Gehe I'ms eeing them july 2, and I hope it will be like the royal albert hall set list, that will be great :), onyl add: The Punk And The Godfather, Helpless Dancer, We're Not Gonna Take It, Christmas and some others
and take away songsl ike Mary An with the shaky hand etcetc :P

I'd rather see them do Mary Ann with the Shakey Hands than a rundown of the Who's Ultimate Collection.

gehe I rather see them do their ultimate songs ;) Also Doctor Jimmy would be great live :)

Yeah, the "Ultimate" songs sound good. I mean, that covers a lot of ground. If the new album is really good (I have my hopes up) it would be nice to hear more and more from it as the tour progresses. I know that's most likely not going to happen, I'm just pretty excited about this new stuff. If they do say 22-24 songs I would like 4 to be new. Change the setlist up a little every few nights. Good enough for old geezers like The Who.

It's nice to see that Pete likes the internet too!

Yeah. Pete loves the internets. He thinks he predicted them. Like on the Royal Albert Hall album where he says "Relay" was kind of about the internet, although it was written in 1971 :-\. Now he simply says it's about "communication". Part of the Lifehouse project, I don't think Townshend was the first one to envision high speed information transfer. Although some of the lyrics are pretty right on. Instead of the "internet" in the story it's simply called the Relay.

It's funny because Pete always has gone on and on in concert and interview to make sure some things are perfectly understood, and no one understands wtf he is talking about half the time, anyway. Poor Roger. He has never even tried to get a word in edge wise on stage. Pete just rambles on and on. No wonder Roger would punch him out sometimes.

haha yeah

and Frank Zappa invented the mp3 player.

Found this quote from Pete concerning Roger from an interview he did on the upcoming actvities. I thought it was amusing:

[i]"I find it very hard to please Roger. It's as narrow a brief as it was when we were 17 ... when I used to look at Roger and think ... Roger is a tough guy from the 'hood, I've gotta write songs about fighting."[/i]

I personally think Pete always cared too much about Roger, from how it sounds. Or perhaps I should say Roger made too big an issue about singing what Pete sometimes wrote for him.

JUST STFU AND DO YOUR JOB YOU UNGRATEFUL BITCH!

Oh, and apparently some of the songs from the album were inspired by the Belson School massacre. Whatever that is? Sounds vaguely famliar.

You won't be hearing any songs but same stuff that has been played for decades...Checkout Pete new diary entry..

'maybe few rarities', They are truly lazy cowards now, pathetic He shouldn't talk about playing anything else but the same stuff if he doesn't have any intention to do anything else. Would much rather see Pete do solo acoustic tour, there would propably much more change hearing rare stuff and songs from new album....

truly disappointing but of course complately expected...

[QUOTE=wanderer]You won't be hearing any songs but same stuff that has been played for decades...Checkout Pete new diary entry..

'maybe few rarities', They are truly lazy cowards now, pathetic He shouldn't talk about playing anything else but the same stuff if he doesn't have any intention to do anything else. Would much rather see Pete do solo acoustic tour, there would propably much more change hearing rare stuff and songs from new album....

truly disappointing but of course complately expected...[/QUOTE]

stfu and enjoy the old live music

Give the old guys a break, Wanderer. Pete says the setlist will vary from night to night so I don't think it will be just the same batch of songs they have been doing for the past few years. Of course the standards will be included, but hopefully the rest of the set will find a change up or two. Pete says "not too many new songs" which is a little disappointing, but I'm hoping for at least four. Let's just wait and see what they have in store as the tour progresses and the new album gains some steam.

And you must admit whatever you think of them live a whole album worth of new Who material and an EP coming out this year is exciting news. So if you want a lot of new stuff it's all there for you.

Long Live Rock, and so on and so forth....

[QUOTE=wanderer]You won't be hearing any songs but same stuff that has been played for decades...Checkout Pete new diary entry..

'maybe few rarities', They are truly lazy cowards now, pathetic He shouldn't talk about playing anything else but the same stuff if he doesn't have any intention to do anything else. Would much rather see Pete do solo acoustic tour, there would propably much more change hearing rare stuff and songs from new album....

truly disappointing but of course complately expected...[/QUOTE]

Have you ever said anything positive about the Who? Why are you still a "fan" if you to hate on their every move?

Lazy cowards? How bout being 60-something and still trying to play rock 'n roll (and I don't mean how the Stones still play)? Yea, that sounds real lazy and cowardly to me. I understand you're disappointed, but if have that much of a problem with it just let them fade away and move on.

Why I'm a fan..because Townshend has been marvelous on ITA songs/live etc. I think 2000 Year,Uncertain Girl and Marty Robbins (GREAT !! song) are very good tunes. I have hopes that new album would be at least as good as Townshend solo (what it is anyways) stuff because that would already be quite amazing. It will no doupt be different like every album the man has made...

What I most thought since this tour is the "last stand", it would be reflected in what they do. They would go out doing something memorable, something big ,unique and different like like "Quadrophenia/tommy" tour but as 5 (6 with Simon but you can't really count him since he has pretty much no fuctoin at all during the shows) piece but no, why do that...

