[QUOTE=clearvision]Well the whole theory is based on multiplying stuff by the 5 points of the symbol, which isn't even a star...

What's this about national tool day?[/QUOTE]

Sept. 26th is international Tool day. Like, wrenches and stuff.

Someone on TDN made the point that Stars are actually perfect spheres. I don't think they'd go as far and use dots in it though.

If stars are perfect spheres.. then why multiply with 5?

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Sept. 26th is international Tool day. Like, wrenches and stuff.
[/QUOTE]

That would be humerous, but it would be the 26th and not the 25th so theory would be wrong :)

I think the dots could represent the stars. It may have been something to just throw us off. Maybe not.

Also, with the whole "multiplying the points" thing. Couldn't you multiply the 3 dots by the 5 dots as a whole, do the same wiith the 2 dots by the 5 as a whole, and the last dot would be added?

[QUOTE=clearvision]That would be humerous, but it would be the 26th and not the 25th so theory would be wrong :)[/QUOTE]
But the 25th is a Sunday. IT wouldn't be available, but it could be released. So by the time we can buy it, it would be the 26th, hence the "Tool Day".

Everything dosen't have to be perfect.

What a load of crap.

[QUOTE=clearvision]That would be humerous, but it would be the 26th and not the 25th so theory would be wrong :)[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure I'm not first to say this but it could be released for orders, or maybe have downloadbles on their site on the 25th, and then it could be in stores 26th. The only the reason the 26th was brought is because it's a Sunday, and albums aren't put in stores on Sundays, normally.

[QUOTE=Kage]What a load of crap.[/QUOTE]
Probably. I'm in a Nyquill daze right now. Da[SIZE=2]m[/SIZE]n colds!

[QUOTE=Kage]What a load of crap.[/QUOTE]


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I read over Blair's update again and it actually seems to me that that the dots and dashes could be the name of the recording process, and not a date or anything. He said it was a new way or something, and maybe that Stittett word or whatever is the name. Meh, just a thought.

I'm not going to shoot for anything until something official is announced. I'm just going to hope that the 26th is true, because it'd be nice, and I like the Tool day idea.

Didn't we also find out that Stittett could also be decoded as Stimem?

Oh how the mighty will fall when it does get released on the 26th.


(hopefully)

Other points of arguments of the pessemistic nature...

#1 _ / _ _ / _ _

This would mean the date is 9/25/05 the proper american way, though the 05 isn't counted...

#2 dd/mm/yy is the british way of writing dates, why would Blair use this?

#3 Why divide up the sections into ***-** and --*-- ...why not ***-** , **--* and *-- whih seems more logical to me, or maybe other permutations?

#4 "This adds up to the 25th, the day of the last quarters of the moon, but Sundays are generally not days for a CD to be released. "

Why even mention this, it is clear the 1 dot needs to be accounted for therefore the date cannot be the 25th

#5 If the date is considered to be the 26th. The other numebrs of dots (3 and 2) are multiplied by 5, why is the 1 dot not multiplied by 5? making the date the 31st, (again not a CD release date)

#6 "Blair also affirmed this date, and added he could not make the information obvious at all to his fans, therefore he made it [b]almost impossible[/b]"

Almost? I see no logic in working this out, therefore Blair has made it slightly more difficult than 'almost impossible'

Please thread, think about this. Are there any good, logical arguments supporting this date except for national tool day?

[QUOTE=clearvision]That would be humerous, but it would be the 26th and not the 25th so theory would be wrong :)[/QUOTE]
This adds up to the 25th, the day of the last quarters of the moon, but Sundays are generally not days for a CD to be released.
Therefore the line, which is one by one persay, would simply be 1 and when added to the others would be 26, Monday.

So, did Blair confirm that this( •••-••--•-- ) is the date?

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Oh how the mighty will fall when it does get released on the 26th.


(hopefully)[/QUOTE]

I hope for you to be correct..(or incorrect if the release date is sooner)

[QUOTE=clearvision]Other points of arguments of the pessemistic nature...

