[QUOTE=Laztec]I know this has been asked a thousand times. But can you recommend an Opeth album that I should start out on?

Thanks:thumb:[/QUOTE]
Well, a good way to start would be on Still Life, methinks. It's a very strong impression of what the band is about.

Or Blackwater Park, as it is usually easier to find in stores, and still a good starter album.


Back to the drummer discussion. If Lopez joined in with Mike and Steve, it would probably sound a lot similar to stuff we've already heard (the Opeth albums with Steve on them..) or if PTs drummer joined, it would probably sound like Mikael joins PT. If Portnoy joins... well, it could be something intirely new.

They would be making a mistake to limit it to those 3 drummers though...

Yeah, but it IS Portnoy, people here are just saying they use one of these 2 instead.

[QUOTE=Stoo]They would be making a mistake to limit it to those 3 drummers though...[/QUOTE]
Are they limiting it to those three drummers?

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Yeah, but it IS Portnoy, people here are just saying they use one of these 2 instead.[/QUOTE]
Oh have they selcted him already?

I see...

Will be intresting no matter what drummer.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Is there any Opeth fans from Sydney here?I was just wondering if they are going to be doing any in-store signing at Utopia Records?[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.utopia.com.au/sections/instores/]Doesn't look like it[/url].

I was hoping that they'd do an in store in Brisbane as well, at Skinny's Music. They did one there last time they were here. Unfortunately, stupid Coheed And Cambria is taking up all the instore spaces, by the looks of things.

[QUOTE=Shadius]The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me.
[/quote] So I take it you've never heard Blackest Eyes, then? Sound of Muzak? Creator Had a Mastertape? Halo? :confused:
[quote]
The guy has good groove, definately,
[/quote] Understatement of the century.
[quote]
I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.
[/quote] It's not an issue of toning down. Although Mike does overplay from time to time, it's the fact that he plays with such unbelieveable disregard for groove, feel, or finesse that bothers me about him.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Understatement of the century.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.

[QUOTE=Thor]I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think it's the opposite. Most people don't know how good he really is.

I'm definitely not saying that he's bad or anything, but all I'm saying is that tons of Opeth fans like to say that he's one of the best drummers ever. I don't think he's like to 10 worthy or anything, but he's certainly a solid percussionst.

[QUOTE=Thor]I'm definitely not saying that he's bad or anything, but all I'm saying is that tons of Opeth fans like to say that he's one of the best drummers ever. I don't think he's like to 10 worthy or anything, but he's certainly a solid percussionst.[/QUOTE]I have never heard any Opeth fan, or anyone for that matter say hes the best ever.

Well I was exaggerating there, but I just know that Opeth fans say that he's one of the best drummers in metal.

If you want to talk about the most talent in Opeth, let's stick to talking about Akerfeldt. :thumb: I actually think that he is one of music's best musicians right now.

I'm a huge fan of the guy's in Dream Theater/Liquid Tension Experiment. I just wish Labrie would shut the hell up, you know? I hope that the project does get recorded, and I feel confident that Portnoy will pull of something great. I honestly think everyone here is totally underestimating his abilities. However, I think the most interesting drummer proposed so far (in this thread) is Abe Cunningham from Deftones. THAT would be perfect!

[QUOTE=Thor]Well I was exaggerating there, but I just know that Opeth fans say that he's one of the best drummers in metal.

If you want to talk about the most talent in Opeth, let's stick to talking about Akerfeldt. :thumb: I actually think that he is one of music's best musicians right now.[/QUOTE]

I think Lopez is by far the most technically gifted member of Opeth. The guitar playing in Opeth isn't that impressive, really. Could you clarify what you mean by "musician"?

Well we can all dream, but that would never happen. I bet Portnoy will come in and do a great job, despite what people may think.

[QUOTE=Toaster]I think Lopez is by far the most technically gifted member of Opeth. The guitar playing in Opeth isn't that impressive, really. Could you clarify what you mean by "musician"?[/QUOTE]
Maybe I should have said songwriter instead.

Thats quite a better word. Akerfeldt is amazing.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Portnoy isn't versatile though.. He's got no groove and sense of dynamics, Lopez and Gavin Harrison (PT's drummer) is in a completely different league to Portnoy[/QUOTE]


Agreed.

[QUOTE=Thor]I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.[/QUOTE]

He wasn't talking about Lopez, he was talking about the drummer for Porcupine Tree

I like Lopez's work on My Arms, Your Hearse the most I think. His display of technicality throughout the album is superb.

Honestly, I think Lopez's best work is on D&D. The whole Damnation album, and Deliverance's title track. They win.

I don't know...the drums on [I]Karma[/I] alone seem to be more advanced then anything on Deliverance and Damnation combined to me.

Some of the grooves on Windowpane are quite advanced.. And Deliverance (the song) has some of my favorite drum parts..
I haven't listened much to My Arms, Your Hearse though, since I don't own it, so I wouldn't know

It's definitely worth owning if you like Opeth. I think the album has some of their best work in all areas.

I love his drums on Damnation...he uses a rather minimalist kit, and manages to craft some beautiful drum lines out of them...

I agree with Shattered.

np. Closure:D

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Some of the grooves on Windowpane are quite advanced.. And Deliverance (the song) has some of my favorite drum parts..
I haven't listened much to My Arms, Your Hearse though, since I don't own it, so I wouldn't know[/QUOTE]
Not to mention Lopez's beats are very original.

[QUOTE=Crysiss]I agree with Shattered.

[B]np. Closure:D[/B][/QUOTE]

Case in point.

You were the one that made me want to listen to that track.

Well, I feel happy that I did now. :p

Round 3 of my question:
[QUOTE]Hey, I tried this a few months ago and got like 2 responses before I was drowned out in the usual "official thread" mindless banter, but here goes...

I recently got my copy of Lamentations signed by Opeth at Scrape Records in Vancouver. It's super cool, but I can't tell whos signature is whos! Does anyone else have anything signed by Opeth that they can compare this to to help me out? Can anyone identify these scribbles?

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...l/c2417ecb.jpg[/url]

I'm pretty sure the bottom right is Per Wiberg, but beyond that I'm lost![/QUOTE]

Oops! My image for this link is no longer here...

[QUOTE=Flynn]It's definitely worth owning if you like Opeth. I think the album has some of their best work in all areas.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. You haven't fully experienced the band until you've heard every song they have.

Has anyone heard Steel?

Or I Hate Hip-Hop:p

I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?[/QUOTE]
Mine does that, as I'm sure everyone else's does, too. And I really, really don't know why. I guess Mr. Wilson had a bit too much nose candy that day.

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?[/QUOTE]

This is from the Perth Show. Post taken from somebody on another forum.

[QUOTE]Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure (w/ extended Improv)
Under a Weeping Moon
*power goes out*
Martin Axenrot drum solo
*power back in*
Under a Weeping Moon continued
The Grand Conjuration
The Leper Affinity
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Deliverance

Obviously the drum solo and power outage weren't part of the show proper but was due to the stupid venue and their faulty fuses. There was a power outage just before Eternal were due to go on as well, which caused a delay. Mikael handled it all like a ****ing champ though.[/QUOTE]

Oh, how I despise The Forum.

:upset:

I need a fake id sooo bad.

damn wish i could see opeth or tool live it would make my life...

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?[/QUOTE]
They'll probably play "Ghost of Perdition" and "The Grand Conjuration" because they need to promote the new album. They'll also probably play something off of Deliverance (probably the title track) and that's about all I can guarantee you.

Just be prepared for an awesome time! :thumb: