have that too, it's pretty awesome

Pale-Folklore 01-22-2006 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I never understand criticisms dealing with the length of something.

"Oh, that's my specialty, length. It's the perfect length. How about the width of it?"

-Larry David[/QUOTE]

i don't know, i just felt it wasn't quite as "epic" as the other opeth albums, it finished pretty quickly, the songs are all great though, my favourites are windowpane, closure, weakness, and in my time of need.

Det_Nosnip pretty much explained it

Darkness 01-22-2006 01:39 PM

Indeed, Damnation leaves me wanting more.

milkman41 01-22-2006 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Sent.[/QUOTE]

I hope its not too late to still get it, [email]sparklepinknick@gmail.com[/email]

Kaiwaz 01-22-2006 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=milkman41]I hope its not too late to still get it, [email]sparklepinknick@gmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]


Sent. Thanks to Dunkelheit for part 2. :chug: Peace out - It's playoff time!!!

raz0r 01-22-2006 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Sent. Thanks to Dunkelheit for part 2. :chug: Peace out - It's playoff time!!![/QUOTE]

:o

I missed it :(

You couldn't by any chance re-upload it, could you?

[email]raz0rraz0r@gmail.com[/email]

Thanks


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