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Ghoul Hustler 03-19-2008 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16124706]I don't think they understand that we know their "naturalism" shtick is a way to increase record sales.[/QUOTE]

No kidding.

Txus 03-19-2008 12:11 PM

Book of Black Earth rules.

sweboy 03-19-2008 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16124761]You're right. All black metal is a gimmick. All death metal is a gimmick. Everything in music is a gimmick.

That's completely serious too.[/QUOTE]

This is very much not true. There are lots of people who make music which is completely genuine and honest.

Ghoul Hustler 03-19-2008 12:19 PM

Pretty much all music is a gimmick though. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

gmoneyguy 03-19-2008 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=Ghoul Hustler;16126458]Pretty much all music is a gimmick though. It's not necessarily a bad thing.[/QUOTE]

Conveying an ideal is pretty much the basis of any music, so you are correct there.

Nostalgia 03-19-2008 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=sweboy;16126443]This is very much not true. There are lots of people who make music which is completely genuine and honest.[/QUOTE]

Well no ****. When I said "music" I mean mainly in metal... since we all know metal is the only true form of music.

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 03-19-2008 01:45 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16124645]In an interview with WITTR

[I][B]You have been labelled somewhat as “hippies” and some might say that playing black metal and those sorts of liberal earth loving ethics might be diametrically in opposition. How do you feel about that? I mean it is obvious you don’t think they are self-exclusionary.[/B][/I]






If you listen to BM, but you don’t know what phase the moon is in, or what wild flowers are blooming then you have failed. It is shocking to me that one could be seriously interested in Black Metal and not be deeply committed to radical ecology. Is BM supposed to be about concrete high rises, suburbs, television, an easy modern existence with access to 4-tracks and corpse paint from the local hot topic? No! The music is about wild forests, unfettered rivers, nature: furious and vengeful.








I think they have a point.[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, "radical ecology", black metal is about hatred , killing jews/christians, destruction and evil, not preserving nature. **** off to hippie homosexual metalheads.


Edit: Alcohol is also a very important part

Edit 2: I wouldn't call WITTR a gimmick band because I believe they really are retarded hippie feminists. Actually im pretty sure they admitted to that.

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=The Gates Of Heaven;16125269]I'm already a Professor in Extreme Metal Eliteness and have since contributed an incredibly amount of invaluable information to the course.[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, so your major probably isn't as elite as mine. I figured. Kiss my Jewish ***.

masscows 03-19-2008 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16124736]If that was true they wouldn't spend all of their time telling everyone about it. Bands that actually believe in what they preach don't spend all of their career bitching about it and attracting attention for everyone. They claim to be complete naturalists, and yet they don't address the fact that they travel in cars, have a Myspace that promotes their music to a national audience, have barcodes on their cds, and have frequent use to a computer.

Using music as a vehicle to promote your ideologies and thoughts is fine, but it's ALL they talk about. They're more of a novelty / gimmick than a black metal band.[/QUOTE]

I know this post is old but

Have you ever met a hippie before? Seriously.

Eliminator 03-19-2008 02:28 PM

they have addressed that stuff in interviews before, but they basically say "CONTRADICTIONS AND HYPOCRISY ARE LIKE IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID, MUCH LIKE OUR NATURAL PAGAN GOD OF PIZZA - THE NOID"

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 03-19-2008 02:30 PM

Lets radically save the environment by producing 1000's of shitty CDs and LPs that will more than likely end up populating a landfill once people realize how retarded they are.

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Eliminator;16127039]they have addressed that stuff in interviews before, but they basically say "CONTRADICTIONS AND HYPOCRISY ARE LIKE IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID, MUCH LIKE OUR NATURAL PAGAN GOD OF PIZZA - THE NOID"[/QUOTE]

lol

Everyone is hypocritical to some extent though

Eliminator 03-19-2008 02:37 PM

yep

but still it makes their whole self-mythologizing even lulzier

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 02:48 PM

self-mythologizing is cool

I'm Odin bitches

TojesDolan 03-19-2008 03:00 PM

*oden

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 03:01 PM

* Óðinn

tbh

Get it right EllenDolan

combustion07 03-19-2008 03:15 PM

What do you guys think of the band Pest?

Stormrider 03-19-2008 03:18 PM

Hail the Black Metal Wolves of Belial?

Man, haven't listened to that in ages. It was pretty decent, but I don't remember it being anything too special.

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF;16126861]Hahahaha, "radical ecology", black metal is about hatred , killing jews/christians, destruction and evil, not preserving nature. **** off to hippie homosexual metalheads.
[/QUOTE]

wtf

black metal is constantly about nature, especially Norwegian black metal. observe

[url]http://www.google.com/search?q=site:darklyrics.com+skog+OR+skogen&start=20[/url]

DERSIEGDERKRIEGDERKAMPF 03-19-2008 03:37 PM

...If you can't see the difference between the lyrics of one Darkthrone song and the fullblown faggotry of WITTR then you need help.

Also, some black metal having some nature themes isnt a massive issue but to claim radical ecology = black metal is absurd.

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 03:42 PM

word

a bunch of Darkthrone songs are about nature though

I think excess industrial and urban development would ruin the landscapes that are the background to a lot of these songs

Tyler 03-19-2008 03:49 PM

4. No mystical hippy forest elf outer space magical folk "black" metal.

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16127386]4. No mystical hippy forest elf outer space magical folk "black" metal.[/QUOTE]

I like Bal-Sagoth

Nostalgia 03-19-2008 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;16127022]I know this post is old but

Have you ever met a hippie before? Seriously.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? I didn't even mention the word hippies.

1338 h4x0r 03-19-2008 03:55 PM

yeah hippies are pretty gay tbh

masscows 03-19-2008 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16127413]What are you talking about? I didn't even mention the word hippies.[/QUOTE][quote]Using music as a vehicle to promote your ideologies and thoughts is fine, but it's ALL they talk about.[/quote]see?

RetiredAt21 03-19-2008 04:33 PM

Hippies definitely are gay.

Nostalgia 03-19-2008 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;16127607]see?[/QUOTE]

What does that have to do with hippies, you ****ing retard?

masscows 03-19-2008 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;16127642]What does that have to do with hippies, you ****ing retard?[/QUOTE]

Wow, I thought you were supposed to be smart or something

[quote]Using music as a vehicle to promote your ideologies and thoughts is fine, but it's ALL they [b](HIPPIES)[/b] talk about.[/quote]It's self-evident, I didn't think I had to explain it

Nostalgia 03-19-2008 08:13 PM

What? I meant it was all Wolves in the Throne Room talk about. I never once implied[I] anything[/I] about hippies.


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