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FunkMetalBass 09-14-2010 11:31 PM

[quote=Convectuoso;18181564]If your voice is shit, it always will be.[/quote]

And that was what I was hoping not to hear.

I've tried every timbre adjustment in the book, but I just can't get the bass response or presence of the vocals to come out in the recordings. My first thought was the look at the mic, because I'm recording directly into my M-Audio device.

Any good sources of information for recording vocals?

Epidemechanical 09-14-2010 11:50 PM

your voice is not going to change it sounds the way it sounds get used to it

see nasally vocalists who are utter success

greg puciato
mike patton
serj tankian
phil collins (lol, ever hear him live?)
maynard (lol bro listen to eulogy)

a mic isnt gonna change a damn thing some of the best vocals youve prolly ever heard were done with an sm58 or some shit

Epidemechanical 09-15-2010 12:01 AM

also why the fuck would you want bass response from your vocals?

you should be asking for [I]mixing tips[/I] for vocals not [I]recording tips[/I]

the former requires at least a genre

and because i know you play heavier music

there is no fucking reason ever that you should want low end response thats what you should be [I]avoiding[/I]

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 12:03 AM

My singer's got a fairly nasally voice, so do I, you just deal with it.

Convectuoso 09-15-2010 12:14 AM

[quote=FunkMetalBass;18182047]And that was what I was hoping not to hear.

I've tried every timbre adjustment in the book, but I just can't get the bass response or presence of the vocals to come out in the recordings. My first thought was the look at the mic, because I'm recording directly into my M-Audio device.

Any good sources of information for recording vocals?[/quote]
Lol get a better pre amp.


Most studio vocals are either a U47, a U87 or some other expensive mic or an esoteric mic choice decided by the engineer based on a myriad of different variables.


But.


An SM7 into a good pre is a very good choice.

Convectuoso 09-15-2010 12:14 AM

[quote=Epidemechanical;18182080]your voice is not going to change it sounds the way it sounds get used to it

see nasally vocalists who are utter success

greg puciato
mike patton
serj tankian
phil collins (lol, ever hear him live?)
maynard (lol bro listen to eulogy)

a mic isnt gonna change a damn thing some of the best vocals youve prolly ever heard were done with an sm58 or some shit[/quote]
Who's the first guy? I would google but I'm busy lol.

Epidemechanical 09-15-2010 12:15 AM

[QUOTE=Convectuoso;18182106]Who's the first guy? I would google but I'm busy lol.[/QUOTE]

Dillinger

gaslight 09-15-2010 07:02 AM

'sup Liam how are your lats bro

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 07:55 AM

My lats are fantastic, just by the by.

gaslight 09-15-2010 07:56 AM

Where's Brisvegas is it near Brisbane?

Sablate McNuff 09-15-2010 08:02 AM

Damn. I guess I just hate my voice then.

Any recommendations on a good mic pre?

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:05 AM

*S******s at own bad joke*.

Serious comment about this not trying to have a go or anything, but I think for a lot of people spending on some singing lessons would have more benefit than spending on vocal gear straight away.

EDIT: Rofl, you can't write "s n i g g e r".

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 08:08 AM

I'm getting a mic for backups, just a cheapy, I mean live vocals aren't that quality anyway and backup? Hell no, mostly I do 'oohzen ahhs'.

I'll probably get a 57 or a used sm58 if I can get one under $100. Lessons are definitely on my list of things to do.

And that was a bad joke.

Epidemechanical 09-15-2010 08:08 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight;18182357]'sup Liam how are your lats bro[/QUOTE]

i actually haven't been to the gym in 3 weeks

i have a pretty serious hand injury in my left hand and im not supposed to lift anything more than like 50 lbs or some shit for a while

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;18182435]I'm getting a mic for backups, just a cheapy, I mean live vocals aren't that quality anyway and backup? Hell no, mostly I do 'oohzen ahhs'.

I'll probably get a 57 or a used sm58 if I can get one under $100. Lessons are definitely on my list of things to do.

And that was a bad joke.[/QUOTE]

Living in Brisbane is a bad joke :p.

What's funny is that I was actually serious when I started typing it.

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:10 AM

[QUOTE=Epidemechanical;18182436]i actually haven't been to the gym in 3 weeks

i have a pretty serious hand injury in my left hand and im not supposed to lift anything more than like 50 lbs or some shit for a while[/QUOTE]

Dude that sucks, sorry to hear it.

I was trying some plyo push-ups the other day, hard stuff.

Sablate McNuff 09-15-2010 08:11 AM

[quote=gaslight;18182431]*S******s at own bad joke*.

Serious comment about this not trying to have a go or anything, but I think for a lot of people spending on some singing lessons would have more benefit than spending on vocal gear straight away.

EDIT: Rofl, you can't write "s n i g g e r".[/quote]

I've had vocal lessons. I'm content with my ability to match notes, and I'm getting much better with my control, but I'm not happy with the timbre of my voice.

