Your opinion. I disagree. I think maynard is more mature than that.

^^^^ More mature than what? You do realize that Tool are not the most religious people in the world don't you? This is one of the reasons I became such a huge Tool fan. I was researching Metaphysical topics when I heard them writing music about them.

I just think that Eulogy isn't even about Jesus. It very well could be, and that was my first impression, but it could also be about L. Ron Hubbard. (See: Scientology) It could also be about a numerous other people.

Ken- Just in case you didn't know, your avatar got pwned during the server change, so you may want to reset it. It may not appear F'd to you, but it is. Just a heads up. :-D

I firmly believe that song is about Bill Hicks... And everytime I see Bill Hicks Anti-antismokers sketch, this is reaffirmed

my favorite tool song is schism

I don't think Eulogy is pertaining to Jesus really.

I'm thinking that he wrote it to someone as if he was portraying them as Jesus, whether it be in a sarcastic sense(which would make me lean towards L. Ron Hubbard) or in an actual holy figure. If the latter was true, then I'm really not sure who that would be.

Just my .02, take it or leave it.

Part of Bill Hicks show was to get his message out about how we are all one, and if everyone opened their third eye, they'd realise that there is no such thing as death and we'll all live forever bla bla.. or something like that... .. So I think that could fit in with your theory..

Was anyone here interested in hearing Cog or The Lateralus Code? If you were let me know and I'll YSI you some. :)

[QUOTE]Marshall, 3074326 did it, but some of it has to be redone. I'll IM him tonight to ask him when he'll be able to finish it, or he may pop in this thread, in which case, he'll probably see this and answer us. It is up on the Lachrysoundclick, which I shall copy/paste into this post so you can hear it [/QUOTE] jesus, my drum track ruined it :upset:

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I'm thinking that he wrote it to someone as if he was portraying them as Jesus, whether it be in a sarcastic sense(which would make me lean towards L. Ron Hubbard) or in an actual holy figure. If the latter was true, then I'm really not sure who that would be.

Just my .02, take it or leave it.[/QUOTE]

I firmly agree with this. Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard have their name all over that song IMO. Reading about the two clearly confirms this.

IMO Jesus wouldn't make sense. Jesus [i]did[/i] die for us (if that's what you believe), however Hubbard didn't, but claimed he would.

Edit:

Did you guys see the thread on TDN about the guy in Hastings? This guy says he went and pre-ordered the new Tool album and asked the guy when the date was, and the the guy said sometime around th 23rd.

Either this guy is playing a joke, or he accidently pre-ordered Lateralus on Vinyl.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I firmly agree with this. Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard have their name all over that song IMO. Reading about the two clearly confirms this.

What exactly do the Scientologists believe? I hear about them all the time but I have no idea what sets them apart.

I really don't know their exact beleifs, but I know Hubbard created this bogus religion that is aimed at the weak, insecure poeple looking for a place of solace. I know he exploits these people, and in turn takes their money, and is now rich, famous, and also a very sly piece of shi[B][I][/I][/B]t.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I really don't know their exact beleifs, but I know Hubbard created this bogus religion that is aimed at the weak, insecure poeple looking for a place of solace. I know he exploits these people, and in turn takes their money, and is now rich, famous, and also a very sly piece of shi[B][I][/I][/B]t.[/QUOTE]

He's also dead.

It doesn't mean the religion has died with him.

Bill Hicks is great...
I got his Flying Saucer CD or something like that, and its funny.
I thought that the sample used in Third Eye (the first one) was Maynard though, because I heard somewhere he was a comedian before Tool. But I guess its Hicks.

I might be terribly wrong about the comedian thing though, but I could have swore that I heard it from this thread.

He's just as dead as Dimebag.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]...but it could also be about L. Ron Hubbard. (See: Scientology)[/QUOTE]
**** L Ron Hubbard and
**** all his clones. :thumb:

I've never heard that about Maynard, but it may be true. I'm figuring out his life timeline, and between Westpoint and Tool, I don't see where he would have fit the comedian thing in. :p

To guy above me-That's from Ænema, but that does show Tool's hatred towards Hubbard and his clones.

