[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Are you asking because you want me or do I come off that way? :confused:


Anyway if you read my info you'd know I have a girlfriend. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Actually cause I miss read something posted on you my space blog. Youre not gay. kool. :)

Opiate and Undertow are definatly rock. Ænima, is probably rock to though they start to come close to metal. Lateralus in my opinion is metal. Sure it has a lot of soft parts, but its got some extremly heavy parts, like the heavy part (most of) the Patient, some of the Grudge, Ticks is probably metal but the heaviness is mainly from the vocals, the riffs aren't really heavy. Most of the heavy parts in Lateralus are metalish but it has lots of soft stuff.

I donno... their just metal to me.

[QUOTE=herbtones]Actually cause I miss read something posted on you my space blog. Youre not gay. kool. :)[/QUOTE]
Ha. :lol:

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Opiate and Undertow are definatly rock. Ænima, is probably rock to though they start to come close to metal. Lateralus in my opinion is metal. Sure it has a lot of soft parts, but its got some extremly heavy parts, like the heavy part (most of) the Patient, some of the Grudge, Ticks is probably metal but the heaviness is mainly from the vocals, the riffs aren't really heavy. Most of the heavy parts in Lateralus are metalish but it has lots of soft stuff.

I donno... their just metal to me.[/QUOTE]

Lateralus seems the least "metalish" to me... it's more experimental and has a mellow vibe in most songs.

The funny thing about what you're saying DoG is that Tool consider Opiate to be their only metal effort. :p They put their most thrashy stuff on Opiate, and so poeple thought that they were a metal band, but it turns out, they're much more. :cool:

I perceive Lateralus as their lightest album :-/

Lateralias- Good idea. I'm mainly going off what the actual members of Tool consider their selves. I read somewhere that Adam cringes when Tool is called metal. :p

Tool is metal, prog metal.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]The funny thing about what you're saying DoG is that Tool consider Opiate to be their only metal effort. :p They put their most thrashy stuff on Opiate, and so poeple thought that they were a metal band, but it turns out, they're much more. :cool:

I perceive Lateralus as their lightest album :-/

Lateralias- Good idea. I'm mainly going off what the actual members of Tool consider their selves. I read somewhere that Adam cringes when Tool is called metal. :p[/QUOTE]
I've always had the idea, not seeing much of the Undertow artwork that Lateralus was their darkest album. Kage agreed with me on this a while back.

Has anybody heard the new track that danny recorded with some other people called Ampersand?

Opiate isn't that heavy. Aggressive yes, but I donno if its metal.

Heavy and classifying things under genre's is subjective. To each to his own.

Their darkest!?!? I think that their albums decrease in darkness as they have been released. Undertow is almost depressive, Ænima is just angry, and I think that Lateralus is very uplifting. Meh, to each their own. Why do you think Lateralus is their darkest album?

Undertow is thier darkest album by 2035982390572093750892375982398758923659823 times its really a dark album.

Theyre a prog rock band.:)

i would say that aenima is the closest ur gunna get to mteal whith tool

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Their darkest!?!? I think that their albums decrease in darkness as they have been released. Undertow is almost depressive, Ænima is just angry, and I think that Lateralus is very uplifting. Meh, to each their own. Why do you think Lateralus is their darkest album?[/QUOTE]
I thought that Undertow only had one or two dark songs. The intro are almost all in major or pentatonic keys. Aenima has a more polished overall feel. If I had to give each album a color it would be like this: Lateralus would be dark purple, Aenima would be blue, Opiate would be grey, (I think the Hush music video influenced that) and Undertow would be yellow with black stripes.

If that makes sense........

usually when u think of aenima you thinks is a angry album, but once you take a look at each song there is much anger to be found, just raw emotion.