This, they are 60... so this means they can and should be applauded for only doing same thing live is the lamest excuse in history for playing the same stuff..... no doupt this excuse works great for them...

[QUOTE=wanderer]Why I'm a fan..because Townshend has been marvelous on ITA songs/live etc. I think 2000 Year,Uncertain Girl and Marty Robbins (GREAT !! song) are very good tunes. I have hopes that new album would be at least as good as Townshend solo (what it is anyways) stuff because that would already be quite amazing. It will no doupt be different like every album the man has made...

What I most thought since this tour is the "last stand", it would be reflected in what they do. They would go out doing something memorable, something big ,unique and different like like "Quadrophenia/tommy" tour but as 5 (6 with Simon but you can't really count him since he has pretty much no fuctoin at all during the shows) piece but no, why do that...

This, they are 60... so this means they can and should be applauded for only doing same thing live is the lamest excuse in history for playing the same stuff..... no doupt this excuse works great for them...[/QUOTE]

why dont you just wait until you see what they do on tour. All the old hits live in concert are still incredible. Since i will probably only see "The Who" live once in my life (if they come to Australia?) i would rather them play all their hits and 1-2 good songs off their new album or elsewhere.

Im picking up live at leeds 2day :thumb:

Good choice with the LaL. You'll never look at the Who the same way afterwards.

Personally, I have no idea what the new album will be like. It could be great or it could be terrible. I'd rather see them do songs I know are awesome. However, I would like them to play some of their overlooked songs and mix up the setlist. But they have such a large catalogue that they don't need to resort to playing their entire new album to make it an interesting show. I'd like to see them do some hits like Baba O'Reily, Pinball Wizard, Won't Get Fooled Again, but also some less common songs such as Acid Queen, Armenia City in the Sky (will never happen), Slip Kid, How Many Friends, Christmas, Sally Simpson, Water, Love Ain't For Keeping... I'll probably be happy no matter what they play.

I'm not saying I don't want to hear new stuff. I'd love to hear 2-3 new songs, but remember, the new stuff could be a total flop so I don't think it's unreasonable for them to want to "play it safe."

I doubt if the new stuff will be a flop. I think it'll be softer then peak Who stuff, but not Face Dances "pop" or terrible like It's Hard. I trust Pete on this. The man is talented. I just hope he didn't get too grand or high concept. Something toughtful and rocking would be most welcome. And hopefully because of age he and Roger could find some common ground and perhaps use that to there advantage. They have been through a lot of wars together and are literally the last men standing.

I used to feel like I would like them to do something special, too. A whole bunch of new stuff. But then I realized while we're are Who fans, we still have different tastes and favorites. For instance I never want to hear Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere live from them ever again. But I would love to hear Happy Jack and continue to hear The Kid's Are Alright, Baba 'O Riley, and Won't Get Fooled Again. And IMO they have to play the last two, and I love it when they close a gig with WGFA. On the other hand I want to see the "Tommy Encore" done away with. Yet for others they want that and couldn't care less about Baba and WGFA. So I realize it's about compromise these days. And yeah, I want to hear I Can't Explain, Substitute, and My Generation. So hopefully what we will get is a nice show of standards where everyone will be happy, some "fan favorites", and as the tour comes to the states 3 or 4 new cuts. I know four is optimistic, but with this band of players you never know. But if they can rotate the set around every so many nights and also please everyone with the familiar that would be good enough for me.

That said, I am very excited about the new album. I don't think they would of done it if they couldn't make it good.

Yea Robo, I wish they would play Armenia too man.

[QUOTE=BraveUlysses]Good choice with the LaL. You'll never look at the Who the same way afterwards. [/QUOTE]

just finished listening to the 1st cd of LaL. You were right, my view of The Who have changed. They are amazing live. The new album wont match the greatness of their past albums but it brings a new world tour and hopefully they can stop here in Australia. All tracks of the 1st cd were great, although i wasnt as interested in "A Quick One, While He's Away". The exteneded version of "My generation" rocks and "Young Man Blues" and "Shakin' All Over" are my personal favourites after my first listen. Hoping to listen to the second cd tonight

new album better than 'terrbile as It's Hard'.. Pate can only dream of writing as good songs as Athena,Cry If.,Eminence Front etc. it ain't gonna happen. He ain't able to write that good memorable and catchy songs, you can forget new album having that good classic tunes altogether... like I said it.
Besides Roger have already talked in couple interviews about one song that is
catchy POP tune (to him of course).....

Like I said one thing is propably pretty certain. It's going to be different kind record once again. Man hasn't done same kind of records ever so I doupt he wll start now ???

Pop is fine. The Who have always made pop records and Pete has always written them. I think the quality of this record will surprise a lot of people. I don't know why, though. I'm noy skeptical at all. On the contrary. I'm fairly ceretain it's going to be good by it's own standards.