I also really need to start listening to my recorded tracks through my monitors and not my dinky headphones.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 08:19 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight;18182439]Living in Brisbane is a bad joke :p.

What's funny is that I was actually serious when I started typing it.[/QUOTE]

Everyone says that but I honestly don't think it's that bad.

I'm not sure what I want to do in the near future. Move with band potentially, keep doing uni or do not. Sigh a sigh.

I tried to get back with my ex too, rejected. Fail.

I'm actually quite upset by it too, not because it's not happening necessarily but more because I can't think of a legitimate reason why it shouldn't. I suppose that's just my side of it though. 0.o

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:22 AM

I thought you were the one who was telling how shit Brisbane was :lol:.

I can't come up with any consolation about relationships other than not to look for any logic in them because that's just not how they work.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 08:24 AM

Not that I recall.... It's ok, I just need a holiday I think.

Yeah I'm very well aware of that hahahaha

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:26 AM

People are garbage, the less you rely on other people the better off you'll be.

I suppose Sydney isn't bad, I could do with a holiday too I guess.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=gaslight;18182453]People are garbage, the less you rely on other people the better off you'll be.

I suppose Sydney isn't bad, I could do with a holiday too I guess.[/QUOTE]

So many people there though. I'd rather go to Melbourne...

Or France.

I just need to get away from everything atm.

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:33 AM

There are several people in both Melbourne and France haha.

I was recommending Sydney for a holiday, I don't think it'd be much of a nice holiday.

There are lots of quiet places on the East Coast where you can get by with rent of $150 a week and under, just really cruisey.

I got my TLC compressor today, going to spend most of tomorrow learning the ropes of it.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 08:46 AM

I have no idea where, I'm thinking road trip to nowhere.

gaslight 09-15-2010 08:48 AM

Desert brah.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 09:18 AM

I was thinking Darwin for no reason in particular actually haha

gaslight 09-15-2010 09:23 AM

How about Coober Pedy.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 09:25 AM

Don't be stupid!

Seiously though, I was thinking 2 week trip to Melbourne via probably Coffs, Sydney or Newy (one night each) then Mel for a week and same on the way back.

gaslight 09-15-2010 09:26 AM

I'm not even sure how to have a holiday, I don't know what I'd do.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 09:48 AM

Same thing you do at home, just somewhere else.

gaslight 09-15-2010 09:59 AM

That sure wouldn't be worth paying for.

FunkMetalBass 09-15-2010 10:10 AM

Yay, sold my Crate Powerblock

Spaceman Spiff 09-15-2010 10:12 AM

I bought a Fender Blues Deluxe the other day. It is effing amazing. And it cost me less than my Vox.

I need to sell my Vox now.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 10:16 AM

Anyone else hanging out for Bad Religions new album?

Spaceman Spiff 09-15-2010 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;18182571]Anyone else hanging out for Bad Religions new album?[/QUOTE]

It'll probably be good, but it'll probably also sound like every other Bad Religion album. They're really good at making that album.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;18182575]It'll probably be good, but it'll probably also sound like every other Bad Religion album. They're really good at making that album.[/QUOTE]

I agree, they certainly have a sound, but they're damn good at it.

I have read though, that they wanted to make this one somewhat different and in the last 3 or 4 albums they haven't pushed the envelope much.

Spaceman Spiff 09-15-2010 10:29 AM

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;18182582]I agree, they certainly have a sound, but they're damn good at it.

I have read though, that they wanted to make this one somewhat different and in the last 3 or 4 albums they haven't pushed the envelope much.[/QUOTE]

I haven't really been following them closely lately, but I heard a new song a little while back and it sounded pretty good.

I'll probably check out the new album.

funkyhoney 09-15-2010 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;18182591]I haven't really been following them closely lately, but I heard a new song a little while back and it sounded pretty good.

I'll probably check out the new album.[/QUOTE]

If you go on their myspace the first two tracks are off the new album.

I like then for the same reason I like a lot of the music I listen too. They have a definitive sound but also explore the limits of the genre they make, plus you can listen to most songs and enjoy it for what it is and also for the musicality of it and find subtle little nuances you never heard before.

Spaceman Spiff 09-15-2010 10:43 AM

Did you listen to my band's new song?

If you didn't: [url]http://www.myspace.com/capitalaitch[/url]

Lemme know whacha think.

We're mixing right now, the whole thing should be ready (mixed, mastered, printed) in about a month.

Epidemechanical 09-15-2010 10:47 AM

i dont understand how you can record a song and not mix it

also why would you upload something that doesnt even have such a basic finish as a...mix?

you realize that you probably did mix it

and you're incorrectly labeling mixing as [I]mastering[/I] or [I]post-production[/I]

song is ok but vocals get really grating and annoying at the heavier part


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