I am looking for good zildjing hi-hats 100-250 CND For rock and other music is the 13" A MASTERSOUND HIHATS good?

check the New beats first.

Today i am going to pick me up either another crash or china. havent decided yet. Right now i have a 18 A Custom, and a 16 A custom Fast. I picked up a 10" a custom splash yesterday as well as new heads for everything. I had a china back in the day and never really used it so i am leaning towards a 17 A Custom or 17 A. What do you guys think about getting another crash or should i get a China, if so What do you guys Recommend. that would go with what i currently have. Thanks
The Cymbals i have now are

18 A custom
16 A Custom Fast
10 A custom Splash
21 A Sweet Ride
14" New Beats.

i need a new ride and new hats. right now i have those in b8s, with an 18 aax crash and a 17 aa metal x crash. thats the general sound im looking for. for hats, i want a good crisp chick when closed, and some controlled (don't really know the word to describe) wash. for the ride, i want kind of like a 60 ping/40 wash, or maybe 70/30. mostly ping with a bit of wash. what should i look for?

edit : i generally like the samples i hear of 13" hats, but i dont know if thats how they actually sound, because my cymbals sound nothing like the samples on those websites too.

hehe go for the 24 in giant beats the ping is always there with the most beautiful wash but theyre kinda warm so theres none of that high pitched ping.

After being a Zildjian A Custom whore for the past few years I finally sampled the Paiste Signature Cymbals. I now want to replace my current setup with Paistes (love at first listen).

I'll be going to a music shop to listen to a lot of them, but I was wondering if you guys can help me go in there with a little bit of a background.

I am interested in the signiture series to replace:

(All A Customs)

18" Fast Crash
16" Projection Crash
12" Splash
14" Mastersound Hi-hats
20" Ping Ride
18" China

I would like to add one other crash when I upgrade.

Any suggestions to try out or a list would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance.

PS: Once again I have no background on Paiste due to my ignorance. :(

after going to the paiste cymbal expo, i have decided to add a paiste 17 fast crash to my paiste 18 in full and fast crashes. They would make an excellent group of cymbals. The fast and full crashes i have now make a great pair. The full is higher pitched while that fast has a mellower lower pitch. My favorite is the fast. Definetly check ouy the 14 in paiste sig soundedges they are incredible hats. The giant beats are pretty nice also they have a smooth mellow sound so check those out. The chinas havent really impressed me a sig dry crisp ride would be nice.i really loved the sig mk1 splashes.

so the list would be
18in fast
18in full
17in fast(if you want to get more crashes)
14in soundedges
20 dry crisp
10 or 12 mk 1 splash

Thanks poppinfresh! I'll definitely check those out.

[QUOTE=sic__6__sic]i need a new ride and new hats. right now i have those in b8s, with an 18 aax crash and a 17 aa metal x crash. thats the general sound im looking for. for hats, i want a good crisp chick when closed, and some controlled (don't really know the word to describe) wash. for the ride, i want kind of like a 60 ping/40 wash, or maybe 70/30. mostly ping with a bit of wash. what should i look for?

edit : i generally like the samples i hear of 13" hats, but i dont know if thats how they actually sound, because my cymbals sound nothing like the samples on those websites too.[/QUOTE]

If you are looking at Zildjian check out the A Ping ride, it sounds like what your looking for, good ping sound with pretty good wash. Hats try A Quick Beats or A New Beats, IMO hte quickbeats are more crisper than then New Beats but the New Beats have more of the controled wash you want.

My knowledge of Sabian is fairly limited, but perhaps try XCelerator hats, wouldn't a clue on rides lol. One for Bobby.

[quote]i want a good crisp chick when closed, and some controlled (don't really know the word to describe) wash. for the ride, i want kind of like a 60 ping/40 wash, or maybe 70/30. mostly ping with a bit of wash. what should i look for?[/quote]

AAX Stage hats, and try the Medium hevy and Heavy rides....AA, Hand Hammered...your call really...AA for bright.

