Deliverance
When
A Fair Judgement
Black Rose Immortal
To Bid You Farewell
Advent
Master's Apprentices
Ghost of Perdition
The Baying of the Hounds
Face of Melinda
The Moor
Blackwater Park
The Drapery Falls
Windowpane
To Rid the Disease

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off topic...so my first Opeth album wasnt Orchid afterall. Morningrise it was. Im realy liking it. I got this rerelease one where theres this demo. Its interesting...

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666]Well I got Ghost Reveries the other day, and I thought that it was pretty good. I have to admit that some of it kinda bored me, but Ghosts of Perdition and The Great Conjuring were pretty good.

I take it people here don't exactly like GR. Why is that?[/QUOTE]

The Grand Conjuration*

I love Ghost Reveries, by the way. I think that album has a lot more energy, and changes around a lot more than other Opeth albums. The riffs change more often, and it stays more interesting in a lot of ways. Granted, a lot of the riffs arn't quite as good as past Opeth riffs, but I still think most of them are great stuff, and I especially like the songwriting and the proggy feel.

I like it when bands I like change their sound without losing their integrity, and Opeth have done just that, while still keeping their core sound.

My next favourite is Still Life, so it's not like I only like new Opeth or anything, and [i]arguably[/i] that album has their most complex riffs/songwriting on it, generally.

As for Opeth songs to get you into Opeth, I'm not going to give you a huge list, these songs from BP did it for me:

Bleak
The Drapery Falls
Still Day Beneath The Sun (Bonus Track from Blackwater Park)

I found this interesting

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Blakkheim - Guitar
Dan Swanö - Guitar
Jonas Renkse - Bass
Axe - Drums


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That's kinda old Flynn.. that was in August I think. Thanks for that song you sent me, the drums were the first thing I noticed. :p

Ghost Reveries...

hmm. Well. I have to say I dislike the soft songs because of the sloppy songwriting, everything else was OK, in my opinion, being "Ghost of perdition" the ultimate highlight, and Beneath the mire my favoritest song out of the pack.

But I don't know. Eh, I like it.

On a related note, I'm still obsessed with Lamentations. I should get more DVDs.

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Ghost Reveries...

hmm. Well. I have to say I dislike the soft songs because of the sloppy songwriting, everything else was OK, in my opinion, being "Ghost of perdition" the ultimate highlight, and Beneath the mire my favoritest song out of the pack.

But I don't know. Eh, I like it.

On a related note, I'm still obsessed with Lamentations. I should get more DVDs.[/QUOTE]
Yuck, Beneath the Mire is crud. I suppose the end isn't so bad, but the first half of the song makes me want to gag.

The soft songs are too keyboard-ridden for me. The classical and folk styles of acoustic guitar playing that made Opeth sound so eerie and medieval are practically gone, and that's what hurts. Damnation kept those elements while also including keyboards, so it worked better.

And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]That's kinda old Flynn.. that was in August I think. Thanks for that song you sent me, the drums were the first thing I noticed. :p[/QUOTE]


Yeah it's old, I didn't see anyone post it on the thread, just wanted be sure.
Did you get all the songs? Scattered To The Four Winds is my favorite song from that album. I can't wait for SBI. :chug:

[QUOTE=Jude]Yuck, Beneath the Mire is crud. I suppose the end isn't so bad, but the first half of the song makes me want to gag.

The soft songs are too keyboard-ridden for me. The classical and folk styles of acoustic guitar playing that made Opeth sound so eerie and medieval are practically gone, and that's what hurts. Damnation kept those elements while also including keyboards, so it worked better.

And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. Well, I don't know, probably I have a thing for it because it was the first song I heard out of GR, so I play it quite often.

Now that I think about it, the song I dislike the most has got to be "hours of wealth". It just goes around with excessive instrumental, and excessive lonely vocal parts, which make me sad and angry and sad again.

Atonement has a nice vibe, though. And Harlequin Forest is fine too... but I don't know. I don't really love it.

[QUOTE=Jude]Yuck, Beneath the Mire is crud. I suppose the end isn't so bad, but the first half of the song makes me want to gag.

The soft songs are too keyboard-ridden for me. The classical and folk styles of acoustic guitar playing that made Opeth sound so eerie and medieval are practically gone, and that's what hurts. Damnation kept those elements while also including keyboards, so it worked better.

And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]

Im not taking a stab at your opinions or anything like that, but there are two things i want to make comments about.

