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Thor 05-28-2005 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I wish you the best of luck, I will have to post up a copy of my band playing it sometime!

Are you going for all real instruments, or are parts midi?[/QUOTE]
They are all going to be real, no fake crap.

ATM 05-28-2005 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Wow, i jjsut got back from days 2 of my bjneg dirnksing fest. It was awesom,ew,.!![/QUOTE]

:lol:

/pokes Joe with a stick

Illmatic 05-28-2005 06:38 PM

Uh-oh, Joe's on his way to another banning.

Also, I take back anything bad I've said about The Roots. Talk about a band growing on you.

Also, refl at ATM...we said basically the same thing in the The Jeffersons thread.

ATM 05-28-2005 06:47 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Uh-oh, Joe's on his way to another banning.

Also, I take back anything bad I've said about The Roots. Talk about a band growing on you.

Also, refl at ATM...we said basically the same thing in the The Jeffersons thread.[/QUOTE]

Which album is changing your mind?

And regarding The Jeffersons, it's just the truth ;)

Illmatic 05-28-2005 07:06 PM

I just started re-listening to Phrenology and Things Fall Apart.

Also, I listened to a few tracks of The Tipping Point at a friend's house and those were pretty d[size=2]amn good[/size].

Bartender 05-28-2005 07:44 PM

Anyone here seen Gridlock'd? I just watched it again. The performance at the end is really pretty good.

lunch998 05-28-2005 07:44 PM

Speeking of things that are really pretty good, The Kids Are Alright is a fantastic Dvd.

ATM 05-28-2005 07:49 PM

Did you guys download the Kings of Convenience I posted?

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8047977&postcount=1726[/url]

I promise you will like it.

Riva 05-28-2005 07:50 PM

**** man, I just saw one of the reasons why investigative journalists need to die. I'm serious. I would happily watch one of the people they harass pull out a gun and shoot the bastards. The reason?

They were doing an expose on the Jehovah's Witnesses. Basically, they claimed every single JW was either a child molester, or had been abused by a child molester. They also twisted pretty much every single word that one of the Elders said, to make him look like a monster. For example (Note: This same show did a piece on the evil of gays about 2 weeks ago):

Reporter: "You said he was a homosexual".
Elder: "No, I said by being molested, he had been part of a homosexual act".
Reporter: "Being homosexual isn't a bad thing".
Elder: "For other people, but our religion doesn't allow it."
Reporter: "It wasn't a homosexual act anyway, it was molestation. He was being molested."
Elder: "But I am not claiming he is a homosexual, I am stating he was part of a homosexual act. Therefore, he needs to be cleansed to come back to the congregation."
Reporter: "Other [i]mainstream[/i] religions allow homosexuality".

The man's response was then cut off, so that the obvious response of "name one mainstream religion that allows it" wasn't aired. Instead we get the reporter stating by himself, "Obviously, the Jehovah's Witness church is corrupt, as they willingly allow children to be molested."

A bit later, we had this delightful monologue by the reporter.

"The 60, 000 Jehovah's in Australia believe they are a seperate people. They don't vote, don't celebrate birthdays or Christmas, aren't allowed to enter military service, and can only marry within the church. Also, unlike mainstream religions, the Jehovah's Witnesses believe they are the only true faith..."

What. The. ****...

Has this reporter ever heard of the Crusades? As far as I know, it was because two [i]mainstream[/i] religions believed they were the only true faith. And most religions, e.g Catholicism don't allow people to marry outside the faith, and plenty of other [i]mainstream[/i] religions don't celebrate Christmas.
This reporter needs to die.

lunch998 05-28-2005 07:52 PM

Reporters everywhere are crap it seems. In America journalism is terrible.

Illmatic 05-28-2005 07:55 PM

Well, duh, reporters are fags.

"We all learn to write by the second grade. Most of us move on to more advanced professions" -- Bobby Knight, on journalists

Bartender 05-28-2005 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]*reporter story*[/QUOTE]

Are you sure it wasn't a joke?

If so, then complain or something. Get the guy's email address (home address if you can manage it), and ask him about it, it sounds like he has problems.

Riva 05-28-2005 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Are you sure it wasn't a joke?

If so, then complain or something. Get the guy's email address (home address if you can manage it), and ask him about it, it sounds like he has problems.[/QUOTE]

Trust me, this wasn't a joke. It's from the same kind of top grade reporting that produced: "Smoking kills, but eating ground tobacco saves lives", and "Homosexuality is evil, and the reason Australia is undergoing an AIDS crisis".

lunch998 05-28-2005 08:08 PM

Feed them to the snakes.

Kage 05-28-2005 08:09 PM

What the hell station was this on?

Illmatic 05-28-2005 08:09 PM

Wow, that's even worse than American news reporting.

Riva 05-28-2005 08:09 PM

The Nine Network in Australia.

Cain 05-28-2005 08:10 PM

In America lots of things are terrible.

The great irony of America is this: we want the kick-*** social services that they get in Europe for free, like Medicare, social security, welfare, bankruptcy services, and disability pensions without having to pay heavy amounts of taxes. Let's be honest here: the BIGGEST division between the liberals and the conservatives is this issue of taxes. I have a feeling far less people would give a **** about this whole abortion thing (and ESPECIALLY stem cell research) if the parties didn't use it as a very public screen for the real issue that the parties are at loggerheads over, which is the paying of taxes.

