I'm an Aussie too!! Good to see some Australian Opeth fans :thumb:

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]well played *applauds*

yet i am afraid Sweden is the ultimate country, they prodouced Opeth.

but yes, America is 2nd:( but don't worry, new zealand will catch up :)[/QUOTE]

Not just Opeth, Amon Amarth, Dark Tranquility, Arch Enemy, In Flames, and of coarse the ultimate Ace of Base. :lol:

You forgot ABBA.

There seems to be a lot of Aussie's in this thread... Hopefully it will be an indication of the number of people at Opeth shows next time they tour here.

Anyway, can someone link me to a site that give a pretty good biography/history of Opeth, I think I'll do a bit of reading. Thanks in advance :)

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Cardboard Headgear[/B]
You forgot ABBA.[/QUOTE]

who could forget ABBA

I'm new to this forum. Does anyone know what The Leper Affinity is about? It seesm to me that Mikael is using leprosy as a metaphor for the fallen human condition. Sin as a disease. And the song is written from the perspective of the disease. Does that make any sense? peace, Chris

[QUOTE]There seems to be a lot of Aussie's in this thread... Hopefully it will be an indication of the number of people at Opeth shows next time they tour here.

Anyway, can someone link me to a site that give a pretty good biography/history of Opeth, I think I'll do a bit of reading. Thanks in advance [/QUOTE]


[url]www.opeth.com[/url]

it has a great bio written by Mikeal Akerfeldt himself


[QUOTE]I'm new to this forum. Does anyone know what The Leper Affinity is about? It seesm to me that Mikael is using leprosy as a metaphor for the fallen human condition. Sin as a disease. And the song is written from the perspective of the disease. Does that make any sense? peace, Chris[/QUOTE]


welcome

I like your thoughts, I think you're quite accurate
:thumb:

the2stranger-
Thanks. Some people think its about rape and murder...but I think that's too morbid. So I hope its not about that.... The whole sin/leprosy idea makes sense to me. I understand that Mikael wrote this because he was having thoughts about the evils of humanity. And maybe he's saying that the evils of humanity are like a disease. peace, Chris





welcome

I like your thoughts, I think you're quite accurate
:thumb:[/QUOTE]

I like your interpretation better than my own.
*yoink*

ooh, and if you like lyrics on the evil of humanity check the lyrics of meshuggah.


especialy on the 'contradictions collapse' and the 'chaosphere 'album

Carboard Headgear...what's your interpretation? I'm interested to know. Do you have any thoughts on the songs from Blackwater Park or Deliverance? peace, Chris

[QUOTE=the2stranger]ooh, and if you like lyrics on the evil of humanity check the lyrics of meshuggah.


especialy on the 'contradictions collapse' and the 'chaosphere 'album[/QUOTE]

Their lyrics aren't so much about the "evil" of humanity as much as the inhumanity of humanity, if that makes any sense. Machines are not by nature evil; they're amoral. Meshuggah seems to be reacting against the dehumanization of humanity resulting from the state of modern society.

*puts on "Destroy Erase Improve* :cool:

Speaking of evil...would anyone on this board characterize Opeth's lyrics as evil? As far as I can tell...they're a lot like poetry. Not to be taken literally, there's always a deeper meaning and sympolism under the surface...am I just stating the obvious? peace, Chris

If by "evil," you mean encouraging bad acts, then no.

[QUOTE=musicnerd]Speaking of evil...would anyone on this board characterize Opeth's lyrics as evil? As far as I can tell...they're a lot like poetry. Not to be taken literally, there's always a deeper meaning and sympolism under the surface...am I just stating the obvious? peace, Chris[/QUOTE]

Evil? I wouldn't say so. They do tend to get quite deep, and quite morbid at times however. I love them, personally.

I would say Opeth's lyrics are quite poetic as you said, you just have to listen to black rose immortal to figure that out. After reading the full bio at [url]www.opeth.com[/url] last night, it seems mikael doesn't look to make evil lyrics/music, but he did state that he prefers dark sounding music. (which isn't evil, just dark)

btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]I would say Opeth's lyrics are quite poetic as you said, you just have to listen to black rose immortal to figure that out. After reading the full bio at [url]www.opeth.com[/url] last night, it seems mikael doesn't look to make evil lyrics/music, but he did state that he prefers dark sounding music. (which isn't evil, just dark)

btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?[/QUOTE]

That's good to know. I try to steer clear of evil lyrics/music. It's no question that Mikael's lyrics are dark. It seems that he leaves them open to interpretation, but at the same time...I'm sure he knows what they're about since he wrote them. I enjoy these discussions. peace, Chris

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?[/QUOTE]
No, it's neither of the three female singers on that album. Seeing as how it's Det, I'm going to make the WWWWIIIIIILLLLDDDD assumption that it's Anneke Van Giersbergen from The Gathering.

Also, YAY, real conversation in this thread again.

Grey Incision--is there a new bio on Opeth.net. I haven't been to that site in a couple months, and I can't access it from work. Do you have thoughts about what The Leper Affinity is about? Some folks seem to think its about rape and murder..and to me, that's pretty evil. I hope my interpretation is accurate. peace, Chris

Go vote for Blackwater Park!

*rabble rabble*

[QUOTE=musicnerd]Grey Incision--is there a new bio on Opeth.net. I haven't been to that site in a couple months, and I can't access it from work. Do you have thoughts about what The Leper Affinity is about? Some folks seem to think its about rape and murder..and to me, that's pretty evil. I hope my interpretation is accurate. peace, Chris[/QUOTE]

haven't been to Opeth.net but the bio on Opeth.com is awesome (dunno if they are the same thing or not) With Leper affinity, i have the same sort of interpretation as you, as Mikael did express his feelings about the album were his disdain for humanity. Opeth oasis brought up a valid point earlier in the thread. BWP can be considered as a concept album, although Mikael didn't intend it to be.