This first one isn't actually directly at you. Its starting to annoy me how people can't get past the fact that those accoustic medievil elements are now gone from Opeths music. They have taken a new direction, and that in itself should be applauded. They could have stuck to that same style,knowing that it would make the fans happy, but they decided to make a change and i wish people would just deal with it.

And secondly, you (im sure it was you saying it, but i may be wrong) made a comment before about being dissapointed by the fact that there are many chugga-chugga, one chord riffs throughout GR, but you now comment on how The Grand Conjuration deserves more credit than it gets. Dont get me wrong, i love that song, but besides the asweomse intro, the first few minutes of that song is full of those easy, un-complicated riffs you are talking about. Granted, there is a cool solo, and some nice riffs throughout the middle, but for the last few minutes it again returns to those un-complicated riffs.
Like i said before, im not taking a stab, but i just wanted to point that out.

[QUOTE=Jude]And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]


That was my fav. on the whole album. I can't really judge too quick because I haven't really sat and listened through the whole album yet, but I've heard bits and pieces and from that, I found the intro to that song to be amazing.

Ghosts of perdition has some incredible vocals on it.

TGC is an awesome song. There are just better songs on that album such as GOP and BOTH.

I agree with Ghost Reveries isn't Opeth's best, although they do have some [i]HUGE[/i] highlights on it with Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds and The Grand Conjuration. I think it is sort of a transition album for Opeth, especially with the keyboards taking a more prominent role. At this point, they are either going to turn back to their shell and go back to their old sound, or try and refine their new one.

I hope they don't go back and try to attempt to release another Blackwater Park as their next album. I believe the new feel Opeth has gained has great potential, they just need a little work and revision on it. The next release from the Swedes should prove to be monstrous either way.

Either way, you'd get people complaining that they're either rehashing old sounds, or that they wished they had those old elements in their music still. Bands can't win, and I applaud Opeth for covering new ground and still sounding good rather than stagnating. You don't have to like the change, but do you really want to buy the same album over and over?

TGC on the album is horrible. TGC live is amazing, however, just because of the atmosphere it creates.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Either way, you'd get people complaining that they're either rehashing old sounds, or that they wished they had those old elements in their music still. Bands can't win, and I applaud Opeth for covering new ground and still sounding good rather than stagnating. You don't have to like the change, but do you really want to buy the same album over and over?[/QUOTE]


If they did something like Morningrise or Orchid again, you're goddamn right I would buy it.

[QUOTE=Flynn]If they did something like Morningrise or Orchid again, you're goddamn right I would buy it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you'd buy it, but in all likelihood it wouldn't be as good as Morningrise or Orchid, because you've already heard them before. It would feel like a few bonus tracks rather than a full album. Lauds to Opeth for [u]f[/u]ucking the expectations and trying something new. They pulled it off well, anyway.

[QUOTE=Flynn]If they did something like Morningrise or Orchid again, you're goddamn right I would buy it.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you would for another album, to see what they can do now, but another album after that? Psh, unlikely, it would be stagnated and repetitive.

Anyways, they'd never go back down that road, you might like melodic death metal more than their more progressive sound, but they don't. So many bands play in that style anyways, i'd rather have Opeth playing in their more original style.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Either way, you'd get people complaining that they're either rehashing old sounds, or that they wished they had those old elements in their music still. Bands can't win, and I applaud Opeth for covering new ground and still sounding good rather than stagnating. You don't have to like the change, but do you really want to buy the same album over and over?[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with everything you say. There's no point in making the same album over or going back to the same style they had years ago to make the fans happy. Ultimatley, Opeth are going to write music that THEY like and find interesting, not music the fans want.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Maybe you would for another album, to see what they can do now, but another album after that? Psh, unlikely, it would be stagnated and repetitive.

Anyways, they'd never go back down that road, you might like melodic death metal more than their more progressive sound, but they don't. So many bands play in that style anyways, i'd rather have Opeth playing in their more original style.[/QUOTE]

Okay, cool. That's your preference, and I respect it. On the other hand, I'd rather have [B]O[/B]peth record an Orchid, Morningrise based album. I love the style, guitars, drums, bass - everything. It's well worth a few more albums in that genre. But that will never happen, so I'll drop it.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Im not taking a stab at your opinions or anything like that, but there are two things i want to make comments about.

