[QUOTE=ElKapitan]ok, one thing i don't understand about this 'war on terror' is why hasn't Bush of Blair targetted ETA or the IRA and gone to war with them or shot them in the streets like dogs?
i makes me truly sick![/QUOTE]
It's obvious; he says the war is against terrorism, but he only uses that as a coverup to invade Iraq and get oil. He doesn't do anything else because he gets no benefit from it, not to mention the economy might get even worse, and he's already done enough...

It's not that i don't understand, it's just that it's all moving fast :lol:

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]It's obvious; he says the war is against terrorism, but he only uses that as a coverup to invade Iraq and get oil. He doesn't do anything else because he gets no benefit from it, not to mention the economy might get even worse, and he's already done enough...[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]It's obvious; he says the war is against terrorism, but he only uses that as a coverup to invade Iraq and get oil. He doesn't do anything else because he gets no benefit from it, not to mention the economy might get even worse, and he's already done enough...[/QUOTE]
i know, but the fact that the people swallow this bulls[SIZE=2]hit[/SIZE] and don't question is truly sickening

Politics tend to bore me, I'll be back soon/in a while.




Gav for president in 2008!

[QUOTE=ElKapitan]i know, but the fact that the people swallow this bulls[SIZE=2]hit[/SIZE] and don't question is truly sickening[/QUOTE]

Like I said, it's not because they believe him, it's because they are too ignorant to vote on the "other" political party. People nowadays are voting for the party and NOT for the person actually running for it. This is the big flaw on demcocracy, but, just as the case with communism, it's actually men's fault.

Incredible how we can see the logic yet most people can't...

Who says the majority of Americans don't question it?


Odd fact: Bush has never won the popular vote in a presidential election.

He'll probably start saying that the Iraqis decided to 'give' him oil in thanks for invading and destroying their country.

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]Who says the majority of Americans don't question it?


Odd fact: Bush has never won the popular vote in a presidential election.[/QUOTE]
sadly, i'm more ignorant of the US election system than i'd like. do u have a Propotional Representation of First Past The Post system?!

and, quite frankly, not enough people question him, its a truly sad inditement of the modern society: "if it doesn't harm me i don't give a da[SIZE=2]mn[/SIZE]"

The stupid thing is that by invading Iraq for oil, he made OPEC mad, which only drove up gas prices.

Am i the only one that finds it incredibly sad that 70% of Britons don;t know what VE day is?

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]Who says the majority of Americans don't question it?


Odd fact: Bush has never won the popular vote in a presidential election.[/QUOTE]

Pardon my english, but what do you mean on that last bit?

[QUOTE=neal_672]Am i the only one that finds it incredibly sad that 70% of Britons don;t know what VE day is?[/QUOTE]
What does VE stand for? Pardon my english and lack of knowledge...

You think you guys have it bad on gas? Ours costs about twice as much as yours!

[QUOTE=neal_672]Am i the only one that finds it incredibly sad that 70% of Britons don;t know what VE day is?[/QUOTE]
i heard a rumour that a high proportion of Americans couldn't point out their own country on a map but that might just be utter rubbish

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]What does VE stand for? Pardon my english and lack of knowledge...[/QUOTE]
Victory in Europe day. its when we celibrate the end of the war

[QUOTE=ElKapitan]sadly, i'm more ignorant of the US election system than i'd like. do u have a Propotional Representation of First Past The Post system?!

and, quite frankly, not enough people don't question him, its a truly sad inditement of the modern society: "if it doesn't harm me i don't give a da[SIZE=2]mn[/SIZE]"[/QUOTE]
Say what?

We have what is called an electoral college. Each state gets a certain number of voters that is equal to the number of representatives in Congress. The people in each state vote, and whoever wins the popular vote within that state gets all of it's electoral college votes (or it may be by individual precincts, I'm not sure there).

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]What does VE stand for? Pardon my english and lack of knowledge...[/QUOTE]

I can forgive you for that one Radio in that it doesn;t affect your country at all :thumb:

Now I feel stupid, seeing as in spanish it's "Victoria en Europa", so the initials are the same.

Oh, my last post explained the other thing you asked about Jorge.

First Past The Post: whoever wins most votes in a certain area gets the seat
Proportional Representation: depending on how many votes u get, ur party is awarded a proportional amount of seats relating to the % of ur votes

the 1st one means that a certain party could get 30% of the country's votes but never gain a seat in parliament, the 2nd means that every vote actually counts

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]Who says the majority of Americans don't question it?


Odd fact: Bush has never won the popular vote in a presidential election.[/QUOTE]


"with 52 percent of the popular vote to Democratic candidate Senator John Kerry's 47 percent."

Source: [url]http://usinfo.state.gov/dhr/Archive/2004/Nov/03-311949.html[/url]

Just sayin'.

Paul: Thanks :).

Meh, he lost the popular against Gore. Kerry was an idiot though, campaigned like a dolt.

The elections here sucked...

There are three parties here; PNP (guys who want us to become a state), who had a past governor running again. The PIP party (wanting Independence), with the same guy they have had for years, and the PPD party (wanting us to stay the same), with... some guy who is nothing special.

Now, for you to understand the stupidity and ignorance here, you have to know that, no matter what party wins, it is practically a fact that we will STAY a colony.

So... The guy from the PNP party, who was full of corrupt, lost by .5%, to the guy from the PPD, who, like I sad, is NOTHING special, but most people (unless they are the ignornant people I describe) agree with me when I say that the guy on the PIP is the best leader. The others are miles further from his knowledge.

He was one of the guys who went to Vieques to try and stop all of the US experiments and such, which was harming many people on the island, and he got arrested for it. That's how determined he is.

GRRRR pic didn't work!?!!

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]Meh, he lost the popular against Gore. Kerry was an idiot though, campaigned like a dolt.[/QUOTE]

Kerry... well... he was still better in my eyes than Bush.

Looks like Tony Blair is gonna get voted bakc in here :upset:

there wasn't really much doubt was there?!

:lol: clasical thump :p im learning, but I WONT SLAP OR DOUBLE THUMP it...