Yeah, I think Painkiller is a little overrated too. But don't get me wrong, it's a good album, but it get far too much attention over (what I see as) better albums, like for example Stained Class.

Painkiller isn't overrated; the older Priest albums are underrated.

Exactly. People need to pay more attention to the late '70s, early '80s.

Exactly, Riva. [b]All[/b] the albums from Rocka Rolla to Hell bent for Leather hold a very good quality level, and are probably quite overlooked (specially the two or three first). I wont say that British Steel and Point of Entry has the same quality that those albums have. Maybe Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith can be compared...

Anyway, the best thing about Priest, is that it's so varied from album to album. Each album has something special, a new sound, tempo, etc. If you look at other bands like for example Maiden or AC/DC, it's very often the same over and over again from album to album. If you're in a sad mood, Priest has a song for that. If you're happy, a song from Turbo will do (not kidding).

I agree, although at the same time I like how some bands don't change their style.

It's a double edged sword, really.

[QUOTE=Jaffe]Exactly, Riva. [b]All[/b] the albums from Rocka Rolla to Hell bent for Leather hold a very good quality level, and are probably quite overlooked (specially the two or three first). I wont say that British Steel and Point of Entry has the same quality that those albums have. Maybe Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith can be compared...

Anyway, the best thing about Priest, is that it's so varied from album to album. Each album has something special, a new sound, tempo, etc. If you look at other bands like for example [b]Maiden[/b] or AC/DC, it's very often the same over and over again from album to album. If you're in a sad mood, Priest has a song for that. If you're happy, a song from Turbo will do (not kidding).[/QUOTE]

Hardly, go listen to the album 'killers' then the album 'somewhere in time' :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=-The Frank]Hardly, go listen to the album 'killers' then the album 'somewhere in time' :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Well, by that I meant songs from Maiden with Bruce, sorry. Their two first albums are quite different. But listen to something from the other albums [b]with Bruce[/b].

Allthough, I kinda expected that answer from you, since you are a fanboy...

[QUOTE=Jaffe]If you're happy, a song from Turbo will do (not kidding).[/QUOTE]

Haha. If I'm happy I don't want to be depressed by [I]Turbo[/I]. :p

[QUOTE=Jaffe]Well, by that I meant songs from Maiden with Bruce, sorry. Their two first albums are quite different. But listen to something from the other albums [b]with Bruce[/b].

Allthough, I kinda expected that answer from you, since you are a fanboy...[/QUOTE]

I have been trying to stop talking about maiden in a priest thread but seriously you have no idea what your talking about when you're saying maiden havent changes their sound over the years.
Do you really need another example?
Listen to 'Seventh son of a seventh son' then try listening to any song off of 'no prayer for the dying' or 'fear of the dark'.

That being said i'll try to keep my maiden posts in here to a minimum.

[QUOTE=-The Frank]I have been trying to stop talking about maiden in a priest thread but seriously you have no idea what your talking about when you're saying maiden havent changes their sound over the years.
Do you really need another example?
Listen to 'Seventh son of a seventh son' then try listening to any song off of 'no prayer for the dying' or 'fear of the dark'.

That being said i'll try to keep my maiden posts in here to a minimum.[/QUOTE]

If you like Maiden that much, post in the Maiden thread! I just used Maiden as a example, because I KNOW that many people agree that they sound very much the same.

By the way: I listened to tracks from Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, and from Fear of the Dark. Apart from the synth on Seventh Son, I didn't hear any big difference in the style or sound...

^^^
you obviously are deaf then.

Anyway, all today i had the intro to 'the rage' in my head so i just had to go and learn it to get it out of my system.

[QUOTE=Jaffe]If you like Maiden that much, post in the Maiden thread! I just used Maiden as a example, because I KNOW that many people agree that they sound very much the same.

By the way: I listened to tracks from Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, and from Fear of the Dark. Apart from the synth on Seventh Son, I didn't hear any big difference in the style or sound...[/QUOTE]



Then why would some people say that they prefer the "Old Maiden" to the "New Maiden"?

I'm not trying to argue,admittedly there isn't the kind of variation between albums that Priest have done but you could've probably used a much better example than Maiden.

quit biching about Maiden plz

or some heads are gonna roll :mad:

so did anyone get to see them on that VH1 Rock Honours thing? And if so, did they play anything cool or was it just breaking the law or you've got another thing comin' or something like that?

Yeah, it was Breaking the Law and You Got Another Thing Comin' :(.

Plus, Godsmack sucked at their covers because Sulley can't sing like Rob and they have one guitarist.

[QUOTE=Rrrrrrr]quit biching about Maiden plz

or some heads are gonna roll :mad:

so did anyone get to see them on that VH1 Rock Honours thing? And if so, did they play anything cool or was it just breaking the law or you've got another thing comin' or something like that?[/QUOTE]
Theres videos of priest's performence on youtube.

I've been listening to Priest for about 2 hours now. Good times.

