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Leper Affinity 10-12-2005 05:07 PM

I agree with you. Although WT and TF aren't technically considered "concept albums", I think everything puts out has a some sort of theme or constant message throughout. TDS was the only one with a really specific, defined story though.

repcak 10-12-2005 05:08 PM

yeah, In TDS he at first had a concept in mind and then he started to write the songs. In WT and TF he wrote songs all the time during a special period of time/life and then put it in order

Killtacular 10-12-2005 05:37 PM

The Fragile was a concept album, but it had no storyline.

Leper Affinity 10-12-2005 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]The Fragile was a concept album, but it had no storyline.[/QUOTE]
That's kind of contradictory.

bwnstl 10-12-2005 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=DarkthroneEmperor]That's kind of contradictory.[/QUOTE]

No it's not.

Leper Affinity 10-12-2005 06:53 PM

Yes it is.

woundedmonkey 10-12-2005 06:53 PM

someone told me that nin was one person... is this true?

heavy metal kid 10-12-2005 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=woundedmonkey]someone told me that nin was one person... is this true?[/QUOTE]
Yes(but not live)
Trent Reznor would be that ONE.

Killtacular 10-12-2005 06:58 PM

[QUOTE=DarkthroneEmperor]Yes it is.[/QUOTE]

No it's not.

Leper Affinity 10-12-2005 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]No it's not.[/QUOTE]
A concept album is an album with a storyline. I don't see how it could be considered a concept album if it has no storyline.

heavy metal kid 10-12-2005 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]No it's not.[/QUOTE]

To be a concept album, it must have a storyline or at least a main theme on all songs.

The order isn't necesary.

Killtacular 10-12-2005 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]To be a concept album, it must have an storyline or [b]at least a main theme on all songs.[/b]

The order isn't necesary.[/QUOTE]

This is why the Fragile is a concept album, not because it has a storyline. Just like Dark Side of the Moon and Ride the Lightning.

Leper Affinity 10-12-2005 07:03 PM

What theme does The Fragile have?

Killtacular 10-12-2005 07:05 PM

[QUOTE=DarkthroneEmperor]What theme does The Fragile have?[/QUOTE]
[quote=Trent Reznor, in a 1999 interview]There's a general theme to the album of systems failing and things sort of falling apart.[/quote]

[url=argawerf] [/url]

Leper Affinity 10-12-2005 07:07 PM

Fair enough. :) I always thought every song had some kind of emotional consistency, but it never had anything specific enough to be considered a concept album.

Killtacular 10-12-2005 07:31 PM

Wikipedia is a wonderful website. I could get lost for hours.

bwnstl 10-12-2005 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=DarkthroneEmperor]Fair enough. :) I always thought every song had some kind of emotional consistency, but it never had anything specific enough to be considered a concept album.[/QUOTE]

A concept album that tells a story is a rock opera, I believe.

And yes, Wikipedia is "teh ****."

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-12-2005 10:05 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl]No it's not.[/QUOTE]

A concept album that has no storyline is an oxymoron. A concept album is an album that tells a story. :confused:

So who thinks a NIN/Porcupine Tree tour would be worth losing your virginity to a 35 year old biker named Chuck just to see the concert? :-D I would.

BlindWriting 10-12-2005 10:39 PM

While The Fragile is not a concept album in the more convential storyline approach, like TDS, it does have some linking themes. Musically, there are some repeated sounds, such as the music in The Frail being repeated a couple times throughout. There are other, much more subtle examples of this. Also, lyrically, there are some definite themes.

With Teeth DID start out as a concept album (Bleedthrough), and there are some repeated lyrical themes (lines blurring, one being right where he belongs), but otherwise, it does not hold much of an actual concept.

Killtacular 10-12-2005 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]A concept album that has no storyline is an oxymoron. A concept album is an album that tells a story. :confused:[/QUOTE]

No it's not!!!