#1 _ / _ _ / _ _

This would mean the date is 9/25/05 the proper american way, though the 05 isn't counted...

#2 dd/mm/yy is the british way of writing dates, why would Blair use this?

#3 Why divide up the sections into ***-** and --*-- ...why not ***-** , **--* and *-- whih seems more logical to me, or maybe other permutations?

#4 "This adds up to the 25th, the day of the last quarters of the moon, but Sundays are generally not days for a CD to be released. "

Why even mention this, it is clear the 1 dot needs to be accounted for therefore the date cannot be the 25th

#5 If the date is considered to be the 26th. The other numebrs of dots (3 and 2) are multiplied by 5, why is the 1 dot not multiplied by 5? making the date the 31st, (again not a CD release date)

#6 "Blair also affirmed this date, and added he could not make the information obvious at all to his fans, therefore he made it [b]almost impossible[/b]"

Almost? I see no logic in working this out, therefore Blair has made it slightly more difficult than 'almost impossible'

Please thread, think about this. Are there any good, logical arguments supporting this date except for national tool day?[/QUOTE]

You're taking this way to far. I haven't seen one person here say it was true. Everyone just hopes it is. You seem to be arguing with yourself.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Oh how the mighty will fall when it does get released on the 26th.


(hopefully)[/QUOTE]

Seriously though, if it does, will the first thing on your mind be 'time to take the piss outta rob and ben', or 'WOW! TOOOOOOOOOOOL!'

/headbangs

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]You're taking this way to far. I haven't seen one person here say it was true. Everyone just hopes it is. You seem to be arguing with yourself.[/QUOTE]


Uh.. Plenty of you seem to be talking like it's gospel

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]You're taking this way to far. I haven't seen one person here say it was true. Everyone just hopes it is. You seem to be arguing with yourself.[/QUOTE]

But it just seems stupid to cling on to this date.

I'm going to say it will be 08/08/05

Because the numbers are more round, and i like them that way.

So, did Blair confirm that this( •••-••--•-- ) is the release date?

nothings perfect. who knows what were supposed to do with the info. but this is the only like semi-believable information we've received in months. who the hell cares if its not true. oh well, well just have to wait longer, or hopefully shorterrrr, but if it is true, then thats amazing. might as well keep our hopes up, if they crash on us, then when the album actually comes out itll be like incredible. i mean it has been almost a year since maynard ended touring with apc...and 11 to 12 song frames had already been made by the rest of the band... i mean i think the time is coming soon.

All that aside, it is a bit skeptical. It would be cool, but it's just not practical.

I just hope this isn't another Teleincision.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Seriously though, if it does, will the first thing on your mind be 'time to take the piss outta rob and ben', or 'WOW! TOOOOOOOOOOOL!'

/headbangs[/QUOTE]

Listen to it gow WOW TOOLx257295796359256235235235

Then go Oh how the mighty have fallen so far.

Then bask in the greatness of this thread and so much things to talk about then wait for noobs to come in and sa so when is the new tool album coming out?

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Uh.. Plenty of you seem to be talking like it's gospel[/QUOTE]
I guess I just really want it to be true.

[QUOTE=ThirteenthStep]nothings perfect. who knows what were supposed to do with the info. but this is the only like semi-believable information we've received in months. who the hell cares if its not true. oh well, well just have to wait longer, or hopefully shorterrrr, but if it is true, then thats amazing. might as well keep our hopes up, if they crash on us, then when the album actually comes out itll be like incredible. i mean it has been almost a year since maynard ended touring with apc...and 11 to 12 song frames had already been made by the rest of the band... i mean i think the time is coming soon.[/QUOTE]
I always find myself thinking they will come out with a 2 disc this time...

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I guess I just really want it to be true.[/QUOTE]

Don't we all, well. I'd love for that to be the date. Quite frankly i would behead Blair if the message was meant to be decoded in that way.

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I always find myself thiking they will come out with a 2 disc this time...[/QUOTE]

that would be amazzing

I would kill for the release date to be september 26.. But that explanation is just too stupid for me to accept it.. And if it is true, I just lost alot of respect for blair

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Listen to it gow WOW TOOLx257295796359256235235235

Then go Oh how the mighty have fallen so far.

