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Shattered_Future 01-03-2006 01:02 PM

I hate Powertabs. It wouldn't let me click anything at my friend's house. :mad:

All the buttons were in weird places too...I kept pressing the wrong ones.

King_Of_Terrors 01-03-2006 01:06 PM

So you know how to work Guitar Pro?

Shattered_Future 01-03-2006 01:08 PM

Nope. Neither of those programs work on Mac. :)

See, all this MIDI **** is cheating, I think...you learn a lot better from getting a normal tab, sitting down with the song, and learning it by ear with the tabs to help you out.

King_Of_Terrors 01-03-2006 01:09 PM

But Guitar Pro sounds cooler because it has drums and everything, plus you can take out the guitar parts and substitute them with your playing :cool:

IheartSP 01-03-2006 01:12 PM

Plus with GP5 you get the whole real sound engine thing going to use it for backing tracks and such. The fretboard and keyboad are also lifesavers.

Shattered_Future 01-03-2006 01:13 PM

Whoop de frickin doo...

You know what else has backing tracks? The actual song. You cheaters.

IheartSP 01-03-2006 01:15 PM

The real song isn't a backing track, it's already got all the parts in it...

If it was cheating we'd all be amazingly famous guitar players, not sitting in our basement still practicing.

Toaster 01-03-2006 01:15 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Nope. Neither of those programs work on Mac. :)

See, all this MIDI **** is cheating, I think...you learn a lot better from getting a normal tab, sitting down with the song, and learning it by ear with the tabs to help you out.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this. If you really have trouble learning songs by ear, try transcribing the entire song, then check your transcription with an online one (assuming the online one is correct). Your ear will improve, as will your understanding of modern songwriting.

IheartSP 01-03-2006 01:17 PM

I don't see how GP affects your ear, if anything it makes it better. I'm able to tab entire songs, and it's thanks to guitar pro for that becuase after using it for so long I started to see a connection between my ear and the fretboard.

Shattered_Future 01-03-2006 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=IheartSP]The real song isn't a backing track, it's already got all the parts in it...[/QUOTE]

Exactly. The way that the actual band plays it, not somebody's interpretation. It works out better that way.

I have troubles figuring out songs by ear, so I use a normal tab. It works out better, you, the tab, and the actual song. It shows you if it's correct or not.

With a Powertab or a GP tab, you play along with the actual tab. There's no way to tell if the tab is correct or not unless you check the actual song, which, if you do anyway, there's no reason to use the tab.

IheartSP 01-03-2006 01:28 PM

I barely ever learn a song off a tab exactly the way they put it, more likely than not its a song I know in my head by heart and I correct the mistakes myself, like I mentioned earlier with the downfall tab. It's not like I'm a robot playing exactly what the tab tells me to.

King_Of_Terrors 01-03-2006 01:53 PM

[SIZE=2]Lots of GP tabs are inaccurate. I read them and play with them, then listen to the song and see if anything is wrong.[/SIZE]

MRDuCran 01-03-2006 01:55 PM

I use GP for writing mostly, and you can hear how your compositions sound with as many guitars as you want, keyz, drums so you get a full band sound.

King_Of_Terrors 01-03-2006 01:56 PM

Yeah, that is true there.

Shadows 01-03-2006 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]ohshi

i just tryed to play along with alexi with my guitar in drop c

but

he plays in drop d (dadgbe)

:eek:[/QUOTE]
Standard D actually. It's always D or drop C.

MRDuCran 01-03-2006 03:25 PM

No, that's why I put that face, because he plays in Drop D.

He's used C# standard before too.

Shadows 01-03-2006 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]No, that's why I put that face, because he plays in Drop D.

He's used C# standard before too.[/QUOTE]
What songs? :confused: I thought Alexi always used D standard or drop C.

MRDuCran 01-03-2006 03:41 PM

Everything off Something Wild I think.

Shadows 01-03-2006 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Everything off Something Wild I think.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. He played in Db/C# back then.

Shattered_Future 01-03-2006 03:52 PM

Db standard = coolest tuning ever.

Dark Tranquillity tuning. \m/

repcak 01-03-2006 04:05 PM

I like B tuning a lot... it sounds so heavy, and for me it sounds more natural than E tuning

btw Behemoth tuning \m/

Toaster 01-03-2006 04:09 PM

Yeah, I have a guitar tuned to E standard and B standard. B is really heavy.. and drop it to A and you have Nile! Nile songs are really fun to play.

MRDuCran 01-03-2006 04:54 PM

Indeed they are. I learnt Lashed to the Slave Stick recently, so cool.
I really want a tab for Sacrifice Unto Sebek. I tryed myself but got bored after about 5 minutes.

PsychoticFlubber 01-03-2006 05:34 PM

Maybe I am the only one who doesn't like low tunings... I love to play things like Behemoth and Arch Enemy which are tuned 1 and a half steps below standard... but I hate playing anything that is tuned 1 and a half steps down in dropped B... Playing things such as Slipknot annoy me to no end because most of the time the strings flap around and have horrible sound. I like bands that tune like that though... like Kataklysm.

Shadows 01-03-2006 05:37 PM

Then get yourself heavier strings. That makes all the difference. I love low tunings when it's all set up correctly, because then I can just turn up my amp and chug any mindless power chords and it sounds so brutal. :cool:

IheartSP 01-03-2006 05:38 PM

I ordered some Zakk Wylde strings so my tone will be much heavier than it is now, I use .10's.

Shadows 01-03-2006 05:39 PM

I'm using .10's right now, but I can't stand them. I'm tuned to C# to learn a Behemoth song, but I need at least .11's or it feels really sloppy to play.

Britton 01-03-2006 05:50 PM

I'm using tens on a Jay Turser LP style guitar. I tune down and turn up the OD
and I get a great Zakk tone.

are ya'll fans of Alexi's tone?

IheartSP 01-03-2006 05:52 PM

His tone is decent, a bit too crunchy at times for my taste, especially on FTR. My favorite rythym tone of all time has to be Jon Schaffer's tone, especially in the song Stand Alone. As far as lead I think Alexi does have a good lead tone, along with Jari Maenppa and Timo Tolkki.

Britton 01-03-2006 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=IheartSP]His tone is decent, a bit too crunchy at times for my taste, especially on FTR. My favorite rythym tone of all time has to be Jon Schaffer's tone, especially in the song Stand Alone. As far as lead I think Alexi does have a good lead tone, along with Jari Maenppa and Timo Tolkki.[/QUOTE]


Yea he has great lead tone. for some weird random reason it reminds me of comic books...is that strange or what?


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