AFI, I really like Sing the Sorrow and Black Sails, those are the only two albums I own of their's but I have a bunch of random songs from my punk compilations. It seems people aren't into Sing the Sorrow, but to me it's an amazing album, it may lack the intensity that most punk has, but what it makes up for is in sheer song craft and ideas. Also the sounds Butch Vig creates when he produces albums is something I would desire when I release an album on a label. I think Davey Havok's voice is rather good, it reminds me of Glenn Danzig but a little more attack and higher pitched, but you can hear the influence. Black Sails is a good album, but I think it lacks the strength that Sing the Sorrow had when it comes to sheer writing. But that's just me. AFI is a great band anyway you look at it.

basically afi just grew up which is why we have such differences from answer that and stay fashionable to sing the sorrow....that and the fact that eventually jade and hunter came and kicked total as's...imo

by the way, you can download the song Rabbits are Roadkill on Route 37 by right-clicking and "save target as" [url=http://www.afiseries.com/download/mp3s/RabbitsAreRoadkillOnRoute37.mp3]this link[/url]. It is provided FREE by afiseries so no one jump on me about download links. Or go to [url]http://afiseries.com[/url] and read the news and download it yourself. Whatever. It's a free song.

The interview where they played it can also be downloaded at afiseries [url=http://www.afivideos.com/forums/dload.php?file=AFI-KROQ-October-05-Interview.mp3]here[/url] (right-click "save target as" just like with RAROR37)

By the way, it's not a new song. It was recorded during the STS sessions and just now is being released (finally). It is neither a new single nor anything to do with the album-in-progress.

That song is fecking awesome. I love the breakdown in it.

maco, I'm going to start uploading Born In The USA in a few minutes.

Sent.

Once this thead goes to 1,000 posts, I'm writing up a proposal to make it official, replace the first post with the Band Profile I wrote, and get anyone who calls them gay or emo banned.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]Sent.

Once this thead goes to 1,000 posts, I'm writing up a proposal to make it official, replace the first post with the Band Profile I wrote, and get anyone who calls them gay or emo banned.[/QUOTE]


Wonderful idea.

[QUOTE=maco]Havok not Havoc
he's not gay
too not to
they're not emo[/QUOTE]

Whatever their latest album sucked and it made me want to kill myself it was that laothing...don't ever correct me again either...and if you don't KNOW he is gay then you are just another member in denial

[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]Whatever their latest album sucked and it made me want to kill myself it was that laothing...don't ever correct me again either...and if you don't KNOW he is gay then you are just another member in denial[/QUOTE]
And please tell me how you KNOW he is gay....
I would really like to hear it.



This homophobia coming from the man who would suck Sid Vicious' c'ock if he was still alive is quite confusing.

Please leave the thread, and while you're at it, leave the forums.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]And please tell me how you KNOW he is gay....
I would really like to hear it.



This homophobia coming from the man who would suck Sid Vicious' c'ock if he was still alive is quite confusing.

Please leave the thread, and while you're at it, leave the forums.[/QUOTE]

Wow...I really wonder where you get the notion that I would suck sid vicious' dic[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE] is coming from...Just because you are a fan of someone that means you want to have sex with them? You're an idiot...I know he is gay because my sister is a big fan of theirs and got backstage after one of their shows and find out there right from Mr. Havok's mouth...try to argue with that.

Anyways, keep suckin balls dude and tell me how that works out. I hate this band so I am going to leave now.

[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]I know he is gay because my sister is a big fan of theirs and got backstage after one of their shows and find out there right from Mr. Havok's mouth...try to argue with that.[/QUOTE]
Do you ever find it strange that your sister is the only person in the world he has revealed this to? And what if he was gay? Would you really dislike a band because they have a gay member?



[QUOTE]Anyways, keep suckin balls dude and tell me how that works out. I hate this band so I am going to leave now.[/QUOTE]
Thank you.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]Do you ever find it strange that your sister is the only person in the world he has revealed this to?




Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Whatever...deal with it or not it is your choice

[url]http://www.gothic.net/boards/archive/index.php/t-85.html[/url]
[url]http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/afi__2.html[/url]

Read these fan forums and then see what you think and read his thrasher interview if you get chance...

AFI is my favorite band because i can listen to them in whatever mood Im in. If Im happy I'll out in answer that and stay fashionable, angry ver Proud ya or shut your mouth and open your eyes. Sad any of the newer stuff. And personally sing The sorrow isnt that bad. It got me into AFI. I may seem like a "poseur" or whatever but I love that cd but very proud of ya is the best.

