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i am the robots 12-26-2007 04:13 PM

:lol: that breakdown is broing as hell.

A good breakdown would be like [I]Dance On Your Grave[/I] by Rifles At Recess, something dancy and melodic where you barely notice the chuggas.

Valhall 12-26-2007 04:25 PM

Massively obvious breakdowns are fun. They're just overused.

Wait, did you just say "melodic" referring to a breakdown? :lol:

AA-12 12-26-2007 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15742085]broing as hell.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LemonChiffon"]. . .[/COLOR][/SIZE]

masscows 12-26-2007 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Valhall;15742182]Wait, did you just say "melodic" referring to a breakdown? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Did you just laugh at the prospect of a melodic breakdown? :lol:

Valhall 12-26-2007 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;15742204]Did you just laugh at the prospect of a melodic breakdown? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Did you just deny that breakdowns aren't supposed to be melodic? :lol:

masscows 12-26-2007 04:33 PM

You're dumb as hell if you think breakdowns are always "chug chug", I remember you saying Beneath the Massacre doesn't have breakdowns! :lol:

But seriously, there are breakdowns in all kinds of music. A breakdown is a break from the rest of the musical piece, kind of like a bridge. It just so happens that metalcore bands tend to use chug chug breakdowns alot because they think it's brutal. It's not the only type of breakdown.

Beneath the Massacre averages like 3 breakdowns per song.

repcak 12-26-2007 04:34 PM

what is the main difference between metalcore and hardcore?!

sorry, but i just don't like -core genres in general except of noisecore and grindcore

Tyler 12-26-2007 04:35 PM

metalcore is metal and hardcore and hardcore is just hardcore?

masscows 12-26-2007 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=repcak;15742241]what is the main difference between metalcore and hardcore?![/QUOTE]

Hardcore is basically just punk but more abrasive, metalcore can either be hardcore-influenced metal or metal-influenced hardcore.

i am the robots 12-26-2007 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hunter;15742187][SIZE="1"][COLOR="LemonChiffon"]. . .[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

LOL epic typo

repcak 12-26-2007 04:37 PM

ah ok... so metalcore is good and hardcore is bad

Valhall 12-26-2007 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;15742235]
But seriously, there are breakdowns in all kinds of music. A breakdown is a break from the rest of the musical piece, kind of like a bridge. It just so happens that metalcore bands tend to use chug chug breakdowns alot because they think it's brutal. It's not the only type of breakdown.
.[/QUOTE]

I'm aware of this. However, the concept and idea of a breakdown has changed with certain genres; I was referring to the typical metal breakdown employed in recent years, and that those kinds of breakdowns aren't supposed to be melodic.

repcak: Both metalcore and hardcore are good when done well.

Tyler 12-26-2007 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Valhall;15742274]I'm aware of this. However, the concept and idea of a breakdown has changed with certain genres; I was referring to the typical metal breakdown employed in recent years, and that those kinds of breakdowns aren't supposed to be melodic.

repcak: Both metalcore and hardcore are good when done well.[/QUOTE]

how arent they supposed to be melodic. what the **** are you talking about

i am the robots 12-26-2007 04:40 PM

Yeah, seriously. Most of the best breakdowns are the melodic ones, why the hell do you think I love Through The Eyes Of The Dead so much?
[QUOTE=repcak;15742270]ah ok... so metalcore is good and hardcore is bad[/QUOTE]

Not at all. :lol:

I'd much rather listen to an average hardcore band than an average metalcore band tbh.

Valhall 12-26-2007 04:41 PM

Brutal usually/=/ melodic. Not that difficult of a concept.

Notice I said usually, though.

AA-12 12-26-2007 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15742256]LOL epic typo[/QUOTE]

broic typo

Tyler 12-26-2007 04:41 PM

That's not true at all. If anything you'd want a bridge to have melody.

i am the robots 12-26-2007 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Valhall;15742295]Brutal usually/=/ melodic. Not that difficult of a concept.

