[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Isn't the wall partly about Syd aswell[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's like 70% Rodger and 30% syd or something.

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Nah I doubt it, some songs might have been inspired by him, but The Wall is a concept album about a kid/man named Pink.[/QUOTE]

Syd is the original pink.

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Nah I doubt it, some songs might have been inspired by him, but The Wall is a concept album about a kid/man named Pink.[/QUOTE]

Pink is made up of part Rodger and Part Syd.

Two things

1. Is Syd's solo stuff allowed in this thread

2. I have got Floyd and Zep singing stairway together, weird

Syd as well? I didn't know about that... where have you heard that? Cause I know Pink's father died in a war, and in reality, that was what happened to Rodger, so i can see a relation there, maybe the insanity side of Pink was a relation to Syd I'm guessing...

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Syd as well? I didn't know about that... where have you heard that? Cause I know Pink's father died in a war, and in reality, that was what happened to Rodger, so i can see a relation there, maybe the insanity side of Pink was a relation to Syd I'm guessing...[/QUOTE]

Rogers dad died in WWII tiger broke free ring any bells

[url]www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes[/url]

click on comfortably numb and then video. :D

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Rogers dad died in WWII tiger broke free ring any bells

[url]www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes[/url]

click on comfortably numb and then video. :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I knew When The Tigers Broke Free was about Rodger's father... good song... very atmospheric.

The Wall is pretty much 100% about Roger, that is the way he liked it.

No. The character "Pink" is a fusion of Syd and Roger. Also, the song WYWH isn't about Syd. It applies to him, sure, but its not actually about him. I'm in a rush, but I'll clarify later.

Pink is almost all Roger, and Roger's interpretation of Syd's mindscape. Hence, Roger can be considered the main character "Pink" seeing as although it is somewhat based on Syd, it is based on Roger's egocentric view of Syd.

HeavyRiva, thanks for putting it in much clearer (and nicer) words than me. Sorry everyone, didn't mean to be an *** about it, I was just kind of rushed.

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Yeah, I knew When The Tigers Broke Free was about Rodger's father... good song... very atmospheric.[/QUOTE]
I don't really like "When the tigers broke free"
It doesn't stand up to their better work very well.

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]I don't really like "When the tigers broke free"
It doesn't stand up to their better work very well.[/QUOTE]

Well I don't think it was intended to be a "Floyd Masterpeice", just a song with Roger expressing his memories of his father, more of a personal thing, but thats why I find it so good.

what are your thoughts about "the final cut"

I used to hate it, but i listened to it thoroughly and now im beggining to like it a lot more now.

[QUOTE=funk_rock_jazz_drummer]what are your thoughts about "the final cut"

I used to hate it, but i listened to it thoroughly and now im beggining to like it a lot more now.[/QUOTE]

You can easily notice the big difference with the absence of Roger's songwriting on that album, but it has some good points.. Fletcher Memorial Home is a good song.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: The Final Cut is teh lose.

It's a good album if you throw it in the general pool of albums, but... All other Pink Floyd Albums > The Final Cut.

[QUOTE=Lateralias]You can easily notice the big difference with the absence of Roger's songwriting on that album, but it has some good points.. Fletcher Memorial Home is a good song.[/QUOTE]


yeah, its definatly more of a instrumental album then a lyric album.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I've said it before, I'll say it again: The Final Cut is teh lose.

It's a good album if you throw it in the general pool of albums, but... All other Pink Floyd Albums > The Final Cut.[/QUOTE]


well yeah. no ones gonna say that final cut is better then DSOTM or The Wall


/edit: 300th post! haha 700 more to go

Oh shoot, made an error.... I was thinking of Momentary Lapse of Reason... Final Cut is the last PF album with Roger in it... wait, is that the one with Fletcher Memorial Home on it? If so, then I didn't care for that album much, just the song I just mentioned.

I really think The Final Cut is a lyrical album, not a musical album. Lyrically, it's arguably the most mature thing to date by Waters. However, musically, it's very subpar.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I really think The Final Cut is a lyrical album, not a musical album. Lyrically, it's arguably the most mature thing to date by Waters. However, musically, it's very subpar.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree,
T'is very personal.

Personnaly, i think that The final cut is one of the best pink floyd album ever with the wall and WYWH.

Well, its a very divisive album. Some fans say its the best, some say its the worst.

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Oh shoot, made an error.... I was thinking of Momentary Lapse of Reason... Final Cut is the last PF album with Roger in it... wait, is that the one with Fletcher Memorial Home on it? If so, then I didn't care for that album much, just the song I just mentioned.[/QUOTE]

How many albums didn't have Roger on them? I know MLoR didn't, but are there any others?

Waters wasn't on The Division Bell. Also, if you're including live stuff, he wasn't on PULSE either.

Is the Division Bell worth while?

Yes. Yes. And YES! Even Roger Waters, the egomaniac who refused to sign a copy of The Wall for a fan because if had signatures from the other members, said it was good. It's great. It goes back more to their roots.

Im thinking of redoing the review for "The Wall" in the CD reviews section. I dont know how good it would be though :/

He acclaimed it and he wasn't even on it!?! Wow, that's pretty impressive. You'd think he would be bitter about it. I have Momentary Lapse of Reason and I'm really not that impressed with it. It's still better than most of the stuff out there, but not great like Floyd's other stuff.

So then is The Division Bell more proggy and less poppish than MLoR? Another question, is the album cover of The Division Bell those two Aztek looking statues facing each other?

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]
Another question, is the album cover of The Division Bell those two Aztek looking statues facing each other?[/QUOTE]

Yes

Division Bell is great. Its got two instrumental tracks, and its really creative. I wouldn't say its super progressive, because the Pink Floyd sound had been done for 20+ years by then, so its hard for it to be "progressive." However, it definitely doesn't have that 80's pop feel of AMLOR. I highly recommend it.

Allright, it shall be my next Floyd purchase after the Wall DVD. :thumb:

Excellent. The Wall DVD is also awesome.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Also, the song WYWH isn't about Syd. It applies to him, sure, but its not actually about him. I'm in a rush, but I'll clarify later.[/QUOTE]

Finally. I agree with you on this one.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Yes. Yes. And YES! Even Roger Waters, the egomaniac who refused to sign a copy of The Wall for a fan because if had signatures from the other members, said it was good. It's great. It goes back more to their roots.[/QUOTE]
Thats is quite surprising.

Isn't it?

And Magicbus, glad to see you agree with me!

Everybody's been saying that WYWH is about Syd, but only SOYCD was written about him. I've never really had time to explain this though. I'm glad you brought it up.


Oh, and I have those DT covers. AIM=rockshowguy56

I'm so IMing you right now to get them.

Are they the ones off of "A Change in Seasons"?

Couldn't tell ya. Not into DT, just love these songs. Sounds just like Gilmour's solo.