[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]Whatever...deal with it or not it is your choice

[url]http://www.gothic.net/boards/archive/index.php/t-85.html[/url]
[url]http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/afi__2.html[/url]

Read these fan forums and then see what you think and read his thrasher interview if you get chance...[/QUOTE]
I read the first forum.
Person 1 said Davey was gay. Person 2 wasn't sure and asked for a source. Person 1 follows...


[QUOTE=Person1]hey, what the hell does it matter? and if it does matter so much, just google "gay davey" or whatever the hell his name is...[/QUOTE]
Hey, that person has the same intelligence level as you, Mr. Maverick! He has no proof whatsoever that Davey was gay. He just hated how all the girls thought Davey was hotter than him. Sure this isn't you?

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]I read the first forum.
Person 1 said Davey was gay. Person 2 wasn't sure and asked for a source. Person 1 follows...



Hey, that person has the same intelligence level as you, Mr. Maverick! He has no proof whatsoever that Davey was gay. He just hated how all the girls thought Davey was hotter than him. Sure this isn't you?[/QUOTE]

If you don't want to have an intelligent conversation I won't bother...I have an opinion you have an opinion obviously we are both stubborn jerks...I really amd not worried about Davey getting girls because I have a girlfriend so I am not really concerned with how hot he is...and if you think that go right on ahead. As far as real proof besides what I have already said this is what I based my opinion off:

[url]http://foxweb.marist.edu/users/emily.dovi/album5/032.html[/url]

[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/My-Boxers/Davey%20Havok/daveymakeup.jpg[/url]

I understand the 2nd one might just be prepping for a show but he looks kinda sketchy in it...and the first one please don't even argue with it. Oh and does he have a girlfriend or wife? Not that not having one makes you gay but......

So, every time you see a male kissing another on the cheek, that automatically makes them gay? I've seen straight men kiss other men on the lips.

And the second picture seriously holds no significance at all. There are pictures of every AFI member (and members of other bands) doing something like that.

Do you really think you know more about a band that you don't like than thousands of people that follow the band and have done a lot of research on?

the first picture is hardcore punks being hardcore punks


the second pic is something davey has commented on in hundreds of interviews,it does not in any way make him gay or bisexual, it makes him say "hey i'm making a statement"

[QUOTE=animepunk333]the first picture is hardcore punks being hardcore punks


the second pic is something davey has commented on in hundreds of interviews,it does not in any way make him gay or bisexual, it makes him say "hey i'm making a statement"[/QUOTE]

Hardcore punks? Please...

ok you can go away now

cause i really don't care what afi sounds like now a days. to me they're still the best fu'ckin punk band ever

Whether Davey is gay, straight, bi, or asexual does not matter. It only matters to someone with the intent of a date. However, Jade says Davey's not gay. The band denies him being homosexual. If he is and is lying, fine. He can be in the closet. Just take his word for it. He says he's not gay, so as far as any of us are concerned, he's not. It's been suggested by "my intimate is no one" in ...But Home is Nowhere that he could be asexual. Who really cares though?

[QUOTE=animepunk333]ok you can go away now

cause i really don't care what afi sounds like now a days. to me they're still the best fu'ckin punk band ever[/QUOTE]

Do you think that they are hardcore because they have tatoos or what??? How can anyone say they are hardcore? Maybe hardcore goth...

ok you can go kill yourself now

thats something i would say since i think everything is "hardcore gothic" :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]Whatever...deal with it or not it is your choice

[url]http://www.gothic.net/boards/archive/index.php/t-85.html[/url]
[url]http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/afi__2.html[/url]

Read these fan forums and then see what you think and read his thrasher interview if you get chance...[/QUOTE]
Do you mean the one with the "I blow!" joke? I'm not sure, but he could respond like I do. I have been called a lesbian before. I don't care, I just make jokes about it instead. Like, a girl goes "ugh guys are so annoying! i hate guy problems and they're all a'ssholes!" and I went "So go for girls!" See? It's a joke! He gets called gay so often that it just becomes "eh...why fight it? play along" I have a copy of Under the Rose 2 right in front of me. It includes
D=Davey
S=Sammy (All Bets Off)
D: Umm... you know a lot about prostitutes, unlike myself.
S: You that that the 'trick' was the prostitute. The trick is actually the customer. When a prostitute 'turns a trick,' it's working a customer. A lot of prostitutes in San Francisco refer to their pimps as 'coaches'.
D: Nice euphemism. That's positive. And the prostitutes themselves?
S: They refer to themselves as hos. I like 'painted ladies'.
D: I like painted boys.
S: Well, you [i]are[/i] a painted boy.
D: True. I talked to someone who told me they saw a transsexual prostitute who was walking down the street and was like "Hey, honey! Do you want some of this" and slaps his ***, "or do you want some of this?" And whips out his d'ick. And he had boobs.
S: I've spent plenty of time where the tranny prostitutes work; some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. Fritch, leave that out. The whole thing about "I love trannies."
*laughter*
D: Who's this hot girl that you keep following around?

