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Dancin' Man 01-24-2005 10:53 PM

I think if Celtic Frost as thrash with harsh vocals. Calling it black metal just doesn't seem right, sort of like CoB, Kalmah and Norther being called BM.

Permanent Solution 01-24-2005 10:55 PM

Funny, I was thinking Thrash too when I heard it more than BM...meh :p

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 02:12 PM

[b]Journey - Seperate Ways[/b]

So, I have heard like 2 Journey songs in ym entire life and remember not liking it but that was a long time ago.

Begins with a kinda cheesy synth but it's also kinda cool. '80's.

Then the guitars drive in with the drums and the synth changes. Vocals. He sounds a little funny, but not bad. I'm loving the synths. They're lamer than cheesy BM synths but great.

The chorus is great. the lyrics. I love the lyrics. "Someday, love will find you" and it's kind of like a chant. ha. I hate 80's music but I'm digging this.

Later on the drummer has a kind of cool little fill but I have no problem saying none of these players are masters of their trade. The guitar solo is slow and relaxed but sounds good. I suppose that's what counts. There is a fast section but it's not mind numbing. The last half of the song is really killer. It has a whole bunch of little solos and interludes and bridges and then the chorus, one last time. The outro is also pretty cool

I won't look for more but if stumble across it, I'll take it.
7/10


Rwake - Forge
Lykathea Aflame - To Give
Naglfar - Brimstone Gate
Dillinger Escape Plan - When Good Dogs do Bad Things
Alabama Thunder Pus[b][i][/b][/i]sy - Bear Baiting

Pus[b][i][/b][/i]sy should not be sensored.

Bartender 01-25-2005 02:14 PM

Dibs, on whatever he eventually chooses.

Bartender 01-25-2005 02:19 PM

This has to be a fu[color=white]c[/color]king joke of some variety. Now, MSN, AIM and Soulseek all refuse to work for me (at least in so far as actually transferring anyway).

Revoked.

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 02:21 PM

Slsk - Fast Fingers
AIM - Viking vs Pirate (I may be leaving soon but I'll leave Slsk up)

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 06:47 PM

t3h boomp

Iron Man 01-25-2005 07:02 PM

I have "To Give", I might be able to do one...don't count on it though

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 07:03 PM

Aim?

Iron Man 01-25-2005 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]Aim?[/QUOTE]

AIM username = Kataikishi...but I have a ton of homework to do before tomorrow so I don't think I'll be able to do one, maybe I can give the song to someone else if needed

Permanent Solution 01-25-2005 07:37 PM

Meh, I said Arena Rock...what'd you expect :p

If I am not busy later I might do this one...

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 07:42 PM

I'll be doing them all night so long as I can find other people to do it too. I'll probably be whoring this thread for a few hours.

Permanent Solution 01-25-2005 08:42 PM

[b]Alabama Thunder Pu[color=white]ssy[/color] - Bear Baiting[/b]

I guess the Southern influences are in there a little bit vocally, but I barely noticed it, what I did notice was all the other aspects of the music. Bass, guitar, drums, all very good. The vocals were definitely the worst part of the music to me, but they weren't bad, except by comparison. Intro starts with a neat riff and starts the song off fun before going into the verse.

A rather long song, not quite enough in there to break it up and keep it fresh all the time. I have a short attention span, so it seemed to drag a bit in places. Overall though, had it been a little shorter it would have been solid throughout imo. Lead guitar had some fun parts, and some parts where it was pretty non-existent, as would be expected, but I still wish there had been more lead work. Outro was very draggy...30 seconds of feedback...gets boring. Would have been neat to go from the slow breakdown back into a speedy section before ending, but oh well.

8/10 I will probably look into some more stuff by them.

Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe - Themes (Progressive Rock)
The Refreshments - Mekong (Alt./Classic Rock)
38th Parallel - Higher Ground (Hard Rock)
Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution - Here's to Life (3rd wave ska)
MeWithoutYou - Torches Together (Post-Hardcore)

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 08:46 PM

Dibs

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 09:06 PM

[b]The Refreshments - Mekong[/b]

Never heard of these guys before.

This song begins with a cool ska sounding guitar riff but the chord progression is better than what I expected.

Then there are the drums which also sound good and a cool lead guitar part. The singer comes in with that slightly punk sneer, nasal voice but it's really thin in that aspect and he hits all the right notes. I like the voice much better than the average punk voice.

The lyrics sound good too. Nothing too deep but good. The guitar solo thing comes back but later there is a very very cool solo that sounds very classic rock-ish. Only problem - It's too short.