NP: Dreamer Deceiver

[QUOTE=Rrrrrrr]quit biching about Maiden plz

[B]or some heads are gonna roll [/B]:mad:

so did anyone get to see them on that VH1 Rock Honours thing? And if so, did they play anything cool or was it just breaking the law or you've got another thing comin' or something like that?[/QUOTE]



You take my life but I'll take yours too, you fire your musket but I'll run you through. :thumb:







I'm not bitching Maiden. :)

Wearing my British Steel tee right now, life is good :cool:

You know what would make my day better right now? Rapid Fire.

/puts on Rapid Fire

[QUOTE=Saxon Priest]You take my life but I'll take yours too, you fire your musket but I'll run you through. :thumb:

I'm not bitching Maiden. :)[/QUOTE]
you're never safe from my heart of a lion

[QUOTE=Saxon Priest]You take my life but I'll take yours too, you fire your musket but I'll run you through. :thumb:
[/QUOTE]

Muskets or cybernetic snipers? I know what I'd prefer. :)

So im thinking of getting 'rocka rolla' as my next priest album only becasue the title track is so god dam catchy! Any objections or any albums i should get before that? I only have painkiller and british steel.

Big objection here. I haven't heard it yet, but I have heard it's a bad representation of Judas Priest. They were still finding their sound then and it's not even really metal. If I may make a suggestion, go with Unleashed in the East.

^^ I downloaded the one you uploaded for the DU. Just forgot to mention it.
Im always a sucker for live albums though.

Well, in that case I would say Stained Class (which I uploaded yesterday), Screaming for Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith or Sad Wings of Destiny.

I think Rocka Rolla is a great album. Sure, it isn't Priest's best, but it's still a good buy/download.

I think i might go sad wings of destiny then. Or maybe both :)

Take Sad Wings instead of Rocka Rolla, if you have to choose... Rocka Rolla can hardly be called metal, but it's still a good album. Just don't expect any metal on it.

But a lot of their early albums were focussed on hard rock. It wasn't until the late '60s/early '70s that the metal side began to emerge.

[QUOTE=Riva]But a lot of their early albums were focussed on hard rock. It wasn't until the late '60s/early '70s that the metal side began to emerge.[/QUOTE]

Please listen to 'Tyrant' and say that again? :p

Tyrant \m/

Or The Ripper for that matter.

Sad Wings came out in '76 though, so he's right.

Haha. I win again!

Did you mean the late '60s and early '70s, or late '70s and early '80s? They didn't give out any albums in the late '60s, so that doesn't make any sense to say. Priest [b]started[/b] in the late '60s, and played Metal tracks in the early '70s, like for example The Ripper and Victim of Changes. And in the late '70s and early '80s, they definately played Metal.

So, I "win".

Hehe, I lost because of typos.

[QUOTE=Riva]But a lot of their early albums were focussed on hard rock. It wasn't until the late '60s/early '70s that the metal side began to emerge.[/QUOTE]



Essentially Hard Rock is Heavy Metal, if you look all the way back to when it started it was Rock music played with heavy distortion, so in essence it could be seen as the same thing. By the NWOBHM that's when things began to change into a different style, it was faster and louder (mainly due to advances in technology). :thumb:



I sound like a music boffin and that has prompted me to shut up for the time being.

[QUOTE=Saxon Priest]Essentially Hard Rock is Heavy Metal, if you look all the way back to when it started it was Rock music played with heavy distortion, so in essence it could be seen as the same thing. By the NWOBHM that's when things began to change into a different style, it was faster and louder (mainly due to advances in technology). :thumb:



I sound like a music boffin and that has prompted me to shut up for the time being.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know. :)

So chaps.

Anybody got the live Halford album? the tracklisting looks pretty interesting, but I'm wondering how the other band members would handle the Tipton/KK guitar work... especially on Beyond The Realms of Death.

On another note, the song Resurrection canes. Halford goes all out falsetto on the whole thing.

NP: Judas Priest - Island of Domination

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]So chaps.

Anybody got the live Halford album? the tracklisting looks pretty interesting, but I'm wondering how the other band members would handle the Tipton/KK guitar work... especially on Beyond The Realms of Death.

On another note, the song Resurrection canes. Halford goes all out falsetto on the whole thing.

NP: Judas Priest - Island of Domination[/QUOTE]

I have it and the Priest songs that they play are all ace, you know Halford wouldn't settle for a lineup that couldn't meet the challenge...

NP Halford - Stained Class

[QUOTE=metaloz]I have it and the Priest songs that they play are all ace, you know Halford wouldn't settle for a lineup that couldn't meet the challenge...

NP Halford - Stained Class[/QUOTE]

Badass. I'll be picking that up next time I'm down buying CD's.

Funny to think that Patrick Lachman was in Damageplan as a singer... I'm sure he would have been better as a rhythm/lead guitarist.

I still need to check out Halford's solo stuff.