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]I thought that Undertow only had one or two dark songs. The intro are almost all in major or pentatonic keys. Aenima has a more polished overall feel. If I had to give each album a color it would be like this: Lateralus would be dark purple, Aenima would be blue, Opiate would be grey, (I think the Hush music video influenced that) and Undertow would be yellow with black stripes.

If that makes sense........[/QUOTE]

ive always thought of aenima to be a mix of dark blue with green.

True, but music isn't just about theory and key sigs. Listen to the lyrics of each album. The songs on Undertow are some of the darkest lyrics I've ever heard. Lateralus on the other hand has songs about letting your grudges go, forgiveness, and astral projection. Granted, Ticks and Leeches is a very agressive and negative song, but the lyrics aren't as depressive as some of the contents of Undertow.

Really the only angry songs on Aenima is the self-titled and Hooker with a ***** IMO.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]True, but music isn't just about theory and key sigs. Listen to the lyrics of each album. The songs on Undertow are some of the darkest lyrics I've ever heard. Lateralus on the other hand has songs about letting your grudges go, forgiveness, and astral projection. Granted, Ticks and Leeches is a very agressive and negative song, but the lyrics aren't as depressive as some of the contents of Undertow.[/QUOTE]
Well a combination of the key sigs. and tone create the atmosphere. As for lyrics, take J-Rock for example. The lyrics are dark and disturbing but the music is like 60's/70's rock.

Also I don't think Ticks and Leeches is even the darkest song on that album. I think the second darkest one is The Patient, minus the part where a little light shines through.

i feel that ticks and leeches wasnt meant to be angry but more of a song directed at the fans. After Aenima we leeched onto the band and begged them for a new album and they gave it to use..."hope this is what you wanted, hope this is what you had in mind, cause this is what your getting" i think that is there way of say here it is guys hope you ****ing like it:)

Porcupine Tree is another good example. Their music is typically not very heavy or forboding, but the songs are also very disturbing. (Some of them, not all)

About Ticks and Leeches- I always thought it was about piracy. "You theiving basta[B][I][/I][/B]rds" is all I can think of off the top of my head, but that was what made me think of people theiving their music. Either that or their whole music label crisis thing with Volcano.

undertow is pure anger on almost all songs. The aenima well. . . had mroe emotions but but sorta sensed anger for it.. and alteralus was just despair along with hope and other emotions

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Porcupine Tree is another good example. Their music is typically not very heavy or forboding, but the songs are also very disturbing. (Some of them, not all)[/QUOTE]
Musically that's the type of dark atmosphere that Lateralus is like to me.

I think the darkest song on Lateralus is Parabol before it goes into Parabola the only atmospherically light song.

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Well a combination of the key sigs. and tone create the atmosphere. As for lyrics, take J-Rock for example. The lyrics are dark and disturbing but the music is like 60's/70's rock.

Also I don't think Ticks and Leeches is even the darkest song on that album. I think the darkest one is The Patient, minus the part where a little light shines through.[/QUOTE]
lolol hows the patient the darkest?

Despair with hope, where the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck do you get this from? :lol:

[QUOTE=herbtones]lolol hows the patient the darkest?[/QUOTE]
Listen to it, it's the saddest song they've done until the climax of the build up.

dunno lol, am not to sure bout wat despaird means, I think its something negative? remebr we speak spanish in puerto rico:)

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Despair with hope, where the fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck do you get this from? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Wait, what are we talking about? :confused:

[QUOTE=Doomed To Crumble]i feel that ticks and leeches wasnt meant to be angry but more of a song directed at the fans. After Aenima we leeched onto the band and begged them for a new album and they gave it to use..."hope this is what you wanted, hope this is what you had in mind, cause this is what your getting" i think that is there way of say here it is guys hope you ****ing like it:)[/QUOTE]

what do you think about this?

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Listen to it, it's the saddest song they've done until the climax of the build up.[/QUOTE] perhaps but i dunno. The heavy part is jsut emotional. .. maynards vocals are sorta tragic, perhaps your right! :thumb: