[QUOTE=noreason88]I really think he does know theory, but if both of us cared enough we could look into it more, but we can just leave it.[/QUOTE]

In Total Guitar the band admitted to not know any theory. For example they could not identify a pentatonic scale or notes on the fretboard.

They play by ear and by experience of working out how to get a good sound mainly.

[QUOTE=deathscreamingsheep]In Total Guitar the band admitted to not know any theory. For example they could not identify a pentatonic scale or notes on the fretboard.

They play by ear and by experience of working out how to get a good sound mainly.[/QUOTE]

thank you for that information, it is most appreciated :D

dave knows his theory. i know that much. i doubt cone knows much more than basic scales though. most of what he plays is root notes.

is bass not all root notes? as in on guitar youre using two fingers but the root note is the one played on the lowest of the strings played and commonly played with the index finger


edit- this is bassist for a band, im on my friend's PC and hes signed on

if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.[/QUOTE]
It is nowhere near pointless.
It makes the sound a lot more "full", and helps to keep rythm when the guitarist does anything different.

Guitar sounds so hollow without the bass backing it up.

bass isn't all root notes, it can be very different, it can do chords and power chords and all of that crap and it can also be the lead if your good, but it's not pointless to ANY extent

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.[/QUOTE]
yea thats what i meant, the root of the guitar music

but its not pointless at all

The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.

this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.[/QUOTE]


it's called pop punk lol dont expect much from the bassist.

[QUOTE=Original Gangsta!]this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses[/QUOTE]

Oic.

you're all misunderstanding what i'm saying. i didn't say bass is all root notes, and i didn't say bass is pointless. i said bass is pointless if the bassist is only playing root notes. basically, i'm saying playing nothing but root notes is pointless.

if so then why did they ever invent a bass or play what they play??

its just like the bass part of what the guitars playing but with some differences

im tired of you guys sayin all this **** about bass being sucky or something without even backing it up

seriously, if root note bass is so pointless, why do they even have it in the song?

[QUOTE=Original Gangsta!]this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses[/QUOTE]
shutup n00b


these guys are ****in awesome


and obviously youre not a hardass.... sounds like youre tryin to be one though

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.[/QUOTE]

you should listen just a little bit closer to songs like Welcome to Hell, Mr. Amsterdam, Pieces and other good stuff

[QUOTE=Original Gangsta!]this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses[/QUOTE]

okay, and would you consider yourself to be a harda[size=2]ss[/size], because your a pretty stubborn little b[size=2]itch[/size]

how can you say the bass is pointless. it makes the whole song sound more full.

Yes I believe Welcome To Hell had quite a nice bass solo

I also noticed some nice bass in the songs on HHOP....

Cone's solo kinda sounds like Matt Freeman's solo on Maxwell Murder IMO.

the bass of cone is in some songs very catchy, like in hhop and also aknf
wth solo,and whole song is good

[QUOTE=chops]how can you say the bass is pointless. it makes the whole song sound more full.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

The bass is the backbone to any band or song. It makes it feel more than background music, it gives it a feeling that neither guitar or drums give.

Does anyone else have the Killer Queen album yet? Sum 41's song is good, so is Constantine M's and Shinedowns, alot of the songs are crap, but I got it anyways

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]you're all misunderstanding what i'm saying. i didn't say bass is all root notes, and i didn't say bass is pointless. i said bass is pointless if the bassist is only playing root notes. basically, i'm saying playing nothing but root notes is pointless.[/QUOTE]

it's not pointless, it's stupid I'll give you that, but it's hardly pointless, sorry if we made you mad :D

I've been downloading countless Sum 41 Live performance videos onto my comp and it's amazing did you guys know they did Walk This Way (Aerosmith cover) with Ja Rule, Nelly, and DJ Clue? I thought it was pretty cool, cause for once the rappers were on beat because they didn't write the song

also I listened to Chuck again today and I heard things in it that I've never heard before, I realized how much better these guys were at writing songs then I ever thought they were (even though I've thought they were amazing for a long time now)

uuuuuuuggggggghhhhh
people
READ THE ****ING POST
i did not say bass is pointless! i am a bassist! read this- BASS IS NOT POINTLESS! jesus christ, it's not that complicated.
what is pointless is when a bassist only plays the roots of what the guitar is playing. the same effect can be achieved by turning up the "bass" knob on the rhythm guitarist's amp. bass should venture out from what the guitarist is playing, or it adds nothing but a little extra low end.
this is coming FROM A BASSIST.