Then bask in the greatness of this thread and so much things to talk about then wait for noobs to come in and sa so when is the new tool album coming out?[/QUOTE]

About that, I was wondering (unrealistically), that we change the thread name when that time comes around to avoid n00bs for a while, so we can have a proper conversation on it.

Though that defeats the purpose of an official thread I know

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I guess I just really want it to be true.


I always find myself thinking they will come out with a 2 disc this time...[/QUOTE]
I've been thinking the same thing. One disc "Light", one disc "Dark".

Although, I really don't like the whole "2 disc" thing. I think with Tool, we won't be let down. But for some reason, the 2 disc's kinda makes it less attractive. Like it has too much baggage, and would be better off as one Cd, with less songs.

[QUOTE=Dude3]I've been thinking the same thing. One disc "Light", one disc "Dark".

Although, I really don't like the whole "2 disc" thing. I think with Tool, we won't be let down. But for some reason, the 2 disc's kinda makes it less attractive. Like it has too much baggage, and would be better off as one Cd, with less songs.[/QUOTE]

Baaaad idea. I love the dynamics from a single album, not seperating them onto two disks. Thats the mistake Opeth and Foo Fighters have made so far. (and in those cases, the light side owns the heavy)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Baaaad idea. I love the dynamics from a single album, not seperating them onto two disks. Thats the mistake Opeth and Foo Fighters have made so far. (and in those cases, the light side owns the heavy)[/QUOTE]
I agree. Its a bad trend. IF they have that many "good" songs, just save them.

[QUOTE=Dude3]I've been thinking the same thing. One disc "Light", one disc "Dark".

Although, I really don't like the whole "2 disc" thing. I think with Tool, we won't be let down. But for some reason, the 2 disc's kinda makes it less attractive. Like it has too much baggage, and would be better off as one Cd, with less songs.[/QUOTE]

That would be cool if it were two discs, but if it is just one, i hope they utilize every minute of it, just like Lateralus.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Baaaad idea. I love the dynamics from a single album, not seperating them onto two disks. Thats the mistake Opeth and Foo Fighters have made so far. (and in those cases, the light side owns the heavy)[/QUOTE]

i agreee.


uhh just bringing up discussion.
what do you guys thinkis better, Pu**** on Ænima or Pu**** on Salival?
I'm thinking Salival...

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]About that, I was wondering (unrealistically), that we change the thread name when that time comes around to avoid n00bs for a while, so we can have a proper conversation on it.

Though that defeats the purpose of an official thread I know[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a plan.

[QUOTE=Dude3]I agree. Its a bad trend. IF they have that many "good" songs, just save them.[/QUOTE]

Or do a Smashing Pumpkins style release of 2 disks of 1 album

Ironic that 1979 played last, and now its Sober on my playlist

I'm hoping for just a regular, single disc.

With one hell of a climax at the end :)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Baaaad idea. I love the dynamics from a single album, not seperating them onto two disks. Thats the mistake Opeth and Foo Fighters have made so far. (and in those cases, the light side owns the heavy)[/QUOTE]

123'd to hell and back.

I think opeth could have done with a single album...though i love ****ation so much.

With the foo's the double album was a good idea, they were following up one by one, so having a hard album suits their style, they just didn't pull it off.
The light side is great though. Though not a patch on their older stuff...

Double discs can work, The fragile, The Wall, The White Album.

Though my main problem with this is this light and dark thing. We only have this bundled in with the release date, if one is void, chances are the other is too :)

I don't wanna be a fag but [b]'Think for yourself, question authority'[/b]

[QUOTE=Dude3]I'm hoping for just a regular, single disc.

With one hell of a climax at the end :)[/QUOTE]


I know Madey will be providing her own climax.


/weak

Me, as well....and save the other, unused tracks for another album :thumb:

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I know Madey will be providing her own climax.


/weak[/QUOTE]

Quoted before you have time to realise how lame that was and delete :p