[QUOTE=Quorthonace]Khanate is very cool. Capture And Release has been getting quite a bit of playing time from me lately.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, the vocals turned me off a bit at first but they do fit the ****ed up sound.

Last night I realized that Shape Of Despair - Angel Of Distress is one of the most emotional albums I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]Nortt are quite good.[/QUOTE]

I got their split with Xasthur, it's much heavier and emotional than the newer stuff...but the newer stuff just has this weird atmosphere that I love more.

In fact speaking of bands that aren't really doom, any fans of Doomsword or Spiritus Mortis?

Both bands have elements of doom but are much more in the epic metal vein.

Check em out people.

SOunds good.
I've heard the first by name, that's it.

I've been meaning to get some Doomsword.

Doomsword are godly, I have [I]Let Battle Commence [/I] and I love every second of it. They're so damn epic, like a mix between Viking and Doom Metal.

[QUOTE=Jondur]Neither are..[/QUOTE]

Excuse me, yes they are.

[QUOTE=Kage]Khanate is scary.[/QUOTE]
Khanate is one of the most amazing bands I've ever heard.


I love Stoner Metal from what I've heard of it. I'm in love with Electric Wizard.


[QUOTE=Luc214]Excuse me, yes they are.[/QUOTE]
No, they aren't doom...

[QUOTE=Magicaltroll]Khanate is one of the most amazing bands I've ever heard.


I love Stoner Metal from what I've heard of it. I'm in love with Electric Wizard.



No, they aren't doom...[/QUOTE]

Swallow The Sun isn't doom? Then what are they?

[QUOTE=Luc214]Swallow The Sun isn't doom? Then what are they?[/QUOTE]
I thought you said Nightwish and that other band were.

Your post was confusing, sorry.

Been listening to The Melvins quite a bit lately. Good stuff.

[QUOTE=Luc214]Swallow The Sun isn't doom? Then what are they?[/QUOTE]

Slow atmospheric death metal with keyboards.

Show me the link with Pentagram and St Vitus and maybe I'll accept that they're doom metal

[QUOTE=Jondur]Slow atmospheric death metal with keyboards.

Show me the link with Pentagram and St Vitus and maybe I'll accept that they're doom metal[/QUOTE]

Saint Vitus is [i]classic[/i] doom.

Swallow The Sun is death/doom, Draconian is gothic doom, etc.

Different branches is all.

No. St Vitus is Doom Metal.

I understand subgenres. I know that black/death is death metal with elements of black metal. But surely by that reasoning death doom should sound a teansy weany bit like doom metal?

Put it this way. Most people accept that Pentagram were the first doom metal band. In the same way that most people accept that Death (or Possessed) were the first death metal band. You can trace a lineage from Scream Bloody Gore to say Behemoth or even Swallow the Sun. But there is not one element of Pentagram or Vitus, or Trouble, or any other Doom Metal band in Swallow the Sun.

Usually I let this go (see early pages for similar arguements) - it's just you were pulling someone up on genres and then getting it wrong yourself.

Anyway Type O are a lot more doom than Draconian!

I suppose every music review site has the genres wrong then.

That's just a cop out man.

Call em doom death if you want but try and explain why they should be called that. The fact remains that they have nothing to do with doom. The name doom death just came about to describe Paradise Lost because they were doing really slow death metal and people didn't understand it. they never sounded like doom at all. But people equate slow with doom. Which in itself is bollocks. There's loads of uptempo doom.

[QUOTE=Txus]Doomsword are godly, I have [I]Let Battle Commence [/I] and I love every second of it. They're so damn epic, like a mix between Viking and Doom Metal.[/QUOTE]

I have yet to find a band that sounds like them dammit! Scald (\m/) are somewhat close though.

I've never heard of Scald, if they sound like Doomsword I should check them out.

[QUOTE=Jondur]That's just a cop out man.

Call em doom death if you want but try and explain why they should be called that. The fact remains that they have nothing to do with doom. The name doom death just came about to describe Paradise Lost because they were doing really slow death metal and people didn't understand it. they never sounded like doom at all. But people equate slow with doom. Which in itself is bollocks. There's loads of uptempo doom.[/QUOTE]

I fail to understand how Paradise Lost's Gothic doesn't sound doom at all. Just listen to the riffs. And it's not very slow at all.

And for the record, I'd call that 'doom' before I call any of the trad stuff doom. I've never got how Sabbath-imitating 70's rockers got called "doom metal". It's hardly metal, let alone doom. But that's my view.

[QUOTE]I fail to understand how Paradise Lost's Gothic doesn't sound doom at all. Just listen to the riffs. And it's not very slow at all.[/QUOTE]
Listen to [I]Lost Paradise[/I].

