[QUOTE=Fish]oh. She didn't say that me and her were going did she? :p[/QUOTE]

She told me to go because it would probably be the last chance I would get to see her.

[QUOTE=DaveIsWrong]If nobody else wants to do it, I have enough free time to do it for the next couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
I may take you up on that for the time being, we'll see. I have a week free anyways.

Well just let me know if you need me to. I'm more than up for it.

[QUOTE=Pazz]She told me to go because it would probably be the last chance I would get to see her.[/QUOTE]

oh, okay, yeah you two can have your little intimate moment

[QUOTE=Fish]oh, okay, yeah you two can have your little intimate moment[/QUOTE]

Alright, now that I have your permission.:p

Sup guys?

Matt, I thought of a new thing to do if a burglar comes in.

I'll hide behind my wall on top of the stairs, and its a right corner from the top, so as soon as he comes up, I'll swing at him with the opposite end of my bb gun knocking him down the stairs and maybe a concussion.

Just thought I'd put that in there cause I was thinking about it last night.

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g2goes :wave:

[QUOTE=Pazz]Alright, now that I have your permission.:p[/QUOTE]

:-\ yes.. permission. But seriously, you need to get a ride, you already missed ToC. Next time I see Atreyu live, im brining sunglasses cause i swear i couldn't see anything for the next few days.

[QUOTE=Form(of)dark]Sup guys?

Matt, I thought of a new thing to do if a burglar comes in.

I'll hide behind my wall on top of the stairs, and its a right corner from the top, so as soon as he comes up, I'll swing at him with the opposite end of my bb gun knocking him down the stairs and maybe a concussion.

Just thought I'd put that in there cause I was thinking about it last night.[/QUOTE]

Then, you can swing the paint cans at him and his tall, goofy, scruffy partner.

Holla! What's new?

-Gav

Sup Gav.

Jut wasting time, writing some band blurbs.

Debating a nap.

You?

vince sell me your drums.

Speaking of drums. I'm actually teaching myself pretty well, if I were to get lessons I could be getting better faster but I'm doing pretty good. I need to get new drums heads though, the ones I have now suck and they are beat up pretty bad.

nice, i got my drums for $125 off of a friend, Im way more into guitar though.

[QUOTE=Fish]vince sell me your drums.[/QUOTE]
Nah, I'm rather attached to them :p

In other news, the new Bouncing Souls album is really good :D

Zack: Self teaching is fine, I'm self taught on all instruments. New heads do wonders for bad sets though.

i was self taught on guitar for just over 2 years, before i decided to take lessons, and man... I improved so much quicker with the lessons, it was incredible, i could hear it in my playing

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Zack: Self teaching is fine, I'm self taught on all instruments. New heads do wonders for bad sets though.[/QUOTE]

Ya, I mean it's going pretty well, I just feel like I could be doing much better if I got some lessons. That's good to hear, because my set is not very nice at all, I'm going to invest on some nice new heads.

Im completely against lessons. Everybody I know that has ever taken lessons for an instrument sound the same when they play. Like, instead of using what they know and putting it into their music and being creative, they played what they were taught was right.

If you're really serious about it, go for a new set.

Its official.

Stadium Arcadium owns.

[QUOTE=Fish]If you're really serious about it, go for a new set.[/QUOTE]


No I just bought this set like 5 months ago. I'm serious about it but I'm going to play on this set for a while. Get some money and then get a real nice set if I am progressing and still into it.

[QUOTE=cobert]Im completely against lessons. Everybody I know that has ever taken lessons for an instrument sound the same when they play. Like, instead of using what they know and putting it into their music and being creative, they played what they were taught was right.[/QUOTE]

As opposed to peopel who haven't gotten lessons...who suck and can only do powerchords?

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]As opposed to peopel who haven't gotten lessons...who suck and can only do powerchords?[/QUOTE]

That's why you keep playing until you can do more than that. I primarily play bass, but i can still play more than power chords on guitar, even though ive never actually owned one myself. I think its better just to keep playing and learn to play for yourself.

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American Footbal is such a gay band, that i secretly like them.

Well its just if you keep playing and keep playing to learn by yourself, you could be learning so much faster from someone that already knows so much more than you.

[QUOTE=Fish]i was self taught on guitar for just over 2 years, before i decided to take lessons, and man... I improved so much quicker with the lessons, it was incredible, i could hear it in my playing[/QUOTE]
I still suck at guitar. But I can have fun with it and that's all I care about, I don't need to be a technical beast to enjoy my music.
[QUOTE=DepthsOfDreams555]Ya, I mean it's going pretty well, I just feel like I could be doing much better if I got some lessons. That's good to hear, because my set is not very nice at all, I'm going to invest on some nice new heads.[/QUOTE]
Well the only important thing to worry about is technique. Don't set yourself into bad habits you'll have to fix later. But drums have a huge learning curve. You'll progress slow for a long time, and then all of a sudden you'll just get it, and it all clicks and your skill will improve in leaps and bounds. Sweet, learn to tune and you can get a good sound.
[QUOTE=cobert]Im completely against lessons. Everybody I know that has ever taken lessons for an instrument sound the same when they play. Like, instead of using what they know and putting it into their music and being creative, they played what they were taught was right.[/QUOTE]
Depends entirely on the teacher. Formal music instruction can do that though, yes.
[QUOTE=Fish]If you're really serious about it, go for a new set.[/QUOTE]
No.

Set is the very last thing to upgrade, ever.

[QUOTE=cobert]Im completely against lessons. Everybody I know that has ever taken lessons for an instrument sound the same when they play. Like, instead of using what they know and putting it into their music and being creative, they played what they were taught was right.[/QUOTE]

okay, in lessons you get taught theory, now their are some people who can only play what they have been taught, but it takes a real musician to take what they have learned, and create into something new and different. So the people who you hear that sound the same are just people who get taught stuff and just keep playing it over and over. Its up to the person to explore different styles of their own, and create new sounds and ideas. And all of that comes from lessons, and being taught the theory.


/Vince, when i said "serious" i meant "serious" ...

Dave: I'm self taught and I incorporate more musical styles and ideas in some of my music than many Music majors I know, who stick primarily to Jazz. In fact most formally educated musicians just end up being Jazz nerds with a high contempt for other styles of music.

Serious as in like $10000 serious? Because honetly the kid needs, in this order: heads, cymbals, hardware, shells. Always buy top line stuff and he'll be set regardless. I'm just saying a set is the last upgrade you ever make.

OH MY GAWD I STILL HATE EVERYTHING. EXCEPT AMERICAN FOOTBALL, ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO HATE A BAND THAT GAY.

[QUOTE=fichy fich fich]but it takes a real musician to take what they have learned, and create into something new and different.[/QUOTE]

troof.

[QUOTE=cobert]That's why you keep playing until you can do more than that. I primarily play bass, but i can still play more than power chords on guitar, even though ive never actually owned one myself. I think its better just to keep playing and learn to play for yourself.[/QUOTE]

Chords was just an example. Anyone can look up chord forms on the internet real easy.

Looking up how to improvise solos and keys and key changes and everything is so much harder to understand without someone explaining it to you, and without practice with material designed for learning it. How many self taught people do you know who can improvise a riff over a progression and have it sound decent?

Even with lessons, experience is necessary, though.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution]Dave: I'm self taught and I incorporate more musical styles and ideas in some of my music than many Music majors I know, who stick primarily to Jazz. In fact most formally educated musicians just end up being Jazz nerds with a high contempt for other styles of music.

Serious as in like $10000 serious? Because honetly the kid needs, in this order: heads, cymbals, hardware, shells. Always buy top line stuff and he'll be set regardless. I'm just saying a set is the last upgrade you ever make.[/QUOTE]

He said his set wasnt very good, so i meant in serious as in a set that is quality, it doesnt have to be top of the line, but when you get into an instrument, you gotta make sure you're playing something decent other than the sets you buy out of the sears catalogue :-\ Like when i first started guitar i had one of the beginner sets that were a big huge bag of crap. And the frets were all messed up and body was weird and ****.. So im happy i bought myself i decent guitar to practice with, so i didnt get to used to playing with an amateur instrument that didnt sound good. My playing picked up when i moved onto something that was actually made for someone who wants to learn and play guitar

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution]Dave: I'm self taught and I incorporate more musical styles and ideas in some of my music than many Music majors I know, who stick primarily to Jazz. In fact most formally educated musicians just end up being Jazz nerds with a high contempt for other styles of music.[/QUOTE]

Depends on what instrument.

Educated drummers only know jazz. If you're a drummer, don't get lessons, they do not improve how you play.

Just listen to a lot of different styles of music and listen to how the drummers play.