See? He jokes around.


[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]If you don't want to have an intelligent conversation I won't bother...I have an opinion you have an opinion obviously we are both stubborn jerks...I really amd not worried about Davey getting girls because I have a girlfriend so I am not really concerned with how hot he is...and if you think that go right on ahead. As far as real proof besides what I have already said this is what I based my opinion off:

[url]http://foxweb.marist.edu/users/emily.dovi/album5/032.html[/url]

[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/My-Boxers/Davey%20Havok/daveymakeup.jpg[/url]

I understand the 2nd one might just be prepping for a show but he looks kinda sketchy in it...and the first one please don't even argue with it. Oh and does he have a girlfriend or wife? Not that not having one makes you gay but......[/QUOTE]
First one: I think they asked if they could kiss him for a photo. There's another guy jumping in the [original] picture like "Look! I'm meeting him too!" They're posing.
Second one: Makeup makes you gay? Uh....


[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]Do you think that they are hardcore because they have tatoos or what??? How can anyone say they are hardcore? Maybe hardcore goth...[/QUOTE]
Go listen to A Single Second. Please! And goth? You've got to be kidding me. Do you have any idea what goth music is? Have you listened to Bauhaus or The Death Cult?

listen to cruise control and then have your "signifigant other" adopt that maxim

[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]If you don't want to have an intelligent conversation I won't bother...I have an opinion you have an opinion obviously we are both stubborn jerks...I really amd not worried about Davey getting girls because I have a girlfriend so I am not really concerned with how hot he is...and if you think that go right on ahead. As far as real proof besides what I have already said this is what I based my opinion off:

[url]http://foxweb.marist.edu/users/emily.dovi/album5/032.html[/url]

[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/My-Boxers/Davey%20Havok/daveymakeup.jpg[/url]

I understand the 2nd one might just be prepping for a show but he looks kinda sketchy in it...and the first one please don't even argue with it. Oh and does he have a girlfriend or wife? Not that not having one makes you gay but......[/QUOTE]

You say something extremely idiotic and expect someone to reply intelligently? You are a bigger idiot then I thought you were.

[QUOTE=Brain Squirmin' Like a Toad]You say something extremely idiotic and expect someone to reply intelligently? You are a bigger idiot then I thought you were.[/QUOTE]

I just love this...you guys are all so proccupied with getting angry at me...it is so ridiculous. Yeah a lot of the stuff I do stay is stubborn and stupid but I have opinions and it isn't my fault that everyone has to be so uptight about everything...get over it, if you really want to stop hearing my comments don't reply to them and just ignore them. There are too many punk kids (yeah that is right kids...I bet half of you are 17 or younger who have no real experience to share except what they learn in forums) in this place to have a real good convo about anything. That is what I do when I come across a stupid post by someone in a thread that I like...I hate how everyone is so god **** territorial in this joint. It is like this freaky as[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE] rule that everyone follows. If someone who has a crapload of posts says something it is deemed the word of god...but if anyone else says it they are just a noob idiot...this close mindedness is killing me :lol:

[QUOTE=Maverick_Special]I just love this...you guys are all so proccupied with getting angry at me...it is so ridiculous. Yeah a lot of the stuff I do stay is stubborn and stupid but I have opinions and it isn't my fault that everyone has to be so uptight about everything...get over it, if you really want to stop hearing my comments don't reply to them and just ignore them. That is what I do when I come across a stupid post by someone in a thread that I like...I hate how everyone is so god **** territorial in this joint. It is like this freaky *** rule that everyone follows. If someone who has a crapload of posts says something it is deemed the word of god...but if anyone else says it they are just a noob idiot...this close mindedness is killing me :lol:[/QUOTE]

Coming into a thread about a band, and saying the fans suck balls and the band sucks IS against the rules, hence you will get attacked and called an idiot, because you are one!

I have an easy way to ignore you, how about a ban.

[QUOTE=Brain Squirmin' Like a Toad]Coming into a thread about a band, and saying the fans suck balls and the band sucks IS against the rules, hence you will get attacked and called an idiot, because you are one!

I have an easy way to ignore you, how about a ban.[/QUOTE]
All in favour say "aye"!

"AYE!"

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]Sent.

Once this thead goes to 1,000 posts, I'm writing up a proposal to make it official, replace the first post with the Band Profile I wrote, and get anyone who calls them gay or emo banned.[/QUOTE]

I've been waiting to make it official, but I a lot of people are against a lot of official threads. I may just link the profile and not merge.

aye

brain squirmin' like a toad = my favorite mod