[QUOTE]And for the record, I'd call that 'doom' before I call any of the trad stuff doom. I've never got how Sabbath-imitating 70's rockers got called "doom metal". It's hardly metal, let alone doom. But that's my view.[/QUOTE]
You must be kidding. How the hell is a band like Reverend Bizarre or Candlemass [I]not[/I] metal?

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]

You must be kidding. How the hell is a band like Reverend Bizarre or Candlemass [I]not[/I] metal?[/QUOTE]

Candlemass are an exception, being that instead of a retro rock band imitating Sabbath, they are a classic-ish metal band imitating Sabbath. Reverend Bizarre sound perfectly rock to me.

Seriously...I mean people call Witchcraft doom!

Of course I still call all of these bands Doom (except Witchcraft) out of habit and to save myself from the doom elitists out there.

Reverend Bizarre....rock? wtf?

Hawkwind!

Spacerock at its finest :D

[QUOTE=the2stranger]
Aarni -Bathos
[/QUOTE]

I still don't see what's so interesting about that album, but I never expected to see someone mention it.

Anyone mentioned [B]Wormphlegm[/B] yet?

[QUOTE]Candlemass are an exception, being that instead of a retro rock band imitating Sabbath, they are a classic-ish metal band imitating Sabbath.[/QUOTE]
How are Solitude Aeturnus, Solstice, Trouble, and The Obsessed any different to Candlemass in that respect?

[QUOTE]Reverend Bizarre sound perfectly rock to me.

Seriously...I mean people call Witchcraft doom!

Of course I still call all of these bands Doom (except Witchcraft) out of habit and to save myself from the doom elitists out there.[/QUOTE]
I can understand your point about Witchcraft, but man... Reverend Bizarre... Rock? Please tell me you are joking.

[QUOTE]Anyone mentioned Wormphlegm yet?[/QUOTE]
They're quite good.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]

They're quite good.[/QUOTE]
I can't find any of their stuff, I'm really intressted though. :(

[QUOTE=the2stranger]I can't find any of their stuff, I'm really intressted though. :([/QUOTE]
I can upload [I]Tomb of the Ancient King[/I] if you want :)

NP: Wormphlegm - Epejumalat Monet Tesse Muinen Palveltin Lauran Ja Lesse

Yes, that would be awesome Alex.
The songtitle is weird. :p

Haha.

The upload should be done in about an hour :)

Awesome.
I'm currently uplaoding Mar De Grises - The Tattermedailion Express.
You intressted?

[QUOTE=Jondur]That's just a cop out man.

Call em doom death if you want but try and explain why they should be called that. The fact remains that they have nothing to do with doom. The name doom death just came about to describe Paradise Lost because they were doing really slow death metal and people didn't understand it. they never sounded like doom at all. But people equate slow with doom. Which in itself is bollocks. There's loads of uptempo doom.[/QUOTE]
I can probably tell if a band is Doom or not by listening, but I guess I'm an idiot since I usually go by slowness and that "bluesy" feeling from the music to judge whether or not it's Doom.

[QUOTE=the2stranger]Awesome.
I'm currently uplaoding Mar De Grises - The Tattermedailion Express.
You intressted?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that would be great :D. I only have [I]El Otro...[/I]

sent

Thanks alot man :)

[QUOTE=Txus]In case you didn't read it. :)[/QUOTE]
Mike, Mike,Mike. :p
It's the first track of the Tattermedaiolion Express. :lol:

Alex: anytime!

I know, I feel stupid now :mad:

My ninja edit didn't worked.

<_<

>_>

:lol:

/sent

Do you have my adress?

EDIT:
Damn, I can't rep you back.
Thanks for the album though. :)

[QUOTE=Werny]I fail to understand how Paradise Lost's Gothic doesn't sound doom at all. Just listen to the riffs. And it's not very slow at all.

And for the record, I'd call that 'doom' before I call any of the trad stuff doom. I've never got how Sabbath-imitating 70's rockers got called "doom metal". It's hardly metal, let alone doom. But that's my view.[/QUOTE]

You've lost the plot man. You really have. You can't start redefining music on the basis of how YOU think it should sound. For example, I've decided that [insert generic metalcore band here] are what I'd call thrash. Therefore Razor and Forbidden are no longer thrash. You see how ridiculous that sounds? Well that's exactly what you're doing.

And as for Reverend Bizarre not being metal? Madness

Do any of you guys listen to Acid Bath? Im liking them quite a lot at the moment.

Oh, and can somebody tell me which genre they actually belong to? I've always had trouble placing them.