[QUOTE=wanderer]new album better than 'terrbile as It's Hard'.. Pate can only dream of writing as good songs as Athena,Cry If.,Eminence Front etc. it ain't gonna happen. He ain't able to write that good memorable and catchy songs, you can forget new album having that good classic tunes altogether... like I said it.
Besides Roger have already talked in couple interviews about one song that is
catchy POP tune (to him of course).....

Like I said one thing is propably pretty certain. It's going to be different kind record once again. Man hasn't done same kind of records ever so I doupt he wll start now ???[/QUOTE]

take your pessimism somewhere else

i just finished listening to LaL both cd's now and tommy live is great but just misses the greatness of the first cd. (by justa little bit!)

[QUOTE=Guitarist_]take your pessimism somewhere else[/QUOTE]

apparently you haven't read my messages about the new record...

[QUOTE=Guitarist_]take your pessimism somewhere else[/QUOTE]
Nah man, it's cool. Wanderer has been with us here off and on for awhile. I would say he is welcome. As are most. Albeit he can be a pain in the arse with his Pete praising and Who bashing, he's definitlely a Who fan. Pessimism and all....

Theres always multiple sides to every argument, can't do anythign about it...

I've been MIA from this thread for a while. So when's this new Who record due out?

I'm gunna miss entwistle on the new album, but I don't think it will be a bad record.

On another note, I bought Who's Missing on sale yesterday, and I must say other than Heaven and Hell, I was quite let down.

[QUOTE=Guitarist_]i just finished listening to LaL both cd's now and tommy live is great but just misses the greatness of the first cd. (by justa little bit!)[/QUOTE]

Yeah I agree. And I'd agree with you on the highlights of the first disc (Young Man Blues, My Generation etc...).

I have a good feeling about the new album too. But really, none of us can be sure about anything.

I don't think the new album has a release date, but sometime in the fall.

[QUOTE=zabbit82]Theres always multiple sides to every argument, can't do anythign about it...I've been MIA from this thread for a while. So when's this new Who record due out?[/QUOTE]
Apparently a "mini-opera" will be released first by the name of Wine & Glass. I think it's just eleven or twelve minutes long. I don't know what to expect of that. Sounds kind of strange. A full and completed album, which is still untitled, will be delivered to Polydor on June 28 and they will then set up marketing and a release date. Shouldn't be long after that. I would think a release date close to the start of the American leg of the tour would be desired. As robo said, fall or late summer.

"Mini opera" will 30-35 minutes long album IF what Pete said is true. Altough he really should let go that silly "opera" term at this point when advertising it.... I maybe wrong (please correct if I am) that it will include "classical orchestral kind of part" too ???, Pete played on this weeks ITA show a video from the orchestral recording session which is part of the album/ "mini opera" ???? or was it for some other project. Did you watch the show...

^No, dammit. I missed it this week because of WMP problems. And yes, I agree, the "opera" term has been over used and played out. Sometimes I have no idea wtf Pete is going on and on about. I've always viewed The Who as a very basic and creative rock n roll band. Terms like "opera" need not apply. It makes it sound pretentious. I think it was perhaps appropriate in the '60s for lack of a better term and reference, but these days it just sounds dated and weird.

Pete also played "Here for More" (Daltrey song,).. Pete playing Daltrey tune..hhhmmm....isn't that the sign that world is about to end.. :)
he also played "Cut My Hair" on piano, Sheraton Gibson...

Ah, man. I would of loved to of heard Cut My Hair on piano. And Sheraton Gibson is a small gem. And yeah, the world must be upside down with Pete playing a Daltrey tune. Must be the impending date of 6-6-06 at work or something. I'm sorry I missed that....

I of course meaned to write '"Mini opera" will be 30-35 minutes long on album' not '"Mini opera" will 30-35 minutes long album'
hopefully my bad english didn't confuse anyone...

cheers

Looks as though Pete's brothers band Casbah Club will be opening the tour. They claim to be a "Mod Rock" band, but I've listened and they sound like a fairly standard hard rock band to me. Although their excellent musicianship and some interesting songs save them. Very experienced players, one and all. The drummer and rthymn guitar player are from the band Big Country, who were always known for being a very tight unit. Might be worth getting to the shows early for if you are going...

I almost bought the Tommy/Quad DVD the other day but decided not to blow all my money. Hopefully it will come down below $35 bucks soon, I'd have to throw aside all of my morals to pay that much for a DVD.

Yea that is a little over the top. I paid $25 for mine copy (Best Buy had a sale when it first came out), and I think that price is right.

Yes, I also have been waiting. Check Amazon regularly. But then even with a sale S&H will inflate the cost. I'd be willing to go $30 all included, but no higher.


EDIT: $31.00 free shipping, before tax. I'm not quite ready to bite yet...

EDIT 2: Used from $17.00! 103 available. I think I may be hooked...

I would go used. Cheaper price and just a tad bit less than perfect quality.

On Amazon they have the "Used and New from x" price, but some of those are supposedly in new condition and are cheaper than the Buy Now price. I've never bought anything from one of them, but I'm going to try it on my next amazon order to see if it's legit.

the other day my friend thought baba o riley and we dont get fooled again were the same song.