A concept album [i]can[/i] tell a story, but it doesn't have to. It can just have a general theme that all the songs adhere to. For example: Ride the Lightning is a concept album, because all songs are ways of dying, which is the theme.

dUSK 10-13-2005 09:04 AM

I just found Halo's 1-17 on my college network. I have a lot of listening to do. :cool:

tenorbass 10-13-2005 10:17 AM

hey guys i got the 2 halos i was missing. But i am missing that track hurt from ....And all that could of been. aim me on AngryYoungMan621 today PLEASE!!!

dUSK 10-13-2005 10:21 AM

Apparently you're busy doing your homework...

tenorbass 10-13-2005 11:15 AM

hehe sorry about that man. Thanks for the track!! :thumb:

repcak 10-13-2005 11:33 AM

G_Mac07 can you make me a favor and delete your avater? replace it... please. its horrible. is so gay

Killtacular 10-13-2005 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]G_Mac07 can you make me a favor and delete your avater? replace it... please. its horrible. is so gay[/QUOTE]

Are you not comfortable enough with your sexuality that a little of David Hasslehoff's manly chest bothers you that much?

Tibbs 10-13-2005 12:41 PM

Nofx Rule
 
NOFX :lol: RULE HAHA

Killtacular 10-13-2005 12:44 PM

Umm... okay?

Reywas 10-13-2005 12:45 PM

David Hasslehoff > most of you in terms of awesomness

Leper Affinity 10-13-2005 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]So who thinks a NIN/Porcupine Tree tour would be worth losing your virginity to a 35 year old biker named Chuck just to see the concert? :-D I would.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard any Procupined Tree, so I couldn't tell you.

Dried Muffin Remnants 10-13-2005 02:28 PM

Porcupine Tree is one of those bands that I want to get into (because they're obviously talented musically) but cannot because they have that little cheesiness factor that I cannot stand.

Tryxx 10-13-2005 03:01 PM

Not sure if this has ever been posted, but an in depth article and analysis of The Downward Spiral.

[url]http://www.sickamongthepure.com/files/2002/02/TDS/TDS.html[/url]

Leper Affinity 10-13-2005 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=Dried Muffin Remnants]Porcupine Tree is one of those bands that I want to get into (because they're obviously talented musically) but cannot because they have that little cheesiness factor that I cannot stand.[/QUOTE]
The band name is an instant turnoff for me.

Mild Child 10-13-2005 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Tibbs]NOFX :lol: RULE HAHA[/QUOTE]
you're an idiot

dUSK 10-13-2005 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Jake.]So who thinks a NIN/Porcupine Tree tour would be worth losing your virginity to a 35 year old biker named Chuck just to see the concert? :-D I would.[/QUOTE]

I'd do it. :amaze:

[QUOTE=repcak]G_Mac07 can you make me a favor and delete your avater? replace it... please. its horrible. is so gay[/QUOTE]

It's totally gay, which is why it cracks me up. It'll stay for a week or so.

repcak 10-13-2005 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]It's totally gay, which is why it cracks me up. It'll stay for a week or so.[/QUOTE]
ok, then i won't be on MX anymore... for ... one week?! :wave:
bye, bye... till next week.

Thor'sHammer 10-13-2005 06:35 PM

eh,im not excited about a new NIN album,theyr good but i lost interest in them before with teeth came out

Killtacular 10-13-2005 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=Thor'sHammer]eh,im not excited about a new NIN album,[b]he's[/b] good but i lost interest in [b]him[/b] before with teeth came out[/QUOTE]

Fix'd.

dUSK 10-13-2005 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]ok, then i won't be on MX anymore... for ... one week?! :wave:
bye, bye... till next week.[/QUOTE]

oh noes! :(

Killtacular 10-13-2005 09:01 PM

Gwah!! Why'd you change it for him? You're supposed to stick it to the man!!

I'm very, very disappointed in you.


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