This band is tight. No little mishaps or poor choices musically, just straight up goodness. It's also very easy to listen to.

9/10


Rwake - Forge (prog doom)
Lykathea Aflame - To Give (Super melodic Brutal Death)
Naglfar - Brimstone Gate (Melodic Black/Death)
Dillinger Escape Plan - Highway Robbery (Progressive Hardcore)

Permanent Solution 01-25-2005 09:32 PM

[b]Rwake - Forge[/b]

Starts with a neat sound byte, and quickly rushes into the song proper. I loved the sound byte, very comical, and flows nicely into the song. Simple chord riff to begin, but guitars add in harmony. Vocals I found to be a little comical. They work well though, the guy screaming in the background was distracting at first, but added layers once I was used to it.

I will admit, I had no idea what to expect coming into it, having never heard any doom before. I was not disappointed by it, good lead guitar work in the song, nice riffs. Not necessarily solos, but it all fit well in context, and harmonizes well with the band as a whole. Drums were relatively simple for metal, but, it fit well enough, so no complaints. Interesting outro with work on intervals, sounds very neat, and then completes the sound clip in ending, very cool. It had to grow on me, but once it did I liked it. I was originally thinking 7, but by the end, this would be either an 8 or 9 most definitely, but I'll go with 8, because it still could improve vocally at the least, but no problems with variety for sure.

8/10

Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe - Themes (Progressive Rock)
38th Parallel - Higher Ground (Hard Rock)
Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution - Here's to Life (3rd wave ska)
MeWithoutYou - Torches Together (Post-Hardcore)
Project 86 - Pipe Dream (Metal of some type, maybe Nu?)

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 09:55 PM

Dibs

Dancin' Man 01-25-2005 10:05 PM

[b]MeWithoutYou - Torches Together[/b]

Never heard them

Begins with some feedback and what sounds like a radio in the back. The drums and another guitar with a real riff. Pretty cool.

There's a drum beat that you think is going to lead into a heavier section but goes back and the vocals join. They're kind of funny sounding. He's sort of yelling sort of singing. Preaching I suppose. This same thing goes on with thebeat that you think is going to make the song explode but doesn't All the parts are very cool I must say.

Then the beat comes back and it does explode. It's very melodic. The lyrics seem kind of pseudo intelligent. These guys remind me of ATD-I but are definitely different.

The song just sort of ends. It seems to have two very distinct sections. It was good but not amazing.

8/10

Lykathea Aflame - To Give (Super melodic Brutal Death)
Naglfar - Brimstone Gate (Melodic Black/Death)
Dillinger Escape Plan - Highway Robbery (Progressive Hardcore)
Borknagar - The Dawn of the End (Progressive Black Metal)

Permanent Solution 01-25-2005 10:35 PM

[b]Naglfar - Brimstone Gate[/b]

This, I like. Catchy and grabby intro. Fantastic musically, and vocals that I have become adapted to. Strikes me as similar to Dimmu Borgir, as I expected. Driving double bass and nice guitar riffs, this song has it all for me. I like the vocals a lot actually as far as their style goes. Never stuck on any one note instrumentally either, seems to change roots every quarter note, very impressive. Could definitely be longer. Nice little instrumental breaks are my favorite part. Fade out endings are a little anti-climactic for me, but otherwise a solid piece, I wish there had been a better ending so I could give it a 10.

9/10

Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe - Themes (Progressive Rock)
38th Parallel - Higher Ground (Hard Rock)
Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution - Here's to Life (3rd wave ska)
Project 86 - Pipe Dream (Metal of some type, maybe Nu?)
Mod Flanders Conspiracy - Such is the Wrath of the Thrice Angered Manatee (Hardcore ish)

i am the robots 01-26-2005 11:56 AM

dibsssssssssssssssssss

I'll get to doing the review when I get home from school.

Permanent Solution 01-26-2005 06:19 PM

...

Dancin' Man 01-26-2005 11:38 PM

[b]Banits of the Acoustic Revolution - Here's to Life[/b]
I have no idea what 3rd wave ska is opposed to ska ska.

Begins with an acoustic guitar and maybe a bass back there somewhere. Pretty cool riff. Then we get the drums and horns. It sounds like a polka. The singer has that voice. I really like these punk singer voices lately. There is a better horn section when the vocals drop out. I really like these ones.

I think there's a cello in there too. The drummer...are there two maybe? The song doesn't seem to match the title. It isn't as happy go-lucky as I'd hoped.

