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vai61 12-29-2004 03:09 PM

eh, i guess they shouldn't care, hes an amazing guitar player, he thought he was the shi,t, i dunno maybe im on crack

extreme_191 12-29-2004 03:20 PM

I just got Cliff 'Em All. It's as good as I was expecting, but I have one question.

In '83, when they're playing Whiplash with Mustaine, what exactly is Dave doing? It doesn't seem like he's playing sometimes, he looks really weird slouched over, and he solos witha capo. At least I think he does, that's how it looked like to me.

Anyways I concluded that Dave was being the drunkard ***-hole, in which I'm not surprised that he got kicked out. I would despise a band member of mine that wouldn't play strong throughout a concert and was just a complete ***.

I'm glad he had to take responsibility into his own hands to create Megadeth.

Also if Dave was to collaborate with Metallica, it would have to be Dave, James, Menza, and Robert T. I mean Kirk can just go surfing, and Lars can argue over lost money from Napster, and the cheapshot they pulled on Dave in their boring movie.

Although Cliff 'Em All is everything I'd like to see for Metallica, Megadeth is just that much better. Guitar work for Rust In Peace > any Metallica album.

R.I.P Cliff (the ultimate metal bassist), Metallica would of stayed true if you never passed away.

JACKROXYOU 12-29-2004 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=extreme_191]I just got Cliff 'Em All. It's as good as I was expecting, but I have one question.

In '83, when they're playing Whiplash with Mustaine, what exactly is Dave doing? It doesn't seem like he's playing sometimes, he looks really weird slouched over, and he solos witha capo. At least I think he does, that's how it looked like to me.

Anyways I concluded that Dave was being the drunkard ***-hole, in which I'm not surprised that he got kicked out. I would despise a band member of mine that wouldn't play strong throughout a concert and was just a complete ***.

I'm glad he had to take responsibility into his own hands to create Megadeth.

Also if Dave was to collaborate with Metallica, it would have to be Dave, James, Menza, and Robert T. I mean Kirk can just go surfing, and Lars can argue over lost money from Napster, and the cheapshot they pulled on Dave in their boring movie.

Although Cliff 'Em All is everything I'd like to see for Metallica, Megadeth is just that much better. Guitar work for Rust In Peace > any Metallica album.

R.I.P Cliff (the ultimate metal bassist), Metallica would of stayed true if you never passed away.[/QUOTE]

i know metallica suffered from cliff's death but jeez he couldnt have made many more awsome albums

Freezing Moon 12-29-2004 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=vai61]Sounds alright, but everyone knows mustaine and hetfield have their differences...[/QUOTE]

I said if they put aside their egos and fueds, then it would be cool.

[quote=extreme_191]

Anyways I concluded that Dave was being the drunkard ***-hole, in which I'm not surprised that he got kicked out. I would despise a band member of mine that wouldn't play strong throughout a concert and was just a complete ***.

I'm glad he had to take responsibility into his own hands to create Megadeth.

Although Cliff 'Em All is everything I'd like to see for Metallica, Megadeth is just that much better. Guitar work for Rust In Peace > any Metallica album.

R.I.P Cliff (the ultimate metal bassist), Metallica would of stayed true if you never passed away.[/quote]

My comments on the above parts of what you said...

1. They were all drunkards back then, Dave was just more so, and didn't get along. Yes, he did suck on that solo though, I know exactly what one you're talking about. Isn't it just as lame when the crowd takes Kirk's guitar though?

2. I'm also glad he made Megadeth because they're so fu[size=2]ck[/size]ing great.

3. Metallica wouldn't have stayed true anyway. They reached a peak, they had to go downhill.

Rasta Rocker 12-30-2004 12:08 AM

black album was without cliff and that was their mainstream peak...although in my opinion ...And Justice For All was their last awesome album

Freezing Moon 12-30-2004 12:14 AM

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]black album was without cliff and that was their mainstream peak...although in my opinion ...And Justice For All was their last awesome album[/QUOTE]

Agreed. In my opinion, "...And Justice" was a great album, but the beginning of their downfall.

Po0sH 12-30-2004 01:24 AM

Leper Messiah and Disposable Heroes are so underrated.

Huber 12-30-2004 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=Po0sH]Leper Messiah and Disposable Heroes are so underrated.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Those songs are amazing

Huber 12-30-2004 02:31 AM

I found the biggest disgrace ever. I was downloading the performances on the MTV Icon thing. I found the Snoop Dogg one of Sad But True. That is the worst performance ever. Ever, I mean it. Nothing gets worse than that. Metallica knew it too, you could see it in there faces. Looks like they were waiting for someone to go "Just Kidding!"

Note: Though, I think Sum41 did an awesome job with that For Whom The bell Tolls/Enter Sandman/Master of Puppets thing. I was impressed.

