[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Relating to the whole Tool/Opeth discussion, I think Tool didn't really do anything amazing until AEnima, and especially even more on Lateralus. Their first two releases were good but nothing too special. I can't wait till the next one to see how much better it will be. I think Opeth are an overall better band, though.[/QUOTE]

Everything in this statement is fact :).

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Opeth > any band starting with an N or M[/QUOTE]

Wrong. Nightwish > Opeth. :p

Otherwise, that statement is 100% true.

Watched the quiet set of Lamentations today. All I can say is :amaze:.

It's beautiful. Watch it right away if you don't have it. Go get it.

Yea i got that dvd for my birthday, i really liked Leper Affinity, Deiliverance and A Fair Judgement. I liked the whole thing but i'd say those were my favorites.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Wrong. Nightwish > Opeth. :p
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... No

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Wrong. Nightwish > Opeth. :p
[/QUOTE]

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*slaps*


:P

Yeah, just no. lol

Speaking of Opeth and Tool. Does anyone hear the Tool influence on some of Opeth's material? Sometimes in the drumming/riffage, like on Ghost Reveries in Ghost of Perdition for example, with the tom beat and the simple riff. The softer parts of Deliverance remind me a little of Tool for some reason, too.

There's more, but it's only usually a small part of a song that has a Toolish tint to it. Though it's not suprising I guess, Opeth have cited Tool as one of their biggest musical influences, collectively.

I recall reading that they're all huge fans of Lateralus in particular.

It makes me wonder if Tool would like Opeth, and if they'd ever tour together. That would be amazing.

You people want to go? :mad:

I realized I probably shouldn't have said that in a thread full of Opeth fanboys...

I think I have an 80% chance of getting tickets for Opeth. Gotta keep working on my mom.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I realized I probably shouldn't have said that in a thread full of Opeth fanboys...[/QUOTE]
I realized I shouldn't have mentioned that I like Tool more then Opeth yesterday also... It really brought out the fanboys in this thread. :p

That's enough. [B]O[/B]peth should never be compared to any other band on this thread[B]. [/B]<- [I]Bold Period.[/I] You people all have your own taste which should not be displayed on a single band thread. If this proceeds, please take this to a chatroom to argue, discuss, or whatever. The last thing this thread needs is an opinionated war, especially from people that have been posting here forever. Yes, I have made my point clear on how I feel on the subject, and the more I think about it, I shouldn't have. I will never compare, levitate, or glorify [B]O[/B]peth to another band again on this thread. This is the point; [B]O[/B]peth is innovative, Tool is innovative, there's really no need to argue who's better or who is more talented etc etc. That's nonsense. It's like comparing a computer to an automobile. They're both innovative, but in a totally different and abstract range of ways. You can't say ''Gateway is better then Ford, they have had many changes.'' : That's totally out of context. With that note, please disregard anything I have had to say on this subject in previous posts. I love [B]O[/B]peth. I love Tool. Lets please change the subject.

Opeth > Nightwish

I love both though...

[QUOTE=Flynn]That's enough. [B]O[/B]peth should never be compared to any other band on this thread[B]. [/B]<- [I]Bold Period.[/I] You people all have your own taste which should not be displayed on a single band thread. If this proceeds, please take this to a chatroom to argue, discuss, or whatever. The last thing this thread needs is an opinionated war, especially from people that have been posting here forever. Yes, I have made my point clear on how I feel on the subject, and the more I think about it, I shouldn't have. I will never compare, levitate, or glorify [B]O[/B]peth to another band again on this thread. This is the point; [B]O[/B]peth is innovative, Tool is innovative, there's really no need to argue who's better or who is more talented etc etc. That's nonsense. It's like comparing a computer to an automobile. They're both innovative, but in a totally different and abstract range of ways. You can't say ''Gateway is better then Ford, they have had many changes.'' : That's totally out of context. With that note, please disregard anything I have had to say on this subject in previous posts. I love [B]O[/B]peth. I love Tool. Lets please change the subject.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that this is a forum for discussion exactly like this.

[QUOTE=Moses]The thing is that this is a forum for discussion exactly like this.[/QUOTE]


Over 4,000 posts, I'm sure you've read this.