It really does sound like a polka. There are a bunch of little breaks for horns and that cello. I think it's a cello. Maybe it's some horn I didn't know existed. There's also a piano part in the middle. I like that this song is long but has tons of variation.

8/10
I liked it but it seemed to be lacking something.

Furia - Un Lac De Larmes Et De Sang
Vanden Plas - The Sun
Dead Soul Tribe - Sirens
Therion - Cold Seed
Iniquity - Tides of Vengance
Age of Silence - A Song for D Incorporated

slsk-Fast Fingers
AIM - Viking Vs Pirate

Devil Inferno 01-27-2005 04:21 AM

dibs

Dancin' Man 01-27-2005 10:00 AM

Well he downloaded the song off of me on slsk so says my uploads (I assume. Most people don't download just one Age of Silence song if they do at all) but he has waited 5:30 to do it. This is a bump.

i am the robots 01-27-2005 11:42 AM

sorry bout not doing the fl, im grounded fromthe internet for a month

Bartender 01-27-2005 03:42 PM

Bump, unless you can email me a song?

Dancin' Man 01-27-2005 03:49 PM

What's your Email. I know we both have Gmail so that isn't a problem. Maybe I should give mine in case you don't want yours out there. [email]Peter.mchugh@gmail.com[/email]

Bartender 01-27-2005 03:50 PM

Mine's [email]eruantien@gmail.com[/email]. It's in my profile, so I'm not that bothered about handing it out :)

Dancin' Man 01-27-2005 04:53 PM

Scent.

Bartender 01-27-2005 05:03 PM

Okay, it's downloading, dibs. Thanks.

Bartender 01-27-2005 05:37 PM

Never heard, or heard of, these guys before.
[b]Furia - Un Lac De Larmes Et De Sang[/b] - 4:47

Starts off with some church organs playing what seems like it's supposed to be a haunting tone. Soon joined by (slightly buried) church bells, and (male, I think) choral non-lyrical vocals. Around 0:26, the 'normal' instruments come in, the drums doing some very dramatic sounding pounding, which is pretty cool. I like this so far, it's reminding me a little of some Hollenthon (on Domus Mundi) stuff, except that so far, there isn't much of a hint, and certainly no guarantee, that it'll contain metal.

Oh, now this is weird. Guitars playing a reasonably simple metal riff, and there's some weird, pulsing electronic noises going on (vocals, maybe?). More conventional harsh vocals come in now. Sounds like two vocalists, though it could just be the one guy with two styles. The guitar and drums are both pretty good, so far, and various effects and stuff are still going on in the background.

This bit I like a lot. Around 2:00, there's all kinds of good stuff going on. The song's tune is now excellent, and the guitar is doing some very cool things.

It's basically carrying on in this 'awesome' vein for now. Around 2:40, I think, some kind of annoying synths or keyboards or something some in for a short while, but they're not awful, so I don't mind.

Slower bit now, more chugging, still liking it.

Hurrah, the awesome melody bit happens again just before 4:00. Song finishes on a prolonged vocal yell.

9/10 That was excellent, apart from a few occasionally annoying electronic noises or synths.

[b]Songs;[/b]
Mastodon - [i]Blood And Thunder[/i] (metal - unsure further than that)
Refused - [i]New Noise[/i] (hardcore)
Olivia Tremor Control - [i]A Sunshine Fix[/i] (lo-fi)
Hollenthon - [i]Lure [Palladia Mors][/i] ('world-music metal')
Nonpoint - [i]Double Stakked[/i] (nu metal)
boyhitscar (or Boy Hits Car) - [i]As I Watch the Sun Fu[color=white]u[/color]k the Ocean[/i] (Jane's Addiction-worshipping rock)

suicidal dreams 01-27-2005 06:25 PM

Dibs

suicidal dreams 01-27-2005 06:56 PM

Refused - New Noise (5:08)
 
I had never heard the Refused but always wanted to get around to it so I thought I would use this opportunity to listen to a song.

0:00 to 0:09 - Very nice first guitar riff, that riff got me digging this song almost straight away.

0:10 to 0:19 - The guitar riff keeps going with some help from a hi-hat (I think), really builds up and then delivers.

0:20 to 0:37 - The drums really come into play in this section and they are playing really nicely too.

0:38 to 0:46 - All instruments kick in and they start to make some noise.

0:47 to 1:08 - Some weird synthesizer thing hits in, only bad part of the song.

1:09 to 3:04 - The vocals hit and are aided by some pretty heavy banging and crashing. I'm liking the who's and there's even bits of the first g-tar riff with some talking over the top.

