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fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:19 AM

It is indeed a Sunday. Is there a point to that? :p

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:21 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]I respect your opinion and personal preference, but without Metal, there'd be no Metalcore. I do hate that argument though... Yes, I like modern rock, no it wouldn't exist without the Beatles (apparently), and yes, I hate the Beatles. I see no reason in trying to find bands which aren't popular to like though...

Like when people say Metallica sold out. No, they just got to a wider audience, just like any band wants to. Why criticise for them doing what they set out to do? People for some reason want little bands to put in their back pocket, and be cool to listen to, and only want themselves to listen to it. I have no idea why...[/QUOTE]

Its because with Metallica is played by everyone... Like its all you ever hear... the band may be alright but its the people who support them.

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:22 AM

So if Unearth suddenly gained Metallica's fanbase, you'd hate them?

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:26 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]So if Unearth suddenly gained Metallica's fanbase, you'd hate them?[/QUOTE]

That would happen :p silly. I find its the fans that let them done... i may be to narrow minded

Also it seems that the first song they write 'One' Was there best... Also i just don't like people going round thinking Metallica are the best have the world to offer... where there are underground bands that are better (in my mind)

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:30 AM

Of course there are better bands than Metallica, but why live in a society where you are forced to only be able to like the best? That way leads to elitism as far as I've seen.

And yes, One is one of their best songs, if not their absolute best. The version on S&M is jaw dropping.

My favourite at the moment is Call of Ktulu though.

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:30 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]It is indeed a Sunday. Is there a point to that? :p[/QUOTE]
no, its just i usually long to have a sunday off work and no i have i'm doing sweet FA

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:30 AM

Also the Drumming is pretty poor as its pretty much the same (as my drummer tells me) the singing doesnt do it for me yet Kirk Hammet is really cool and i like him

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:33 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]My favourite at the moment is Call of Ktulu though.[/QUOTE]
WOOT WOOT

we have a winner :thumb:

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:33 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Of course there are better bands than Metallica, but why live in a society where you are forced to only be able to like the best? That way leads to elitism as far as I've seen.

And yes, One is one of their best songs, if not their absolute best. The version on S&M is jaw dropping.

My favourite at the moment is Call of Ktulu though.[/QUOTE]

Fat, download Unearth - Zombie Autopilot or Black hearts now rain... im sure you're jaw would drop

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:34 AM

Ah, I love Hetfield's voice. His recent one anyway. Post Black Album. When he had to learn to sing properly. Kirk Hammett is infact very overrated, and there are many better guitarists, but I think he is pretty slick still! Lars isn't the best at all, and recently, his drumming has slowed down, and become sloppy, yet I think he still strives to find good new beats (if you've seen SKOM, you'll see what I mean), and without his business sense and songwriting (look at how many writing credits Ulrich has) it wouldn't be Metallica. I wouldn't have it any other way :)

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:34 AM

Alas, I do not download! :eek:

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:35 AM

[QUOTE=Gackt]Also the Drumming is pretty poor as its pretty much the same (as my drummer tells me) the singing doesnt do it for me yet Kirk Hammet is really cool and i like him[/QUOTE]
Lars Ulrich is the most basic drummer in the world but he contributes too much to Metallica for him not be a viable member
James never wanted to sing, when they were recording their demo 'No Sleep Till Leather' they were still looking for a full time singer to replace James
Kirk kicks 4ss
but the best assesst is James' rhythm ability and his writing ability

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:37 AM

Hmm i guess you opened my eyes up a lil, yet has anyone seen the Metalcore headbang... its the gayist thing ever...

Why do you not downloaf F.B? :(

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:37 AM

[QUOTE=Gackt]Fat, download Unearth - Zombie Autopilot or Black hearts now rain... im sure you're jaw would drop[/QUOTE]
listen to 'Cosmic Sea' by Death
[I]thats [/I] jaw dropping :thumb:

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:38 AM

Anthony, I agree entirely. Hetfield is, for my money, one of the finest rhythm players around. Especially being self taught (he originally played drums, and has no formal guitar training) and singing at the same time.

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:40 AM

yeah...he's so dreamy.....*sigh*
but Mustaine is just as good at rhythm imo

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:42 AM

Hmmm id put my money on James Root of slipknot... even tho slipknot suck he is pretty good.

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:43 AM

I normally put personality aside when talking about musicians, but I must say, when the two are considered equal, that comes in, and Dave seems an absolute arsebandit. So James wins... :lol:

I don't download because my dad doesn't trust p2p on his computer. It is his computer, so I have to respect that really... :(

Gackt 05-08-2005 05:43 AM

right im off for 10 mins

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:45 AM

i don't trust p2p either, there's a lot of dogy stuff out there
but, as long as u know what ur doing its not too bad

just send stuff over MSN or whatever

jaco jr 05-08-2005 05:45 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]I normally put personality aside when talking about musicians, but I must say, when the two are considered equal, that comes in, and Dave seems an absolute arsebandit. So James wins... :lol:

I don't download because my dad doesn't trust p2p on his computer. It is his computer, so I have to respect that really... :([/QUOTE]
im considering them equals
i think daves a bit more of a wanker
but theyre equally good guitarists
although i consider dave to be the better singer

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:45 AM

I don't get on with Slipknot, but I agree that Joey is a good drummer (though sloppy sometimes, and he *is* overrated ;)), and Corey has a quite pleasing scream, and pseudo rap voice, and the axework doesn't seem too bad. Just in the context of the entire band, and the music they make, I don't enjoy it.

When people cite Surfacing to be an amazing song, for example, it makes me cringe.

jaco jr 05-08-2005 05:47 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]I don't get on with Slipknot, but I agree that Joey is a good drummer (though sloppy sometimes, and he *is* overrated ;)), and Corey has a quite pleasing scream, and pseudo rap voice, and the axework doesn't seem too bad. Just in the context of the entire band, and the music they make, I don't enjoy it.

When people cite Surfacing to be an amazing song, for example, it makes me cringe.[/QUOTE]
a good drummer definately, but there are many much better than him, and really i think my drummer could come up with such lines
he is definately overrated
my faveourite slipknot song is vermilion
and they have like how many people in the band?
no wonder they have to play every fest going just to afford food each

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:48 AM

i'm not a big fan of the 'knot but i did quite like their last album, whatever its called

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:50 AM

I'm not bashing on Nu-Metal though. I like System (though they are a little lumped in with Nu-Metal), as well as Korn, and Limp Bizkit to an extent (their more rocky stuff... I don't like Durst. Without Durst, they would be an amazing band).

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:52 AM

SoaD are brilliant!
not too keen on Limp Bizkit, some of their stuff is ok, but most is rubbish imo

fatbandit 05-08-2005 05:57 AM

Now Primus... There's talent.

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 05:59 AM

i hate Brain's drumming though! he sucked 4ss

jaco jr 05-08-2005 05:59 AM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Now Primus... There's talent.[/QUOTE]
heres someone with taste

ElKapitan 05-08-2005 06:00 AM

Primu suck :thumb:


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