What would be good, versatile ride and crash cymbals that would sound good with zildjian new beat hi hats in the $100 - $200 range?

Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?

Cobalt: I would say A custom crashes, not too familiar with rides though.

[QUOTE=Queen Anne's Revenge]Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?[/QUOTE]
21 in A custom sweeet ride makes a nice crash.

[QUOTE=Queen Anne's Revenge]Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?[/QUOTE]

I swear to God, the 20" AAX stage ride has the best crash ever. Seriously. Try it out. I would even consider getting one just as a crash, not a ride.

no seet ride has a better crash

Thank you stevoibanez, I'll remember to check those out!

no, definetley try the 21 sweet ride it was made for crashing(not sure but it sounds like it was made with crashing in mind)

^^ I'll have to try one out sometime.

What are wavy bottom hi-hat cymbals for? Do they make the "chick" more pronounced?

Also do they crack more easily if the bottom is wavy? A guy on musiciansfriend said he went through two or three pairs of 2002 Sound edge hats in a year because of cracking.

^^ He must have ****ty technique
Wavy edges reduce airlock (in other words, suction, when you close your hats then open them, they kinda stay together?). I think they are also faster and more precise than regular hats

[QUOTE=Queen Anne's Revenge]Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?[/QUOTE]

how about looking at large crashes? a 20" AA Medium CRASH perhaps?

Whats about the smallest ride u can get?

I'm relatively new to drums, so I'm getting a ride now,
i play from rock to blues, so i'd need one that can cover
many sounds, could I have some advice please..

Well unless you custom order one, 18" is the smallest ride you can get.

thanx

[QUOTE=Rent the Devil]Whats about the smallest ride u can get?

I'm relatively new to drums, so I'm getting a ride now,
i play from rock to blues, so i'd need one that can cover
many sounds, could I have some advice please..[/QUOTE]

if your somewhat new to drums, and dont know what your looking for, look into a medium weight 20" ride.

I want a mid-low priced crash that makes a dark, but not too dark and long sound.

I mostly play rock and metal.

Wuhans! Or a 100 year old B8 cymbal!

Depending on what you consider low, I would look into AAX dark crash.

between 50 and 140 bucks

cool i looked em up. thanks guys

^^You could prob get a 16" AAX dark crash

:) thanks

which do you recommend out of the aax stage, vault or paragon (all 16")?
I play mainly punk music and which would complement a 18" aa medium crash

Hi Guys, first post woohoo!!
Looking for a crash to tone-match into my setup as to replace my stagg.
I play a mixture of music; hardcore/metal/jazz/low-volume.

I have:

14" Zildjian Hi-Hats
18" Crash-Ride
16" Zildjian K-Custom Special Dry
18" Stagg Medium
20" Paiste Dimensions Medium Raw
8/10/12" Wuhan Splashes
16" Paiste Alpha China
15" China

looking for a china
 

hey guys,

im looking to add a china to my kit but i dont really know much about them. i play most styles but focus mainly on rock/metal and sometimes punk, any suggestions as to what brands are good and what sizes i should be looking at appreciated,

thanks,

tom.

[QUOTE=Mars Ulrich]hey guys,

im looking to add a china to my kit but i dont really know much about them. i play most styles but focus mainly on rock/metal and sometimes punk, any suggestions as to what brands are good and what sizes i should be looking at appreciated,

thanks,

tom.[/QUOTE]

I own a paiste alpha 16" medium-heavy china thats good for both heavy and not so heavy music. i rate 'em.

whats the usual price range for a cymbal like that?

[QUOTE=bonney44]which do you recommend out of the aax stage, vault or paragon (all 16")?
I play mainly punk music and which would complement a 18" aa medium crash[/QUOTE]


well since youre playing mostly punk i wouldnt get the paragon. Id stick with the vault or the stage. I have the 16inch stage and i love it.