Leper affinity-The town of Blackwater park is plagued by a disease(Leprosy) and the character is not affected "i am beyond death"

Bleak-The character works to find a cure "heart still beating for the cause"

Harvest-The townspeople are dying but the character ist still working for a cure "halo of death, all i see is departure, mourners lament, but it's me who's the martyr"

The drapery falls-A lover, or somebody dear to the character dies "you turn your back and you walk away"

Dirge for november-The character is contemplating suicide, throwing it all in as a result of the death of somebody dear to him. "Preparations are done,this can't last The mere refletion brought disgust No ordeal to conquer, this firm slit"

The funeral portrait-He has given up, finally commited suicide, and left the town to it's own. "I'm greeting my downward fall, leaving the throes to others."

Patterns in the ivy-instrumental

Blackwater park-The town is left with the last of the townspeople dying off.
"Lepers coiled neath the trees Dying men in bewildered soliloquys Perversions bloom round the bend Seekers, lost in their quest Ghosts of friends frolic under the waning moon

It is the year of death Wielding his instruments Stealth sovereign reaper Touching us with ease."


This is just 1 interpretation of The leper affinity and the BWP album as a whole. Personally, i prefer the conclusion you have come to, it is more logical, considering that Mikael did not mean BWP to be a concept album

It's not a concept album with a storyline!!!! LAKJSDSOAIDH8023ghroawuef

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]It's not a concept album with a storyline!!!! LAKJSDSOAIDH8023ghroawuef[/QUOTE]

i know card, don't worry :) i was saying, opeth_oasis said it earlier, and it is an interpretation

Lol ok, I thought that everyone kept ignoring me the million times I said it. "No worries."

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]No, it's neither of the three female singers on that album. Seeing as how it's Det, I'm going to make the WWWWIIIIIILLLLDDDD assumption that it's Anneke Van Giersbergen from The Gathering.

Also, YAY, real conversation in this thread again.[/QUOTE]

;) The very same.

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]
btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?[/QUOTE]

No, but she HAS performed with Arjen Lucassen before, on an earlier Ayreon album (into the Electric Castle).

[/obsessed]

Do all opeth songs have a lot of screaming in them? jw because i downloaded one of them (it was something about a park im not quite sure though) and i didnt like it because of all the screaming (i am not a big fan of metal). so are they all like that?

[QUOTE=GnRguitarist]Do all opeth songs have a lot of screaming in them? jw because i downloaded one of them (it was something about a park im not quite sure though) and i didnt like it because of all the screaming (i am not a big fan of metal). so are they all like that?[/QUOTE]

Mikael does growl in the majoriry of Opeth songs, yes. Either you learn to enjoy it, or there's not that much Opeth material open for you...although they did produce an all soft album.

[QUOTE=Iron Man]Mikael does growl in the majoriry of Opeth songs, yes. Either you learn to enjoy it, or there's not that much Opeth material open for you...although they did produce an all soft album.[/QUOTE]
i guess opeths not for me then :( . there still a good band.

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]GnRguitarist[/B]
Do all opeth songs have a lot of screaming in them? jw because i downloaded one of them (it was something about a park im not quite sure though) and i didnt like it because of all the screaming (i am not a big fan of metal). so are they all like that?[/QUOTE]

Pretty much all of the albums except Orchid have at least one soft, acoustic song. Try the song Harvest, thats the first Opeth song i ever heard and it got me hooked on them.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]Pretty much all of the albums except Orchid have at least one soft, acoustic song. Try the song Harvest, thats the first Opeth song i ever heard and it got me hooked on them.[/QUOTE]
ok.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]Pretty much all of the albums except Orchid have at least one soft, acoustic song. Try the song Harvest, thats the first Opeth song i ever heard and it got me hooked on them.[/QUOTE]

Harvest, first Opeth song I heard, genius...

*memories*

April ethereal, first song i heard..............i thought it was trash.............then it grew on me...........and kept growing:) and now, it's always in my top 5 songs:)

is there any song that you guys find kind of weak for Opeth standards? I think i would have to say the Amen Corner, that just doesnt appeal to me the way the other songs do.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]is there any song that you guys find kind of weak for Opeth standards? I think i would have to say the Amen Corner, that just doesnt appeal to me the way the other songs do.[/QUOTE]

For me it would be Ending Credits. Don't get me wrong, I like it quite a bit, but it tends to get on my nerves after I hear it a few times.

[QUOTE=Gibbers3095]For me it would be Ending Credits. Don't get me wrong, I like it quite a bit, but it tends to get on my nerves after I hear it a few times.[/QUOTE]

could it be the repetitiveness (sp?) and i agree with amen corner, it's one of the only songs i don't rate highly on the MAYH album, i still like it, just not as much. Also, many would disagree, but i say Wreath, that's never done much for me.

yes, for me the first time i was listening to Amen Corner i found it to be a really cool song, but it kind of lost me about halfway through.

The Amen Corner loses me everytime. I like the individual parts and riffs and such, but the song as a whole just never manages to hold my interest all the way through.

:lol: ok good im not the only one :lol:

i dislike Moonlapse Vertigo i dont really know why, it just does nothing for me.

[QUOTE=deadinholywood]i dislike Moonlapse Vertigo i dont really know why, it just does nothing for me.[/QUOTE]

/me slaps you

for moonlapse vertigo is my favourite song by opeth :(