Ashton what now?

I'm thinking of getting a gym membership around here just to do lots of cardio work on a bike or something.

Morning All
I have been going to the gym for 4 months now and I wish I'd started 4 years ago!! Gotta do it man!!

sup guys

morning reading is always good

a lot goes on usually when we asleeps

[i]theres a world, going on underground[/i]

Miaow. Interesting discussion going on in the drum and percussion sub-forum about whether drums or piano are harder instruments to master.

idk mastering any instrument is quite a task is it not

unless its kazoo or something

for me id say piano, because youd have to gain a rhythmic skill, sight reading, full music theory to master that, whereas drumming wouldnt really require the music theory as much?

idk thats just my thoughts, i havent raed that section

Good drummers know more theory than pianists, I'd say. It's just that drummers apply it in their approach and thinking, where piano is the direct demostration of theory. I doubt many pianists would be able to discuss metric modulation to the depth that drummers can, for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookseller/Diagram_Prize_for_Oddest_Title_of_the_Year#Diagram_of_Diagrams

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lol i need that book

I wouldn't agree about good drummers knowing more theory than pianists.

Rhythm theory is one thing but you left out the wealth of melodic/harmonic knowledge that is required to be a great pianist.

But then you get into difficult territory, because if you're discussing what the truly great players do, you have to remember that most players aren't truly great players so you can't say "a great X would know more than most Ys", only great players versus other great players, and if they're all great players they won't have many chinks in the armour no matter instrument they play.

I'd say it's a fruitless discussion really. Every instrument has its own nuances and its own unique considerations as well as things it shares with other instruments. Every musician worth their salt should study a wide range of theory as well as practising their own instrument's specifics.

So yeah, there's no answer for that question as far as I'm concerned.

drumming is different to me because its incredibly physical, watching these guys pull of 300 bpm polyrhythms slowed down is jaw dropping

i wouldn't compare the two

[QUOTE=Aaron;17363482]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookseller/Diagram_Prize_for_Oddest_Title_of_the_Year#Diagram_of_Diagrams

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kdpAGDu8s

please sample the song in this for one of your tunes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulwer-Lytton_Fiction_Contest

These are okay.

[quote=gaslight;17363502]I wouldn't agree about good drummers knowing more theory than pianists.

Rhythm theory is one thing but you left out the wealth of melodic/harmonic knowledge that is required to be a great pianist.
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Well, most drummers actually have a fairly developed understanding of harmonics, but don't have a NEED to apply them beyond ingrained actions [ie. not doing across the bar fills when there's complex parts being played by others].

For example, when I gig I take two snares; one is tuned to C, and another to E# an octave higher [roughly], and change them out depending on the key of the song. I also generally have two rides in my setup for similar purposes.

I wouldn't say most drummers have a good understanding of harmony, most of the good ones do of course. But whoever discusses bad drummers anyway? :p

That's interesting about the snare tuning, when do you swap out the C, when C wouldn't be diatonic to the key of a song?

Haha yeah, bad drummers are a dime a dozen.

Actually, it depends on what type of musicians I'm playing with. If there isn't keys or horns I'll have the snare the juxtaposes the tone of the music [ie. if it's a slow-burner balad in a lower register I'll grab the higher tuned one], but if it's a fuller band I'll probably use the snare that compliments the sound of it more.

Hey Brad if you're out there man, I just learned that the British Open will not be on free-to-air this year. I am shattered, this is a travesty!!!!!

[QUOTE=Aaron;17363645]Haha yeah, bad drummers are a dime a dozen.

Actually, it depends on what type of musicians I'm playing with. If there isn't keys or horns I'll have the snare the juxtaposes the tone of the music [ie. if it's a slow-burner balad in a lower register I'll grab the higher tuned one], but if it's a fuller band I'll probably use the snare that compliments the sound of it more.[/QUOTE]

Ah nice.

I worked out if you tune one snare to C and one snare to F# then they each fit as diatonic notes within six of the twelve keys each but it probably doesn't work like that hey, too many overtones and everything. Tuning of a kit is so important though, I always respect a drummer who takes the time to think and tweak their kit.

That's brutal about the golf.

I had to vent, besides I'm playing Sat Sun and Mon so I shouldn't really complain, but I will and did.

Do they show golf at sports bars?

haha really? thats ****...i was thinking it was gunna be on that ONEHD sports channel but maybe not.

thats ghey

[quote=gaslight;17363672]Ah nice.

I worked out if you tune one snare to C and one snare to F# then they each fit as diatonic notes within six of the twelve keys each but it probably doesn't work like that hey, too many overtones and everything. Tuning of a kit is so important though, I always respect a drummer who takes the time to think and tweak their kit.

That's brutal about the golf.[/quote]
Yeah pretty much. You've gotta have a good ear to read the room to know what type of snare will suit it because the waveform for drums is odd and the pitch is lower to the ear the further you get away from them. Of late I've been gigging/jamming with a 3-ply 10"x14" Beech and a 12-ply 6x12" Walnut.

One day I'll have me a drum kit, one day.

[quote=prime possum;17363701]haha really? thats ****...i was thinking it was gunna be on that ONEHD sports channel but maybe not.

thats ghey[/quote]

annoyed much

I very much have nothing to do today.

[quote=gaslight;17363715]One day I'll have me a drum kit, one day.[/quote]
I have two kits, seven snare drums and something like 27 cymbals. I dunno where they all are actually, haha.

"I've lost a computer."
"What do you mean lost it?"
"It still responds to ping, but I can't find it."

:lol:

[QUOTE=gaslight;17363715]One day I'll have me a drum kit, one day.[/QUOTE]

I've always wanted one, and I still harbour that dream. Double kicks are to die for