yeah, the 2002 power is a good one to look into....a sig power crash if you can afford it though.

i got to play the 18 inch dimension power crash i wasnt a big fan of it and the signature 18 inch full went so well with 18 inch power signature that i had to get it.

i didnt get the one at the store though but most paistes are very consistent so i dont mind mail ordering it

Help, Paiste 2002 17" Medium crash, Zildjian Avedis 17" medium crash or Sabian AA 17" medium crash?

cymbals
 

my crash just cracked so i need to get a new. i'm on a budget. i like to play metal. i like the paiste rude series but there out of my price range. plz help

crash
 

[QUOTE=chuckdrums]my crash just cracked so i need to get a new. i'm on a budget. i like to play metal. i like the paiste rude series but there out of my price range. plz help[/QUOTE]
o yea and i forgot to say it has to be durable

look into the Alpha Power Crash.

Okay, I want an agressive metal (music)-type sound. Needs to cut through live. Also, I play pretty hard, so it needs to be strong. I was thinking Sabian AA Metal-X. Will these work for what I'm looking for?

[QUOTE=Dave*Grohl]Help, Paiste 2002 17" Medium crash, Zildjian Avedis 17" medium crash or Sabian AA 17" medium crash?[/QUOTE]
i tried the 2002 recently and its a cool line of cymbals very "early rock" sounding.

but if i were you id go with the sabian or the paiste (i dont like the A ZILDJIAN line of cymbals)

Okay, would you think that a Sabian AAX metal crash would fit punk music?

i think so but im not a sabian guru so you should definetly check it out or wait for somebody more educated in the sabian line to help

[QUOTE=chuckdrums]my crash just cracked so i need to get a new. i'm on a budget. i like to play metal. i like the paiste rude series but there out of my price range. plz help[/QUOTE]
cymbal needs to be durable and $100 or under

[QUOTE=Dave*Grohl]Okay, would you think that a Sabian AAX metal crash would fit punk music?[/QUOTE]

it would fit for punk, but it's not very versistile.

I WANT A SABIAN 18" CRASH, EITHER AA / AAX / HH / HHX BRILLIANT FINISH. Anyone got one for sale??????????????

Thanks

Nick

If the AAX Metal crash will fint but wont be verstatile will the Stage Crash be better? Whats the weight? I would use it as my main crash and wouldnt really like it to crack! thanks for the help!

[QUOTE=westy_uk]I WANT A SABIAN 18" CRASH, EITHER AA / AAX / HH / HHX BRILLIANT FINISH. Anyone got one for sale??????????????

Thanks

Nick[/QUOTE]

no ads in my thread :smash:

[quote]If the AAX Metal crash will fint but wont be verstatile will the Stage Crash be better? Whats the weight? I would use it as my main crash and wouldnt really like it to crack! thanks for the help![/quote]

the Stage is a Medium-thin, the Metal is a Medium-heavy

grab an AA Medium Crash and get the best of both worlds.

AA Medium crashes are the sex. My 18" is perfect rock crash....its plenty heavy. I don't understand why people would want medium-heavies or rock weights.

I really want a second crash, and I was thinking a 19 inch sabian
aax explosion, I play like punkpop/rock/metal and stuff like that, I was
wondering if this is a good choice

Recently I have been looking onto adding a few cymbals to my drum set. Currently I have 8 Zildjian cymbals and 2 CB cymabls (The CBs came with my first set, I like them because they sound like small chinas) Anyways I have found a cymbal brand entitled Wuhan and I was interested in them. 2 crashs (16' and 18') and a china (18') for 99.00. I first thought they may sound like **** but after reading a few reviews I read that they are best for the metal/black metal scene which is perfect because I play that style of music. So anyways I was going to get the following:
CYMBAL PACK 1-99.99
-16' Crash
-18' Crash
-18' China

CYMBAL PACK 2-99.99
-17' Crash
-19' China
-20' China

CYMBAL PACK 3-64.99
-09' Splash
-12' Splash

So I will have a combination of Zildjian ZBT/ZXT and Wuhan, what do you think? I am only 14 and I can't really spend alot of money on Zildjian crash packs because like two crashs are what around 300.00, when I can get 8 cymbals for 276.00 with taX (Not counting the stands)

Why would you need 3 Chinas?

[QUOTE]I really want a second crash, and I was thinking a 19 inch sabian
aax explosion, I play like punkpop/rock/metal and stuff like that, I was
wondering if this is a good choice[/QUOTE]It's an okay carsh but wouldn't recommend it for a mian crash, more like an accent cymbal cause it is very punchy.[QUOTE]Recently I have been looking onto adding a few cymbals to my drum set. Currently I have 8 Zildjian cymbals and 2 CB cymabls (The CBs came with my first set, I like them because they sound like small chinas) Anyways I have found a cymbal brand entitled Wuhan and I was interested in them. 2 crashs (16' and 18') and a china (18') for 99.00. I first thought they may sound like **** but after reading a few reviews I read that they are best for the metal/black metal scene which is perfect because I play that style of music. So anyways I was going to get the following:
CYMBAL PACK 1-99.99
-16' Crash
-18' Crash
-18' China

CYMBAL PACK 2-99.99
-17' Crash
-19' China
-20' China

CYMBAL PACK 3-64.99
-09' Splash
-12' Splash

So I will have a combination of Zildjian ZBT/ZXT and Wuhan, what do you think? I am only 14 and I can't really spend alot of money on Zildjian crash packs because like two crashs are what around 300.00, when I can get 8 cymbals for 276.00 with taX (Not counting the stands)[/QUOTE]The Wuhans would probably be out of place with the zxt's/zbt's cause wuhans are way better but defenitly go wit them....[QUOTE]Why would you need 3 Chinas?[/QUOTE]so you have more than one sound other than just one....

i want something that has a light kindof fading away sound to hit so you can do rolls on it and it will sound good

John :smoke:

[QUOTE=Dave*Grohl]Why would you need 3 Chinas?[/QUOTE]

the question is why wouldnt he want 3 chinas?

[quote] i want something that has a light kindof fading away sound to hit so you can do rolls on it and it will sound good[/quote]

ok....now...what [i]Kind[/i] of cymbal?

Alrighty, I've come to ask a question. Now, I realise that the decision is entirely mine, but I wouldn't mind a little guidance. I'm planning on getting a crash cymbal. My primary crash actually, as I don't have one yet. My current setup is 14" A Mastersound hats and 21" Raw Bell Dry Ride. I've narrowed it down to three crashes, having tried them out a bit in my local dum shop. They are:
Sabian 18" HHX Evolution Crash
Sabian 18" Vault Crash
Paiste 18" Signature Full Crash
I'm currently leaning towards the Sabians, particularly the HHX, because although I like the Paiste, they're more consistant than the Sabians, so even if by the time I have the cash it's gone, I can order one in, confident it'll sound almost identical. I'm leaning towards the HHX particularly because I like the lower pitch crash sound, as it'll speak quickly and then fade and blend into the music. However, I need to think about the band I'm playing in too. I play in essentially and indie band, influenced from all over, but particularly by new British indie (Bloc Party, The Rakes et al) and so I'm thinking the Vault may cut more in the band situation.

Now you've read my essay, what do you say? Which would you recommend?

none of the above. if you like the lower tones, and are playing (i'm assuming) some higher energy stuff, look into the 17" HHX Stage Crash. it will be warm, but should have some cut too.

Whats the best cymbal package (14" hats, crash, ride) I can get with a budget of around $300 or less.

Thx.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]none of the above. if you like the lower tones, and are playing (i'm assuming) some higher energy stuff, look into the 17" HHX Stage Crash. it will be warm, but should have some cut too.[/QUOTE]

Actually, there was an HHX Stage. I didn't like it much to be honest. But I'll be going back. I'll give it a bit more attention next time.

maybe just try a different one. the HH/HHX cymbals change can drastically from cymbal to cymbal

[QUOTE=Strong Drummer]Whats the best cymbal package (14" hats, crash, ride) I can get with a budget of around $300 or less.

Thx.[/QUOTE]

If you already have a set of cymbals and are trying to replace bad ones i say take your 300 and buy an amazing pair of hi hats...if you ahve any money left over put that towards saving up for and amazing ride, and then crash.....however if your getting cymbals for the first time....i have no idea, i only ever had Pulse percussion, but maybe you could get paiste 802's for that much?

[QUOTE=spiritII]Actually, there was an HHX Stage. I didn't like it much to be honest. But I'll be going back. I'll give it a bit more attention next time.[/QUOTE]

have you tried out any 18"aax dark crashes...?



Also I have a question for myself.

I'm thinking of changing my cymbal set-up a bit. right now its


8"k custom splash
12" wuhan china(of course who doesnt have one)
13" paiste sig dark hats
16" k custom splash
18" aax dark crash
19" A custom crash
21" raw dry ride
22" aax metal ride

ok heres the deal. im very happy with my rides, they are so polar opposite and yet they dont clash so they are perfect. i love my hi hats and my china and my splash(though i d like to get more splashes, id like to have 3 ) the only thing i have a psuedo "problem" with are my crashes. I mean i love them all and they all sound great. BUT , the a custom doesnt sound great with the dry ride, and it doesnt sound great with the other crashes, and yet i still think i like that crash the most. SO in short, im thinking of changing my crash cymbal set up and i know that i should just goto the store and check em all out, but i wouldnt be able to do that for a while, and i wouldnt even buy anything for a while so im just looking for opinions and suggestions...what three crashes would you buy to match my other cymbals>?

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]maybe just try a different one. the HH/HHX cymbals change can drastically from cymbal to cymbal[/QUOTE]

Try a different one? Are you under the impression that my local drum shop stocks more than one of the same size of cymbal? In fact, you'd be mistaken to think that it stocks more than one of any given kind of cymbal (by "kind", I mean, for example, AAX Dark Crash, A Medium etc.). The most of any one "kind" of cymbal I've seen is 3 Vault crashes, and that was about 2 weeks ago because they just came out. Two are now gone.

[quote]have you tried out any 18"aax dark crashes...?[/quote]

Perhaps I didn't make it clear. I have tried every crash cymbal in my (one and only) local drum shop. The next nearest drum shop would involve going to Glasgow, and it's just a different branch of the same shop. The next nearest one is probably in Newcastle. Technically, I'd be going to a whole other country. I have essentially narrowed down to 2 crashes I like. I was asking for anyones opinion as to which may suit my chosen style of music better. If all anyone's going to do is suggest other symbals, I'll thank you for reading, and ask you to help someone else instead. I don't mean to sound like a jackass, but there's a reason I asked about those cymbals specifically.

You didnt make it clear, all you said was you narrowed it down to those three, you didnt say that you shop was terrible and there was no other, or that you were not open to anymore suggestions, usually people are open to more suggestions. But regardless of that, out of those three i have no real in depth expierence i only played them momentarily so I am of no use. Of what i do remember id personally pick the paiste full crash if you got the money for it and if not go for the vault.