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]uuuuuuuggggggghhhhh
people
READ THE ****ING POST
i did not say bass is pointless! i am a bassist! read this- BASS IS NOT POINTLESS! jesus christ, it's not that complicated.
what is pointless is when a bassist only plays the roots of what the guitar is playing. the same effect can be achieved by turning up the "bass" knob on the rhythm guitarist's amp. bass should venture out from what the guitarist is playing, or it adds nothing but a little extra low end.
this is coming FROM A BASSIST.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBassicBassist]it's not pointless, it's stupid I'll give you that, but it's hardly pointless, sorry if we made you mad :D[/QUOTE]

yeah, cleared that up already dude, now let's get back to Sum 41 here people

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]uuuuuuuggggggghhhhh
people
READ THE ****ING POST
i did not say bass is pointless! i am a bassist! read this- BASS IS NOT POINTLESS! jesus christ, it's not that complicated.
what is pointless is when a bassist only plays the roots of what the guitar is playing. the same effect can be achieved by turning up the "bass" knob on the rhythm guitarist's amp. bass should venture out from what the guitarist is playing, or it adds nothing but a little extra low end.
this is coming FROM A BASSIST.[/QUOTE]
Why did you say bass is pointless?

[QUOTE=Tjebby]Why did you say bass is pointless?[/QUOTE]

are you trying to cause problems? just go back a page and read it da[size=2]mmit[/size]

Bass is not pointless. He should not get away with saying bass is pointless. Stop being on his side. Your user name even says your a bassist.

[QUOTE=TheBassicBassist]I've been downloading countless Sum 41 Live performance videos onto my comp and it's amazing did you guys know they did Walk This Way (Aerosmith cover) with Ja Rule, Nelly, and DJ Clue? I thought it was pretty cool, cause for once the rappers were on beat because they didn't write the song[/QUOTE] Yeah, I had that song ages ago. It's pretty neat. I think it was a tribute to Run DMC or something.

Only bassists..ha

Anyways, I'm a drummer, but the bass in Over My Head is kinda cool to me...I don't know, I'm not a bassist, so I don't know what's cool and all, but yeah, that's just what I think.

Anyone know where I can get World War Seven? Great song...

i dont think turning up the bass on the rythym guitar would make the song more whole. if that was the case then there would be alot of bands without a bassist.

[QUOTE=Tjebby]Bass is not pointless. He should not get away with saying bass is pointless. Stop being on his side. Your user name even says your a bassist.[/QUOTE]

you're really observant, congratulations, and in case you didn't know, I'm a peace keeper, I try and make everyone happy, someone says something incorrect, I correct them and move on, it keeps people from being mad all the time, he never said bass is pointless, just certain things bass does he doesn't think is cool

[QUOTE=Deranged_Drummer15]Only bassists..ha

Anyways, I'm a drummer, but the bass in Over My Head is kinda cool to me...I don't know, I'm not a bassist, so I don't know what's cool and all, but yeah, that's just what I think.

Anyone know where I can get World War Seven? Great song...[/QUOTE]

yeah, Limewire, or the UK version of DTLI or anything like WinMX or juse, basically anywhere you look, you'll get it

they suck live...

I have their album "All Killer No Filler" it's alright...my favorite song would have to be were all to blam from "chuck" though.

[QUOTE=RockThe40oz!]they suck live...[/QUOTE]
Oh, man, they were killer live here.

[QUOTE=RockThe40oz!]they suck live...[/QUOTE]

apparently you haven't seen them live in the past....since Chuck came out, so 10 months, I'll admit, that on the live in astoria dvd they did pretty bad, but live in tokyo dvd was awesome, so check it out