3:05 to 3:25 - I'd almost call this a breakdown. Good stuff this.

3:26 to 3:32 - Goes to silence and then some weird track :confused:

3:33 - 5:08 - Bass drum hits and it goes back to normal for a big closing. Some bass solo's and stuff are nice before the volume gets turned way up and goes back to the formula for the ending of the song.

All in all, I loved this song, apart from the two synthesized bits it was brilliant. Great screaming, great g-tar, great bass, great drums. I'm loving this!
Does anyone know if there's anyways this weird synthesizer parts in Refused songs or just sometimes because I think I'll download some more of this band!

Rating 8/10 :thumb:

Songs To Review:

Nirvana - Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (Grunge/Nirvana style, lol)
or
Poison The Well - Ghost Chant (Hardcore)
or
Killswitch Engage - A Bid Farewell (Hardcore/Metal)

If these songs have already been done that's my bad but I'm too lazy to read through all the pages :p

Silenius 01-27-2005 06:57 PM

You didn't rate the song you reviewed.

CaptainWaits 01-27-2005 07:32 PM

I'm gonna dibs and do Killswitch and see if their any good to as people say.

I doubt it, but it's worth a try

Dancin' Man 01-27-2005 08:19 PM

Hurry and revoke this, I want to do the Nirvana song (hasn't heard any Nirvana in at least a year, maybe more)

CaptainWaits 01-27-2005 08:24 PM

[U][B]Killswith Engage - A Bid Farwell[/B][/U]


0:00 - 0:46... Good beginning, don't appeal to the singers scream at the beggining though, and I have a feeling he'll do more of it in this song

0:47 - 1:28... The Verse and Chorus are here, singer isn't bad when he does his usually voice, but he his scream isn't all that great, and he's brutal at singing soft, it just ruins the song. There's a pretty cool Melodic Part at the chorus too.

1:29 - 2:28... Same thing happens here as in the 0:47 - 1:28 mark, just a bit longer.

2:29 - 3:11... The bridge of the song. I like the guitar here.

3:12 - 3:55 (end)... The song stops for about 2 seconds, then goes back into the chorus.


Overall, decent for a Hardcore band, I keep on tryin, but I still haven't found a Hardcore band I enjoy a lot, and I don't know if I will. I also just realized that this is the band who does "Rose of Sharyn", which isn't all that bad of a song itself.

7/10


[U][I]Recommendations:[/I][/U]

[B]Amorphis - Into Hiding[/B] (Death/Doom metal, slow and very creative and artsy)
[B]Rage - Solitary Man[/B] (No, not RATM, it's the band Rage from Germany. Power/Speed Metal, very very cool babd that I'd like to see get recognized more)
[B]Dimmu Borgir - In Death's Embrace[/B] (Older Dimmu from '97. Symphonic Death Metal, more keyboard influenced than their newer stuff, and probably not as heavy)
[B]Anata - Under the Debris[/B] (Swedish Death Metal. Great band all around, great singer, bassist, guitarists and drummer)

Dancin' Man 01-27-2005 08:25 PM

Dibs.

blueyxd 01-27-2005 08:36 PM

I'll dib that Age of Silence one if you recommend it this time FF

Dancin' Man 01-27-2005 08:46 PM

[b]Dimmu Borgir - In Death's Embrace[/b]
I've heard some single of their's and remember it being pretty good, especially for an MTV band.

Begins very well with some great drums and a blended guitar and then the keyboard. The keyboard is killer. They don't sound cheesy, they sound like a real piano. The intro repeats many times but it's fast and good so I don't mind. The vocals come in when the keyboards go out. I like the voice.

There is a slower section with a very classical piano sounding part with a guitar solo too. Shame the guitarist isn't really tearing away. I wish more blackmetal were more guitar heavy in the mix.

Then there is a synth part with no drums and a badly mastered bass.

Every part in this song is very enjoyable. There also isn't a lot of repetition in terms of hearing the same part many times. The song ends really well too, no fade-out crap.

Basically, this song is awesome. I am definitely looking into the guys some more. I have no complaints. The synths were used well and weren't cheesy, the vocals were good, the drummer was always doing his thing well, there was a guitar solo, not a great guitar solo, but it was there, and the song wasn't boring.

9/10

Porcupine Tree - Baby Dream in Cellophane
Amorphis - Veil of Sin
Watch Me Fall - Silent Aeons
And the Age of Silence one for Blue.

Slsk: Fast Fingers
AIM: Viking Vs Pirate


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