wtf Danny Bonaduci (sp?) is a badass. He was on some reality TV award show and some fgt from Survivor jumped on him and he threw him on the ground and the dude had to be rushed to the hospital.

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What show is he from? I try to avoid reality television.

The Partridge Family

Pate: At our apartment we had a sign on our door saying "I don't want your ****ing magazines." After we opened the doors a few too many times. Mind, we're assholes and never invited the folk in, but having to answer the door was annoying enough.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15369048]wtf Danny Bonaduci (sp?) is a badass. He was on some reality TV award show and some fgt from Survivor jumped on him and he threw him on the ground and the dude had to be rushed to the hospital.

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That's called "years of pent up frustration." It happens to dweebs in high school a lot. Danny's just experiencing what we adults know as "puberty."

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15369048]wtf Danny Bonaduci (sp?) is a badass. He was on some reality TV award show and some fgt from Survivor jumped on him and he threw him on the ground and the dude had to be rushed to the hospital.

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I wish he still had his show. He just did steroids, yelled at his wife and did stupid, illegal stuff.

You mean an adult willingly chose that as his/her screen name?

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15369068]You mean an adult willingly chose that as his/her screen name?[/QUOTE]

It's an homage to my badass tatto sucka, back up pho' youse gitz knocked back.

he slept in a dumpster for like 2 months

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;15369039]holy ****. It's been sunny all day then all the sudden someone poured the pacific ocean on my head.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to Western Washington.

[QUOTE=Apocalypticon;15369074]he slept in a dumpster for like 2 months[/QUOTE]

who did? Bonnaducci?

[QUOTE=Angmar;15369082]Welcome to Western Washington.[/QUOTE]

yeah, it sucks. the last month was sweet and i only walked in the rain like 3 times. I've surpassed that in the past week. :-/

np: DJ Shadow

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15369062]Pate: At our apartment we had a sign on our door saying "I don't want your ****ing magazines." After we opened the doors a few too many times. Mind, we're spatulas and never invited the folk in, but having to answer the door was annoying enough.[/QUOTE]

Roffle. I don't mind if they say up front, so I can shoot their asses down. But this gay...ack

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=L8oHp73V5To[/url]

my teacher made us watch this around 20 times today while he did a semiotic analysis of it. he's convinced the commercial was shot as reinforcement to white superiority over the blacks.

i was all wtf, over-analyze much?

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15369123][url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=L8oHp73V5To[/url]

my teacher made us watch this around 20 times today while he did a semiotic analysis of it. he's convinced the commercial was shot as reinforcement to white superiority over the blacks.

i was all wtf, over-analyze much?[/QUOTE]

what the hell is there to analyze? all I can think of is "How is it that Madonna is like, old, and still so hot?"

I would giver 'er the shaft and brag about it, no doubt about it man.

[QUOTE=OrcDemon666;15369138]what the hell is there to analyze? all I can think of is "How is it that Madonna is like, old, and still so hot?"

I would giver 'er the shaft and brag about it, no doubt about it man.[/QUOTE]

There's enough to do a semiotic analysis, trust me. THere's a shot where she's walking down the street with the word STOP paved on it. As she hits a certain point, she stops and the S is covered, making it say Top.

There's just issues of dominance; her wallet chain is on the left side of her jeans, she starts off by looking to the left, etc. Left is considered the 'dominant' side.

Then there's the issue of a scrolling backdrop going behind her and another past Missy. Missy's is the back of the thing while hers is the front.

I see issues of dominance, both in the lyrics and in how the commercial was shot, but I have no idea where the race issue comes in. He said using race made it a stronger argument, but I argue that a more tenacious argument is not necessarily a stronger one.

etc.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15369123][url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=L8oHp73V5To[/url]

my teacher made us watch this around 20 times today while he did a semiotic analysis of it. he's convinced the commercial was shot as reinforcement to white superiority over the blacks.

i was all wtf, over-analyze much?[/QUOTE]

what was his reasoning?

to me it seems to be glorifying black culture.

note: my sound is off

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15369158]what was his reasoning?

to me it seems to be glorifying black culture.

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His reasoning was how the dominance in the video exhibits racial dominance, while I argued that it's almost a concession on Missy's part due to Madonna's hierarchical status in the music industry.

Semiotic analysis is kind of ridiculous tbqh.

This kind of reminds me of the PMRC- how they'd LOOK for "undesireable subject matter" and they'd find it, whether it was in the song intentionally or not. I agree with the your standpoint though... the issues of "dominance" and the irellavant point of race. If anything is "dominant" it's Hip-Hop music. I don't remember Madonna being so R&B based... that song kinda reminded me of Black Eyed Peas type stuff... don't care for it too much.

EDIT: I agree with the "heirarchy" statement about Madona's staus vs. Missy's.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15369165]His reasoning was how the dominance in the video exhibits racial dominance, while I argued that it's almost a concession on Missy's part due to Madonna's hierarchical status in the music industry.

Semiotic analysis is kind of ridiculous tbqh.[/QUOTE]

Madonna is the Michael Jackson of Pop for women.

But tbh the very culturally black dancing is more a slap in the face to white dancing than anything so I think you could make a strong argument for the glorification of culture there...and it's not like it was a bunch of white guys break dancing.

[QUOTE=OrcDemon666;15369180]This kind of reminds me of the PMRC- how they'd LOOK for "undesireable subject matter" and they'd find it, whether it was in the song intentionally or not. I agree with the your standpoint though... the issues of "dominance" and the irellavant point of race. If anything is "dominant" it's Hip-Hop music. I don't remember Madonna being so R&B based... that song kinda reminded me of Black Eyed Peas type stuff... don't care for it too much.[/QUOTE]
No no you're missing the point, it has nothing to do with her sound. It has to do with the imagery and subliminal implications. I wont argue that they're there but I'll argue their relevance.

I'm a firm believer that most racial disharmony is perpetuated by any over-analysis that unearths what may not have actually been there.

When someone asked him why Missy would knowingly sign onto such a thing, someone was like "maybe she's happy about seeing colours on TV". I was like, wtf, is this the ****ing 50s?

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I'm a firm believer that most racial disharmony is perpetuated by any over-analysis that unearths what may not have actually been there.

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I agree whole-heartedly with that statement. I don't think I missed the point, I just sort of changed my stance of discussion in a poor manner.

I think the "dominance" exhibited could easily be meant to portray Gap as being a dominant brand.

It is after all, an advertisement.

[QUOTE=Luc214;15369255]I think the "dominance" exhibited could easily be meant to portray Gap as being a dominant brand.

It is after all, an advertisement.[/QUOTE]

I see Missy conceding to her elder, who is after all a more legacy oriented artist. I see Madonna trying to re-enter the public eye after American Life ended up sucking. Then there's the separation between Madonna/Missy fans and 'em being brought togeva.

I think there's no such thing as racism.

That should be renamed idiotic analysis.

I read a thing in Scientific American that said there was no such thing as race.

[QUOTE]That should be renamed idiotic analysis.[/QUOTE]

It has some perks in helping you analyze certain things but sometimes it gets taken way, way, way too far.

We should make a party.

Will there be Smores?

Yes, but instead of graham crackers we use tortillas.