[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Hi gice,
Just thought I'd upload some of my recent Bodom recordings for ya'll to hear.
I think they're ok except the tone, which I can't help with my setup atm.
The only full song is Sixpounder which I uploaded a few pages back.

[b]Living Dead Beat[/b]
[url]http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LE2PMCCNI03F3A1WXXFT7HS7W[/url]

[b]Wrath Within interlude[/b]
[url]http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FN260DKQRJXY3EVGAE905GJ3K[/url]

[b]Passage to the Reaper Demonstration #2[/b]
[url]http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3VGLVA9M9OLUF2PS1DCQNA1TII[/url]

[b]Sixpounder[/b]
[url]http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3QQHV6B04Y5FV3B61QAQ6E80J5[/url]

Yer, lemme know what you think, ta.[/QUOTE]


Very Very nice.

Keep up the good work

here is an intro (or an idea for an intro) i wrote yesterday, but meanwhile i don't know if its good and it sounds a little bit "false"... i don't know.
tell me what you think about it.

[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/hollenthon02.mp3"]recording (inspirated by Hollenthon *g*)[/URL]

an alternative version (to be exactly its the first version) of the same intro....
[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/hollenthon01.mp3"]alternative version[/URL]

Hollenthon!!! \m/


I'll take a listen.

EDIT: It sounds cool add some Rhythm. :)

(That's not 4/4 is it?)

[QUOTE=Silenius]Hollenthon!!! \m/


I'll take a listen.

EDIT: It sounds cool add some Rhythm. :)

(That's not 4/4 is it?)[/QUOTE]
oh... i think you will be disappointed :lol:

it is in 4/4 (i think so *g*)

[QUOTE=repcak]oh... i think you will be disappointed :lol:

it is in 4/4 (i think so *g*)[/QUOTE]
Well the Rhythm sounded tricky, I had trouble hearing when the phrase started and ended.

Sounds cool. It's a very happy little thing, I just think there's one note that sounds out of key, other than that it's good.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Sounds cool. It's a very happy little thing, I just think there's one note that sounds out of key, other than that it's good.[/QUOTE]
one note... i know that there is something false... would it be possible to say which note? i can upload the *.gp3 file

[QUOTE=repcak]one note... i know that there is something false... would it be possible to say which note? i can upload the *.gp3 file[/QUOTE]
Yeah, upload it. :)

the *.gp4 file:
[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Hollenthon%20Inspiration 02.gp4"]Hollenthon Inspiration 02[/URL]

would be great, if you could say which note is wrong... i'm not the best one in theory :( it suks

It's the last note of bar 3. You have an F# in which seems to be a CMaj riff.
Change it to an F or G and see how you like it, I prefer G myself.

[QUOTE=repcak]the *.gp4 file:
[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Hollenthon%20Inspiration 02.gp4"]Hollenthon Inspiration 02[/URL]

would be great, if you could say which note is wrong... i'm not the best one in theory :( it suks[/QUOTE]
I think you might want an F instead of F#, it has a more C Major feel, and your version is in G Major.


/Beaten by MRDuCran :(

oh.. and i thought f# would be ok... to be serious i thought its another note... but well. ok... i will change it and will try it once again.

Also, the timing may sound weird because theres an 8th note missing in the last bar. At the moment it only plays 7/8 so it sounds jumpy when it repeats.

[QUOTE=repcak]oh.. and i thought f# would be ok... to be serious i thought its another note... but well. ok... i will change it and will try it once again.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to change anything really, it's just a suggestion. :)

[QUOTE=Silenius]You don't have to change anything really, it's just a suggestion. :)[/QUOTE]
to be serious i like f# more than f or g. is it really that wrong? can i leave f#? yes or not? for me it sounds correct

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Also, the timing may sound weird because theres an 8th note missing in the last bar. At the moment it only plays 7/8 so it sounds jumpy when it repeats.[/QUOTE]
that was my aim ... but maybe i will change it

[QUOTE=repcak]to be serious i like f# more than f or g. is it really that wrong? can i leave f#? yes or not? for me it souns correct[/QUOTE]
It's not wrong at all. You're just doing a lot of Cmaj outlining (C and G are the most common notes) so the F# is suprising because it indicates Gmaj instead of Cmaj.

Yeah whatever you like, have that, since it is YOUR composition, you decide exactly how it sounds.

About that 7/8 bar, if thats what you're trying to do, then it certainly works. :thumb:

hm... i think i should learn more theory about scales. any tips on websites, about lessons on the internet i could use? would like to know how you know if its a Gmaj or Cmaj only because you change one note (f# instead of g or f).... i just don't understand it. :(

edit: a slide at the end of the 4th bar would sound great :D

[QUOTE=repcak]hm... i think i should learn more theory about scales. any tips on websites, about lessons on the internet i could use? would like to know how you know if its a Gmaj or Cmaj only because you change one note (f# instead of g or f).... i just don't understand it. :(

edit: a slide at the end of the 4th bar would sound great :D[/QUOTE]

Go to Wholenote.com

they have lots of scales and some theory.

It sounds kinda...Irish to me

[QUOTE=repcak]hm... i think i should learn more theory about scales. any tips on websites, about lessons on the internet i could use? would like to know how you know if its a Gmaj or Cmaj only because you change one note (f# instead of g or f).... i just don't understand it. :(

edit: a slide at the end of the 4th bar would sound great :D[/QUOTE]
Well C major is:

C D E F G A B C

And G Major is:

G A B C D E F# G

So the F# is the only different note. I suggest getting a basic theory book to understand/learn more theory.

thank you. now i understand it... but yeah, a basic theory book is a good idea. have to ask for one in my guitar shop near me :)
and wholenote.com ... i forgot about this page. thanks


one more question: do you 'learn' scales or do you learn the notes inside out

[QUOTE=repcak]

one more question: do you 'learn' scales or do you learn the notes inside out[/QUOTE]
No theres a pattern.