IC36- Okay, what are you trying to say though?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]
To guy above me-That's from Ænema, but that does show Tool's hatred towards Hubbard and his clones.
[/QUOTE]

I know it is, I just felt it was appropriate given the subject of discussion, heh.

I just googled "basic scientology beliefs" and got all kinds of weird crap. I wont go into it but if you want to read about it it's all there. The sites look...cultish. Oh and "Scientology" is a registered trademark apparently. But it seems to be just another reincarnation cult that is "more about research about life than actual beliefs" or something like that. There you go. :)

Jake- That he's....dead and therefore not getting rich, currently.

Does anyone have Bill Hicks stuff saved on comp?

It's basically a cult disguised as a legit organized religion.

36- You get what I meant. :p

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]It's basically a cult disguised as a legit organized religion.

36- You get what I meant. :p[/QUOTE]

The most awful thing they did was convince a secretary of the WTC on 9/11 to join them. Talk about taking advantage of a person's emotions.

[QUOTE=In Chains]Does anyone have Bill Hicks stuff saved on comp?[/QUOTE]

I have:

Relentless
Rant In E-Minor
Dangerous
Arizona Bay

Want some YSI'd?

Im thinking about starting my own religion/cult. Who here would join? We will listen to Tool music at our services inside of strip clubs, and well sit around my laptop and randomly ban people

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]I have:

Relentless
Rant In E-Minor
Dangerous
Arizona Bay

Want some YSI'd?[/QUOTE]

YES!shiftonetimes10000

[QUOTE]Im thinking about starting my own religion/cult. Who here would join? We will listen to Tool music at our services inside of strip clubs, and well sit around my laptop and randomly ban people[/QUOTE]

Haha I hear that.

scienthology is for weak minded people

oMG AND HTINK FOR YOURSELF AND qeustion authority 2

I just had a sudden urge to listen to Eulogy and I'm fulfilling my needs right now......

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]YES!shiftonetimes10000[/QUOTE]
What he said.

[url=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34VEAHTG4L1Z421KY71A0LC0CZ]Bill Hicks - Rant In E-Minor[/url]

I will upload Relentless at some stage. Probably when I have more internet credit.

[url=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34HGNOA6E7LZI1NK7VUBF0GVU0]The Patient intro for The Lateralus Code[/url]
This has Mantra and Eon Blue Apocalypse layered over the intro, and I've also left the transition to Schism at the end.

And here's a couple of Cog tracks for you all. From what I've noticed, most people who like them are also pretty big Tool fans.
[url=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SQARKL6G5MQY33WTNR1KJIWOT]Cog - Bondi[/url]
[url=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3B57YJDBH6CWH0LM1YX3A5GXRO]Cog - Stretch[/url]
[url=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WUBV4Q7UHATI1MW26QD44TFKB]Cog - Real Life[/url]
[url=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24FDN2PHVTUP0268XWRFAF4YFS]Cog - Naming The Elephant[/url]

Sweet. I'll check out The Lateralus code bit, Bondi and Stretch, Which EP are the 2 from?

Bondi is from Just Visiting Part One.
Stretch is from Just Visiting Part Two.

Every track from the EP's are available for download at [url]http://www.sounds-like-lies.tk[/url] under the Media section.

Can someone upload "The Holy Gift" please?

that the patient was cool.

[QUOTE=herb]that the patient was cool.[/QUOTE]

I can upload the entire thing upon request. Although it will probably have to wait until I get Relentless up as well.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Im thinking about starting my own religion/cult. Who here would join? We will listen to Tool music at our services inside of strip clubs, and well sit around my laptop and randomly ban people[/QUOTE]

Someday...someday...

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]I can upload the entire thing upon request. Although it will probably have to wait until I get Relentless up as well.[/QUOTE]
Please!
Thanks very much man. I've been looking for that forever, I asked for it about a month ago, and no one had the version AJIG made.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Im thinking about starting my own religion/cult. Who here would join? We will listen to Tool music at our services inside of strip clubs, and well sit around my laptop and randomly ban people[/QUOTE]


Will there be beer, and yes even if you were serious i would join :thumb: