[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16449078]You're an idiot, Deathcrush IS a classic no matter how **** their other material was, and beats the **** out of anything else you listen to[/QUOTE]

i totally didn't say that deathcrush is the only album of their's that i like

i'd also like to point out that you more than likely have only the vaguest idea of what i'm into

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now you know!

i expect a lot of comments about how gay hardcore is from male fellator

I'm listening to Daudi Baldrs by Burzum. The only difference between this album and the albums preceding it is the instrumentation used. If Daudi Baldrs were played on metal instruments nobody would doubt it being black metal and it would be far better rated. It makes me think that people are too narrow minded and go too much by how it sounds rather than what it is. People should really look beyond the instrumentation and see the same Burzum there that was there in Det Som Engang Var. Hlidskjalf is very different in construction - unless I'm mistaken. I'm going to to listen to that next.

the songs themselves are good, if a tad too repetative, but the keyboards sound really cheesy

daudi baldrs is my favorite Burzum album so yeah

well youre a ****ing faggot >:[

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[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450292]daudi baldrs is my favorite Burzum album so yeah[/QUOTE]

i really dont have a favorite burzum album - they're all brilliant. the only one i have a problem with is filosofem because i think the whole thing is a bit too repetative, especially the latter half.

im partial to det som engang var, personally

i think its the breakdowns

[QUOTE=Stevie II;16450137]Of course I'm a bit late coming into this but I'd like to make a couple of points,

cael (?), although DMDS came out rather late there were many influential and important black metal releases before it; [b]beherit, archgoat, [/b]darkthrone, immortal, burzum, [b]VON [/b]all made their most important contributins before DMDS was released...particularly pure holocaust for influence in the icy tremelo stuff you talked about.

other than that i agree with what you say. attila made much of what DMDS is, so dead on vocals would have changed the album a great deal, for worse if it was anything like his live performances. if you're serious about understanding black metal DMDS is absolutely essential, whether you enjoy it or not. i've got some albums that i don't enjoy very much but i own them and listen to them anyway so that i can understand their importance and influence.

also everyone please stop rating storm of the light's bane above the somberlain plz kthx[/QUOTE]

[b]Irrelevant, completely different style/s of BM than anything Mayhem ever did[/b]

[QUOTE=Charizard;16450266]i expect a lot of comments about how gay hardcore is from male fellator[/QUOTE]

Yea, I didn't look at it. I knew you like core though... there is SOME (very little) good hardcore... I like old grindcore, crust and powerviolence though. Bet you wouldn't have dreamt of that.

mf do you like cripple bastards?

i was moreso expecting comments about modern hardcore is what im saying, clearly youll like the oldschool stuff, but its funny, what with the fact that theres tons of good grind (not scenegrind) out now, and yeah sieg heil crust and pv

but i mostly listen to screamo and metalcore, which is probably way outside your tastes so yeah

And surprise surprise mappy you listen to **** core

nah nigga, im just equally into emotional melodic music and chaotic faster paced shi

**** like orchid and bucket full of teeth = the supreme combo, fast, raw, and emo as ****

also, stfu and listen to skycamefalling and integrity

population reduction about the only good recent grind ive heard

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450346]And surprise surprise mappy you listen to **** core[/QUOTE]

answer my question you butt

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450343]mf do you like cripple bastards?[/QUOTE]

Band rules.

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450338][b]Irrelevant, completely different style/s of BM than anything Mayhem ever did[/b]



Yea, I didn't look at it. I knew you like core though... there is SOME (very little) good hardcore... I like old grindcore, crust and powerviolence though. Bet you wouldn't have dreamt of that.[/QUOTE]

There is plenty of good hardcore, don't be stupid.

Wow, you are actually pretty cool.

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450338][b]Irrelevant, completely different style/s of BM than anything Mayhem ever did[/b].[/QUOTE]

i know, i'm just saying that DMDS wasn't the start of black metal as we know it.

Atilla almost ruined DMDS, I don't care what anyone says. Unique or not, his voice just ****ing sucks.

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450386]answer my question you butt[/QUOTE]

haven't heard


mass namedrop for what i like in core

Amebix, Anarcrust, Antisect, Extinction of Mankind, Hellbastard, Hellkrusher, Hiatus, Anti-Cimex, DS13, Infest, **** on the Beach, Siege, Stack, Anarchus, Magrudergrind, Nausea, Nuclear Death...

[QUOTE=Stevie II;16450410]i know, i'm just saying that DMDS wasn't the start of black metal as we know it.[/QUOTE]

To be honest, you people, for all your glaring inelite faults, are collectively more knowledgable than most other places on the internet for BM, aside from chatrooms/p2p. If you're talking about the typical BM fan, the 16 year old with a Emperor poster on his wall, then DMDS is the definitive BM album for him, it spawned most of what he listens to. Not to detract from the album itself, and no I'm not saying Emperor is similar to DMDS that was just an eg... if you get what I mean

Anyway I'm gonna try and rap this up by saying that DMDS defined and spawned the more mainstream branch of BM

[QUOTE=Malfeitor;16450568]To be honest, you people, for all your glaring inelite faults, are collectively more knowledgable than most other places on the internet for BM, aside from chatrooms/p2p.[/QUOTE]

now theres a narrowed down compliment :-/

It's true though... most other places on the net that discuss black metal... the most elite thing they listen to is Under a Funeral Moon...

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;16450292]daudi baldrs is my favorite Burzum album so yeah[/QUOTE]

haha i was at fye the other day and saw burzum and was like oshi but then it was daudi baldrs

[QUOTE=Charizard;16450307]im partial to det som engang var, personally

i think its the breakdowns[/QUOTE]

Det Som Engang Var is indeed the most quality.

Mysticum btw

[QUOTE=Angmar;16450802]Det Som Engang Var is indeed the most quality.[/QUOTE]

its so ****ing badass sounding, which isnt normally what im looking for in a black metal record

[QUOTE=Stevie II;16450410]i know, i'm just saying that DMDS wasn't the start of black metal as we know it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah obviously not, I was just saying that album definitely had the most widespread impact considering the events occurring at the time and it was the embodiment of most if not all musical elements that are considered to be part of black metal. Sure some of those bands you mentioned, in particular the Norweigan ones had releases before but hell, Mayhem were playing much of the songs on DMDS in like 89-90 when a large number of those bands you mentioned were still playing Death Metal or just discovering what Black Metal is. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the bands were even heavily influenced and built on the groundwork Mayhem laid down with those songs considering how tight knit the scene was at the time. The other bands were far behind as Mayhem has been doing black metal for quite some time before them so it just seems to me they had to rush and release whatever they could at the time because it was starting to pick up.

i think dmds would be much better with different vocals, like i know you think they sound "evil" as hell, but to me, atilla just sounds like hes got a lot of phlegmn in his throat

Eh I think they're really haunting and ominous sounding.

idk, cant dig it for some reason, i like dead's vocals (i used to hate them, i know blah) because he just sounded so batshit insane

Yeah Dead does have some good vocals but its always been hard for me to imagine him on DMDS.

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16451153]Yeah obviously not, I was just saying that album definitely had the most widespread impact considering the events occurring at the time and it was the embodiment of most if not all musical elements that are considered to be part of black metal. Sure some of those bands you mentioned, in particular the Norweigan ones had releases before but hell, Mayhem were playing much of the songs on DMDS in like 89-90 when a large number of those bands you mentioned were still playing Death Metal or just discovering what Black Metal is. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the bands were even heavily influenced and built on the groundwork Mayhem laid down with those songs considering how tight knit the scene was at the time. The other bands were far behind as Mayhem has been doing black metal for quite some time before them so it just seems to me they had to rush and release whatever they could at the time because it was starting to pick up.[/QUOTE]

yeah i forgot to mention that they were playing the DMDS material that early - maybe not 89 but certainly leipzig was recorded late 90. i think dead was responsible for the majority, if not all of the lyrics to DMDS. the focus is certainly morbid and cold rather than euronymous oriented belief in a 7 horned devil.

if it wasn't for euronymous' murder though how important would the album have been?

It would have still been important I guess because Mayhem were still one of the most important bands in the black metal scene anyways prior to the murder. Im going to say it would have still been one of the most important releases for the Norweigan black metal scene but it would not have been elevated as high.

Yeah if Euro didn't die and that lineup continued after to release more it definitely wouldn't be as important.

[QUOTE=1338 h4x0r;16450850]Mysticum btw[/QUOTE]

Now thats a ****ing killer album, one of the best from Norway id say.