Major scale:

1 whole step
2 whole step
3 half step
4 whole step
5 whole step
6 whole step
7 half step

its the intervallic relationship of the major scale...


modes are the same pattern, just with a different root

ah... thanks

but how do you operate with it, while writing a song or solo? do you have to think what notes are on the fretboard and which notes you can play, or do you learn scales (i.a.w.: you know all scales c,d,e,f,g,a,b). its a lot to learn (too much) to know all minor, major, etc. scales. the only scale i know is the a minor pentatonic, and therefore i have difficulities writing solos ... i hope you understand what i want to say :/


/me is listening to Hollenthon - domus mundi album \m/

hey Mitch...

I listened to your covers. :thumb:

They were excellent. I liked the Passage To The Reaper best.

The soloing was perfect.


You should form/get in a band... Your really damn good.

[QUOTE=repcak]ah... thanks

but how do you operate with it, while writing a song or solo? do you have to think what notes are on the fretboard and which notes you can play, or do you learn scales (i.a.w.: you know all scales c,d,e,f,g,a,b). its a lot to learn (too much) to know all minor, major, etc. scales. the only scale i know is the a minor pentatonic, and therefore i have difficulities writing solos ... i hope you understand what i want to say :/


/me is listening to Hollenthon - domus mundi album \m/[/QUOTE]



well, you could really memorize one box from like the E to e strings, and you could formulate the solo there, then mess around with different octaves to get it to sound perfect


u could also write it on paper, and learn it later

[QUOTE=Man_Made_God]hey Mitch...

I listened to your covers. :thumb:

They were excellent. I liked the Passage To The Reaper best.

The soloing was perfect.


You should form/get in a band... Your really damn good.[/QUOTE]

Ah thanks man.
I was proud of that actually, the only thing is I had just finished recording one of the 75% panned rhythm parts and forgot to put it to centre for the solo so it's slightly right.

I'm apprantly in a band but it's drop C chugga chugga stuff and it gets annoying after a while. Even though Bodom use drop C for AYDY, it's still very creative imo.

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]well, you could really memorize one box from like the E to e strings, and you could formulate the solo there, then mess around with different octaves to get it to sound perfect


u could also write it on paper, and learn it later[/QUOTE]
is it the way you write your own stuff?
i want to know how you all write solos ... to compare it with myself.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Ah thanks man.
I was proud of that actually, the only thing is I had just finished recording one of the 75% panned rhythm parts and forgot to put it to centre for the solo so it's slightly right.

I'm apprantly in a band but it's drop C chugga chugga stuff and it gets annoying after a while. Even though Bodom use drop C for AYDY, it's still very creative imo.[/QUOTE]

I dislike the chugga chugga stuff. :p

[QUOTE=repcak]is it the way you write your own stuff?
i want to know how you all write solos ... to compare it with myself.[/QUOTE]
Write a chord progression, then use arpegios/scales that compliment the progression.

with the intro above i'm able to play only a Gmajor chord (as background) ... nothing more, right!?

[QUOTE=Man_Made_God]I dislike the chugga chugga stuff. :p[/QUOTE]

Yer, they overplay Killswitch Engage songs. If I hear My Last Seranade one more time, I might have to hang myself.

[QUOTE=repcak]with the intro above i'm able to play only a Gmajor chord (as background) ... nothing more, right!?[/QUOTE]
No you can play any chord in the Gmaj scale, Emin, Gmaj etc. I can't really say when to use what chords since every phrase can have a different chord progression depending on the lead part.

would such a chord progression be ok (i changed the intro into Cmaj ... G instead of F#)?
-------------------------------
-------------------------------
-------------------------------
------5------2----2---------3
------5------2----2---------3
00003-0-0-0-0-0-0000-1

well, the rythm isn't correct above... but the chords would be ok for a Cmaj intro part!?

[QUOTE=repcak]would such a chord progression be ok (i changed the intro into Cmaj ... G instead of F#)?
-------------------------------
-------------------------------
-------------------------------
------5------2----2---------3
------5------2----2---------3
00003-0-0-0-0-0-0000-1

well, the rythm isn't correct above... but the chords would be ok for a Cmaj intro part!?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they would be. :)

[QUOTE=repcak]is it the way you write your own stuff?
i want to know how you all write solos ... to compare it with myself.[/QUOTE]
After you write the rhythm, play around with lead stuff until you find something that sounds good. It's that simple. Don't make things overly complex by trying to relate everything you do to theory. People were composing some of the world's greatest music before there was theory to explain it, so the same applies to the modern times. The golden rule of music is if it sounds good, use it. If it doesn't sound good, don't use it. There's no need to confuse yourself during an otherwise simple process.

great... the rhythm part is a little bit tricky, to write it on GP :)

so i just made some background chords and a little riff... whats missing is an interlude ... but i will go to bed now and will work on this tomorrow... but maybe you want to hear it :D

[URL="http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/hollenthon.mp3"]Song (no name)[/URL]

Well everyone. The new issue of Guitar World came in today. Alexi was featured in it showing a few practice licks (nothing Bodom related) and he tabbed out the solo to "We're Not Gonna Fall". It seems a little hard... Oh well, I wish he would tab out all of Angels Don't Kill for once. Or Tripple Corpse Hammerblow.

I wouldn't buy it for that, it's on mysongbook.
I was going to buy the beginners one but I thought I'm not paying £15 for a bunch of licks I already know.