Freezing Moon 12-30-2004 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I found the biggest disgrace ever. I was downloading the performances on the MTV Icon thing. I found the Snoop Dogg one of Sad But True. That is the worst performance ever. Ever, I mean it. Nothing gets worse than that. Metallica knew it too, you could see it in there faces. Looks like they were waiting for someone to go "Just Kidding!"

Note: Though, I think Sum41 did an awesome job with that For Whom The bell Tolls/Enter Sandman/Master of Puppets thing. I was impressed.[/QUOTE]

That's why I don't bother with the whole MTV thing.

I don't understand why somebody would want to cover a Metallica song if they didn't sound remotely like Metallica. How could they not know that it won't be a popular cover and they'll butcher it? :confused:

Whenever I hear the words "Metallica" and "cover" together I run. Far, far away. Especially in the same sentence/paragraph as "MTV".

EDIT: You're right, Sum41's wasn't as horrible as I would have thought. At least they're giving it the effort.

Facsimile 12-30-2004 04:24 AM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]Whenever I hear the words "Metallica" and "cover" together I run. Far, far away. [/QUOTE]
What about Garage, Inc.?

Burdcheese 12-30-2004 04:43 AM

Well I enjoyed the MTV thing...
even though none of the people on it were as good as the real thing.

But there you go.

Not directly Metallica related, but its been mentioned above; what was the thing between Mustaine and Slayer about?

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 11:17 AM

after dimebag died, mustaine took it apon himself to repent and he said sorry to slayer and metallica for the bitter rivalry.

in my opinion the band fued may stop but the fan fued will never end

Mister_Che 12-30-2004 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]in my opinion the band fued may stop but the fan fued will never end[/QUOTE]

Indeed. In fact, I'm sure people are calling Mustaine a ***** since his apology.

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 11:20 AM

yea but what are you gonna do

life=guitar and gettin laid 12-30-2004 11:21 AM

Metallica
 
Metallica are one of the best bands of our time
thats a fact
they have all the makings of an amizing band
and thats what they are!!!
Can u say that u don't like turning up ur amp gettin out ur flange n playin enter sand man cause i can't

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 11:23 AM

what you talkin bout willis?

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 03:36 PM

so any one else want to talk about mustaine while we're here (no flamin)

Mister_Che 12-30-2004 03:49 PM

He received credit for Call of Ktulu right?

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 03:49 PM

not from me

Mister_Che 12-30-2004 03:52 PM

I mean he wrote Ktulu with James didn't he?

munky_magik 12-30-2004 03:54 PM

He wrote the intro chord sequence, which is why it is the same progression used in Hangar 18

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 03:56 PM

in the booklet they say they all did it

mustaine is only mentioned twice

Mister_Che 12-30-2004 04:01 PM

OK, there's my Mustaine input then.

btoto 12-30-2004 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=Burdcheese]
Not directly Metallica related, but its been mentioned above; what was the thing between Mustaine and Slayer about?[/QUOTE]

I'm not quite sure but it was between Dave and Kerry, not whole Slayer. I think it all began after Dave's interview about early days of Megadeth (Kerry played a few gigs with them when they had no second lead guitar). And I think Dave said that Kerry was a big poseur on stage and he couldn't even play guitar. All he did was to mess with his whammy. Dave also said he taught Kerry lots of things on guitar.

So after that Kerry didn't know how b*tch about Dave (he's a good guitar player indeed), so in his interviews he started to talk that Dave's the most horrible vocalist in Heavy Metal. And he said: "Whoever told that guy that he can sing must be shot" :wave:

btoto 12-30-2004 04:50 PM

BTW, yesterday I learned whole Unforgiven I. Actually I hate that song, I love UNforgiven II more but the guys in my band decided to play that so I had learn the song including the solo. It took me an hour and half to learn it. Very easy actually.

:p

Freezing Moon 12-30-2004 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=Facsimile]What about Garage, Inc.?[/QUOTE]

I guess I phrased that wrong. Covers of Metallica songs make me run, not songs that Metallica covers.

[quote=JACKROXYOU]so any one else want to talk about mustaine while we're here (no flamin)[/quote]

I think Mustaine is great. Some of Metallica's best songs wouldn't be as good without him. Personally I like him much better than Kirk, but not for Metallica. He just didn't fit right.

Chu 12-30-2004 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]I think Mustaine is great. Some of Metallica's best songs wouldn't be as good without him. Personally I like him much better than Kirk, but not for Metallica. He just didn't fit right.[/QUOTE]
Same :)
I often woner, what would Metallica be like with Dave.. But I kinda figured, it just wouldn't be the same without Kirk.

JACKROXYOU 12-30-2004 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Same :)
I often woner, what would Metallica be like with Dave.. But I kinda figured, it just wouldn't be the same without Kirk.[/QUOTE]

we wouldnt have megadeth

Chu 12-30-2004 09:06 PM

Yeah, I know...

Well, it would be kinda cool if they toured together and Dave played Lead for all of the Metallica songs he wrote, or added to...


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