Notice I said usually, though.[/QUOTE]

Notice I'm saying you need to stop talking out of your a[font=verdana]ss[/font]?

repcak 12-26-2007 04:42 PM

yeah, maybe, but i was never a fan of hardcore.

the only band i really liked was A Perfect Murder - they were great!
all other Hardcore/Metalcore stuff i got from Metalblaze was just boring... nothing special.

masscows 12-26-2007 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=repcak;15742270]ah ok... so metalcore is good and hardcore is bad[/QUOTE]

I'd say there are alot more bad metalcore bands than bad hardcore bands. I don't listen to either genre much though.

i am the robots 12-26-2007 04:43 PM

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Valhall 12-26-2007 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15742301]That's not true at all. If anything you'd want a bridge to have melody.[/QUOTE]

In general, yes. What I'm saying is, If you're a deathcore band and want a brutal breakdown section, you usually don't try to employ melody....you try to employ brutality with simple, heavy riffing.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying a band has to look at what they are trying to accomplish with the section.

masscows 12-26-2007 04:45 PM

TTEOTD has alot of melodic breakdowns that are ****ing brutal as hell.

Valhall 12-26-2007 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Valhall;15742327]I'm not saying it can't be done.[/QUOTE]
...

masscows 12-26-2007 04:48 PM

you know what

i am the robots 12-26-2007 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;15742339]TTEOTD has alot of melodic breakdowns that are ****ing brutal as hell.[/QUOTE]

YOU
CAN'T
SAVE HER

Tyler 12-26-2007 08:47 PM

[QUOTE]MetalKult.com has just posted six MP3 audio files from a 1988 DEATH rehearsal.

In January 1988, the members of DEATH convened in Orlando, Florida, to rehearse six of the songs that would eventually wind up on the band’s second and highly influential album, "Leprosy".

The tracks captured during that rehearsal are as follows:

01. Left to Die
02. Open Casket
03. Pull the Plug
04. Choke on It
05. Born Dead
06. Forgotten Past

The DEATH lineup at the time included guitarist/vocalist Chuck Schuldiner, guitarist Rick Rozz, bassist Terry Butler and drummer Bill Andrews.

Go to MetalKult.com to download these mp3s.[/QUOTE]

^^^

Oh und.

[QUOTE]DEATH's classic 1995 album "Symbolic" will be reissued in March 2008 via Roadrunner Records. The remastered LP will include the original album tracks plus several previously unreleased, ultra-rare, mostly instrumental demo recordings that were completed in early 1994 with the lineup of Chuck Schuldiner (guitar), Gene Hoglan (drums) and Steve DiGiorgio (bass). The package will also come with brand new liner notes written by longtime metal journalist Don Kaye.[/QUOTE]

LifeInABox 12-26-2007 09:39 PM

How did Roadrunner get ahold of that?

Deth 12-26-2007 09:42 PM

Probably helps that they released it originally.

Tyler 12-26-2007 09:43 PM

Roadrunner wasn't always horrible.

Invicta_Veritas 12-26-2007 09:52 PM

[quote=Cocaine;15743682]Roadrunner wasn't always horrible.[/quote]

This.

LifeInABox 12-26-2007 10:00 PM

[QUOTE=Deth;15743675]Probably helps that they released it originally.[/QUOTE]

Oh gee, really?

That's what I asked about.

Wrong choice, Tyler :(

rattlehead42147 12-26-2007 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15743476]^^^

Oh und.[/QUOTE]
sounds awesome, except i couldn't see myself buying those since i already own both.

TTEOVD 12-26-2007 11:49 PM

[QUOTE=Hbp;15743667]How did Roadrunner get ahold of that?[/QUOTE]

OH MY LAWDS

publicastration 12-27-2007 12:32 AM

[QUOTE=masscows;15741847]Their new vocalist sucks horribly though. He's worse than DiSalvo by sooo much.[/QUOTE]

wtf no he isn't

Toaster 12-27-2007 01:31 AM

Haven't found any new DM worth listening to for months

Gone back to old Cryptopsy and Immolation.

WS-era Disalvo rapes the 30 mile scream noob.

Tyler 12-27-2007 01:32 AM

The music on WS-era Cryptopsy is worse than the vocals.

TTEOVD 12-27-2007 01:33 AM

[QUOTE=Toaster;15744942]Haven't found any new DM worth listening to for months

Gone back to old Cryptopsy and Immolation.

WS-era Disalvo rapes the 30 mile scream noob.[/QUOTE]

new nunslaughter

rattlehead42147 12-27-2007 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=Toaster;15744942]Haven't found any new DM worth listening to for months[/QUOTE]
NemesisDivina got me into Deceased, he was raving about them for a while, they are worth the praise. It's deathrash though.

C.O.A. 12-27-2007 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=rattlehead42147;15746696]NemesisDivina got me into Deceased, he was raving about them for a while, they are worth the praise. It's deathrash though.[/QUOTE]

\m/

Deceased is good sh[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]t.


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