This first one isn't actually directly at you. Its starting to annoy me how people can't get past the fact that those accoustic medievil elements are now gone from Opeths music. They have taken a new direction, and that in itself should be applauded. They could have stuck to that same style,knowing that it would make the fans happy, but they decided to make a change and i wish people would just deal with it. [/quote]
I dig that. It usually does piss me off when fans whine about their bands changing styles and whatnot. I'm trying not to be one of them, but I DO miss the old acoustic style.
[quote]
And secondly, you (im sure it was you saying it, but i may be wrong) made a comment before about being dissapointed by the fact that there are many chugga-chugga, one chord riffs throughout GR, but you now comment on how The Grand Conjuration deserves more credit than it gets. Dont get me wrong, i love that song, but besides the asweomse intro, the first few minutes of that song is full of those easy, un-complicated riffs you are talking about. Granted, there is a cool solo, and some nice riffs throughout the middle, but for the last few minutes it again returns to those un-complicated riffs.
Like i said before, im not taking a stab, but i just wanted to point that out.[/QUOTE]
Nah, TGC isn't anything like the type of riff I was talking about. It doesn't even have any of that kind of riff in it. The weak points of TGC are the repetition (the main riff is cool, but it's repeated WAY too much) and the crap riff in the middle where he's going "whispered conjuration a belief takes form"...that's got to be the worst Opeth riff ever.

The type of riff I was talking about is present quite a bit in Harlequin Forest for example. I think it's the most prevalent in that song, but it shows up in all of the "regular" songs on GR.

Flynn: I do love Morningrise and Orchid (well not Orchid as much but Morningrise is definitely one of my favorites) and I really dig the dual harmonies, the aggressive technical bass playing and the acoustic styles on there, but at the same time I am glad Opeth have progressed. Unless they were to bring something very new to their old style, I don't think going back in time would be such a great idea.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I agree with Ghost Reveries isn't Opeth's best, although they do have some [i]HUGE[/i] highlights on it with Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds and The Grand Conjuration. I think it is sort of a transition album for Opeth, especially with the keyboards taking a more prominent role. At this point, they are either going to turn back to their shell and go back to their old sound, or try and refine their new one.

I hope they don't go back and try to attempt to release another Blackwater Park as their next album. I believe the new feel Opeth has gained has great potential, they just need a little work and revision on it. The next release from the Swedes should prove to be monstrous either way.[/QUOTE]

I agree. GOP and BOTH just sound so freakin' epic and progressive to me, while still being very heavy. The added drum presence with Lopez didn't hurt, either...this and Dam nation are IMO his best work yet. If I were to have any say on what Opeth does for the next record, I'd say to make it a little bit heavier. As a whole though, I like where their heads are...especially with some of the more experimental songs like Atonement

[QUOTE=Jude]I dig that. It usually does piss me off when fans whine about their bands changing styles and whatnot. I'm trying not to be one of them, but I DO miss the old acoustic style.

Nah, TGC isn't anything like the type of riff I was talking about. It doesn't even have any of that kind of riff in it. The weak points of TGC are the repetition (the main riff is cool, but it's repeated WAY too much) and the crap riff in the middle where he's going "whispered conjuration a belief takes form"...that's got to be the worst Opeth riff ever.

The type of riff I was talking about is present quite a bit in Harlequin Forest for example. I think it's the most prevalent in that song, but it shows up in all of the "regular" songs on GR.[/QUOTE]


Oh okay then, i misunderstood what you meant. Yeah that main riff definatley is repeated too much. Thats the kinda thing i thought you were talking about. Oh well, me is very tired today. :p

Any of you guys hear the bonus track off of Morningrise ? Eternal Soul Torture.

Yep,and i don't like it too much.

[QUOTE=vashts80]TGC on the album is horrible. TGC live is amazing, however, just because of the atmosphere it creates.[/QUOTE]

I think the opposite is true, live the song loses a lot of atmosphere, and gets boring after the main riff repeats for the hundredth time.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Any of you guys hear the bonus track off of Morningrise ? Eternal Soul Torture.[/QUOTE]

That song is really great, actually. I think it's one of Opeth's heaviest songs ever.

Meh, the quality is horrible. I read that the band broke the song apart and used peices of it in other songs. Example: that riff from "In Mist She Was Standing. the acoustic one.

Im realy liking The Night And The Silent Water.

I also read that, Black Rose Immortal was supposed to be in Orchid.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Meh, the quality is horrible. I read that the band broke the song apart and used peices of it in other songs. Example: that riff from "In Mist She Was Standing. the acoustic one.

Im realy liking The Night And The Silent Water.

I also read that, Black Rose Immortal was supposed to be in Orchid.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, im pretty sure some of the riffs in that song are used in Advent.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Yeah, im pretty sure some of the riffs in that song are used in Advent.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Akerfeldt mentioned that.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Any of you guys hear the bonus track off of Morningrise ? Eternal Soul Torture.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I deleted it because it sickened me.