The root of this? The way our public school system teaches us about the American Revolution. I'm convinced that it plants some sort of subliminal stigma in our heads. In the Northeast, and pretty much everywhere else I'm sure, the issues surrounding the American Revolution are dumbed down to essentially this: "The evil King wanted to tax the American people without asking them if it was all right. The Americans didn't WANT to pay taxes. So they rose up in revolution against the Evil King George III to fight for their right to not pay taxes."

Do Americans even realize what taxes do? The way agencies such as the IRS are labeled in the media are as heartless machines taking homes away from jobless 80-year-olds, so the fact that taxes are responsible for the availibility of SO MANY COMFORTS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED gets lost. And the reason our systems like Social Security are so ****ed up is because the American people don't want to pay enough taxes, and so there simply isn't enough money to fund those things. And then we bitch and moan about how everything in America is all ****ed up. It's ridiculous, because we're so spoiled and yet because of that, every social service is paradoxically substandard compared to the entire rest of the civilized world. The government is NOT a business and so requires donations, and when Americans don't want to donate, we get bull**** like Bush trying to privatise Social Security. Liberals cry foul when that issue comes up on the agenda, but if you think about it, how many other choices does Bush have when he's faced with such an idiotic, stubborn populace and he has enough self-preservation instinct to not want to be impeached?

The way the Civil War is taught to us, on the other hand, varies quite widely throughout the country. In the Northeast, the Civil War happened because of slavery, and is seen as a proactive approach on the part of the Union to ending it. In the South, it happened because of states rights, and is seen as a proactive approach on the part of the Confederacy to preserve them. This enhances the basic division between the two groups of taxpayers by bringing the issues of race, religion, and rights into the question, and so we also have our national bitterness bred into our bones by the fifth grade. If we could have a progressive attitude without all these retarded and divisive ways of viewing our past I'd think we'd be a lot better off. Unfortunately a reliance on common sense is not the prideful American's strongest suit. He'd rather let his belief about what's true take the wheel more often than the facts about what's true.

Kage 05-28-2005 08:10 PM

No need to degrade journalism over it though. This is pretty low grade sh[color=white]it[/color] and nothing to judge an entire field on.

lunch998 05-28-2005 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Wow, that's even worse than American news reporting.[/QUOTE]

Probably still better than Fox News.

Illmatic 05-28-2005 08:12 PM

That may be true. However, I've never watched FOX News to find out, nor would I want to.

Riva 05-28-2005 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]big text[/QUOTE]

Agreed, on the fact that the same kind of thing happens in Australia these days. We used to be a British society, so we had all the benefits of Europe, in a much more pleasant environment, and with a completely industrious, well-cared for workforce. Then U.S. ideals like "not working your best" and "complaining about taxes" invaded, and we are slowly being turned into a North American clone. It's depressing, and I don't blame the people in North America for it.

Cain 05-28-2005 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Agreed, on the fact that the same kind of thing happens in Australia these days. We used to be a British society, so we had all the benefits of Europe, in a much more pleasant environment, and with a completely industrious, well-cared for workforce. Then U.S. ideals like "not working your best" and "complaining about taxes" invaded, and we are slowly being turned into a North American clone. It's depressing, and I don't blame the people in North America for it.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the seperatist movements in Australia that wanted to disavow any association with the U.K. and the British Empire led to an invasion of that same "colonialist" mentality, perhaps? I'm not very informed about that so I may not know.

Thor 05-28-2005 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]That may be true. However, I've never watched FOX News to find out, nor would I want to.[/QUOTE]
FOX news is not news, it is a bunch of biased ****.

RiceMonster 05-28-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]FOX news is not news, it is a bunch of biased ****.[/QUOTE]
Quoted for truth.

RCA 05-28-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Cain] [b][i]The government is NOT a business and so requires donations, and when Americans don't want to donate, we get bullsh[i]i[/i]t like Bush trying to privatise Social Security.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]

That right there is exactly what a good portion of Americans need to understand (minus the dumbf[i]u[/i]ck Bush part, I was focusing on the gov't point). That was best part of your post right there for me.

Riva 05-28-2005 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Maybe the seperatist movements in Australia that wanted to disavow any association with the U.K. and the British Empire led to an invasion of that same "colonialist" mentality, perhaps? I'm not very informed about that so I may not know.[/QUOTE]

Well, basically, most of Australia was actually penal colonies/ free colonies, which then banded into 5 states, before joining in the Federation Of Australia in 1901. The people who moved here from the U.K. were middle to upper class people who wanted to be British in a new land of opportunity. They was never a drive to distinguish themselves from the "foul opressors", such as the North American colonists changing the spelling of words, and changing the size of various standards. E.g. The U.S. gallon is something like 1.25 of the English gallon.

At the risk of sounding pompous, my nation never was retarded enough to have a war, before going to the bargaining table. We actually realised the outcome was the same, so we just went straight to the treaty.

Cain 05-28-2005 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]That right there is exactly what a good portion of Americans need to understand (minus the dumbf[i]u[/i]ck Bush part, I was focusing on the gov't point). That was best part of your post right there for me.[/QUOTE]

I take it you disagree with me on the Bush part? Are you a supporter? I apologize for any potential offense.

Kingofdudes 05-28-2005 08:27 PM

Fox News: Mxicans love to hate it

Thor 05-28-2005 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]Quoted for truth.[/QUOTE]
**** straight it is. I don't bother to watch the news on TV anymore. It's all lame.


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