[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224003[/url]

[QUOTE=JamJar]I'm now starting to like Pain Of Salvation more than either Tool or Opeth. I've pretty much been listening to Remedy Lane non-stop for the last week.[/QUOTE]

Not that I like them more than either band, but same here. Daniel Gildenlow is an incredible songwriter.

[quote=Flynn]That's enough. Opeth should never be compared to any other band on this thread. <- Bold Period. [/quote]

I'm sure there's nothing wrong with comparing Opeth to other bands in a different context. That's a good point you brought up though, other than the fact that the two bands are nothing alike, something like innovation is very subjective. You can't say which band was more innovative...the discussion was kind of pointless.

[QUOTE=Hells Bells]Not that I like them more than either band, but same here. Daniel Gildenlow is an incredible songwriter.



I'm sure there's nothing wrong with comparing Opeth to other bands in a different context. That's a good point you brought up though, other than the fact that the two bands are nothing alike, something like innovation is very subjective. You can't say which band was more innovative...the discussion was kind of [B]pointless[/B].[/QUOTE]

It's all good, there's no way anyone can stop this sort of thing. Music has passion, which is followed by obsession, which, again, is followed by a defensive state. It's good to see other people's opinions every once and a while, there's just a unique range of crossing that line that breaks the discussing into arguement. Anyway, my band can now play [I]In Mist She Was Standing[/I] completely. Our lead singer, Mike, is doing a great job. I couldn't ask for more talent. :chug:

haha yeah....like when arguements get reduced to my bad > your band :p

And good job getting In the Mist She Was Standing :thumb:

Um, there isn't an age restriction on Opeth concerts is there? I want to see them in April, and I turn 18 in May. If there is one, I think I'll jump off a cliff.

Alternatively, I could get a fake ID.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Over 4,000 posts, I'm sure you've read this.


[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224003[/url][/QUOTE]
The rules were being kept. Nobody was flaming either bands or anything and nothing got out of hand.

Tool > Opeth

Unless I'm in the mood.

[QUOTE=Moses]The rules were being kept. Nobody was flaming either bands or anything and nothing got out of hand.

Tool > Opeth

Unless I'm in the mood.[/QUOTE]
And that will end that.

Anywho, is anybody getting the GR Deluxe Edition?

I really like Opeth. My favorite ablum of theirs would be a battle between "Orchid" and "Still Life".

[QUOTE=Fimbul_Winter]I really like Opeth. My favorite ablum of theirs would be a battle between "Orchid" and "Still Life".[/QUOTE]

I think I'm gonna like you :).

btw, nice Amon avatar.

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]I think I'm gonna like you :).

btw, nice Amon avatar.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Both Amon Amarth and Opeth are fantastic:)

Nice, uh, avatar too. Not sure what it is, :amaze:

Hahaha, it's Circle Takes the Square, really good prog hardcore/screamo band from Canada.

I'm really happy somebody else mentioned [I]Still Life[/I] as their favorite though, in all seriousness I can never get over how great the clean acoustic part of [I]the Moor[/I] is.

I need more Amon Amarth.

Welcome by the way.

[QUOTE=Deth]I need more Amon Amarth.

Welcome by the way.[/QUOTE]
Make sure to get [I]Fate of Norns[/I] and [I]The Avenger[/I]

I like Versus The World myself.

[QUOTE=toaster135]I like Versus The World myself.[/QUOTE]

Me too, it's my favorite album by Amon Amarth.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Gotta keep working on my mom.[/QUOTE]

Careful how you phrase that. :naughty:

I would very much like to see Tool tour with Opeth. Unfortunately, Tool hasn't toured with ANYONE in the past year or so, so that kinda puts a damper on getting them to tour with Opeth. ;) I'm curious to see if they would do it....the only thing that would make me hesitant to think that they would is the fact that Tool is more in the habit of bringing along bands that influenced THEM (King Crimson, Meshuggah, Mike Patton) rather than the other way around.

I think Opeth is a big enough band now that they don't need to tour with a giant like Tool. Though that would be the greatest concert of all time.